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Yes, that is exactly what I think, you pompous ass. Maybe your story is true and maybe it isn't. I will never be convinced that the whole lot of you does not use birth control and has never had an abortion. Think about it. It doesn't even make sense.
Why does it not make sense that pro-lifers don't get abortions? Are you so hypocritical yourself you can't imagine others aren't, or something?
There are people in this world who do walk the walk. They follow their morals and live by them as much as humanly possible.
And why do you assume pro-lifers don't use birth control? Most people use birth control. Only a small fraction of pro-lifers don't.
Being pro-life means not aborting a child in the womb. It has nothing to do with using the Pill. Don't conflate the two. The morality of the Pill is a separate issue.
Pro-lifers are a slim majority. People who think the Pill is immoral are a very tiny minority.
If you go back a few pages, you will find a very long post by me asking my fellow pro-lifers to give serious consideration to coming up with a plan to increase the use of the Pill to cut down on the number of abortions. You will also find some very longs posts by me providing evidence that the number of abortions would be virtually unchanged if Roe v. Wade were overturned and it is therefore a good idea to direct our energies to actually doing something which will actually decrease the number of abortions, and the best way to do that is to increase birth control usage.
I strongly believe pro-lifers and pro-choicers can find middle ground here. I believe the overly emotional and the fanatical on both sides have dominated the abortion issue for way, way too long.
Is THAT pompous enough for you?
No. For the last time, do you expect anybody to believe that you and your fellow pompous asses have NEVER had an abortion?? That is what you would like us to think, and it's crap.
Do you have a link for this? It sounds like pure BS.I found out something quite interesting today. In order to provide all this free birth control insurance companies will no longer provide coverage to screen for testicular cancer nor ovarian cancer.
Someone has to pay for all this health care.
Yes, the stats DO support what I said, but it's hard to speak to that as you simply say that they don't, then go on to talk about other things that in no way support your statement that the stats on increased abortion/teen pregnancy etc. are bogus.
No, that is a LOGICAL FALLACY. Birth control is available, and free, and has been increasingly so for decades...and yet the abortion rate has climbed exponentially all through that time period.
Please explain how increased access to birth control reduces abortion, when we have the numbers that prove otherwise. THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.
Birth control fails, a LOT. And women are lulled into a false sense of security, which means they are more careless, because they think that they won't get pregnant. So they engage in riskier behavior than they would WITHOUT the safety net of birth control. The result is more women who absolutely DON'T want children have sex based on the fact that they think there's no chance they'll get pregnant...and then when they DO get pregnant, they hustle off to the clinic for an abortion.
And the whole concept of "overpopulation" is also a logical fallacy. We aren't overpopulated. We have issues with food distribution and tyrannical regimes, and oppression of nomadic people...but that's NOT the same as "overpopulation". Those populations are dying out because they are being encouraged to have fewer children...yet they continue to die at an accelerated rate. It's eugenics, and genocide besides. It's not based upon concern for those people, nor is it based upon concern for children. Children don't "benefit" from abortion, that's idiotic. And by "overpopulation" you just mean "too many of a particular group of people". Call it what it is.
No, that is a LOGICAL FALLACY. Birth control is available, and free, and has been increasingly so for decades...and yet the abortion rate has climbed exponentially all through that time period.
Please explain how increased access to birth control reduces abortion, when we have the numbers that prove otherwise.
Birth control fails, a LOT.
Obviously, you didn't notice the multiple links I put up where guttmacher's and CDC admitted that abortions are INCREDIBLY underreported and inaccurate.
Go back and catch up now.
The usefulness of the NSFG remains extremely limited for analyses involving unintended pregnancy and abortion
Obviously, you didn't notice the multiple links I put up where guttmacher's and CDC admitted that abortions are INCREDIBLY underreported and inaccurate.
Go back and catch up now.
The public cost of unintended pregnancy is estimated to be about 11 billion dollars per year in short term medical costs.[11] This includes costs of births, one year of infant medical care and costs of fetal loss.[11] Preventing unintended pregnancy would save the public over 5 billion dollars per year in short term medical costs.[11] Savings in long term costs and in other areas would be much larger.[11] By another estimate, the direct medical costs of unintended pregnancies, not including infant medical care, was $5 billion in 2002.[27]
Of the 800,000 teen pregnancies per year,[28] over 80% were unintended in 2001.[1] One-third of teen pregnancies result in abortion.[28] In 2002, about 9% of women at risk for unintended pregnancy were teenagers,[20] but about 20% of the unintended pregnancies in the United States are to teenagers.[29] A somewhat larger proportion of unintended births are reported as mistimed, rather than unwanted, for teens compared to women in general (79% mistimed for teens vs. 69% among all women in 1998).[30]
In the US it is estimated that 52% of unintended pregnancies result from couples not using contraception in the month the woman got pregnant, and 43% result from inconsistent or incorrect contraceptive use; only 5% result from contraceptive failure, according to a report from the Guttmacher Institute.[1] Contraceptive use saved an estimated $19 billion in direct medical costs from unintended pregnancies in 2002.[27]
In 2006, publicly funded family planning services (Title X, medicaid, and state funds) helped women avoid 1.94 million unintended pregnancies, thus preventing about 860,000 unintended births and 810,000 abortions.[31] Without publicly funded family planning services, the number of unintended pregnancies and abortions in the United States would be nearly two-thirds higher among women overall and among teens; the number of unintended pregnancies among poor women would nearly double[31] The services provided at publicly funded clinics saved the federal and state governments an estimated $5.1 billion in 2008 in short term medical costs.[31] Nationally, every $1.00 invested in helping women avoid unintended pregnancy saved $3.74 in Medicaid expenditures that otherwise would have been needed.[31]
Reducing unintended pregnancy in the United States would be particularly desirable since abortion is such a politically divisive issue.[3]
Rape
A longitudinal study in 1996 of over 4000 women in the United States followed for 3 years found that the rape-related pregnancy rate was 5.0% among victims aged 1245 years. Applying that rate to rapes committed in the United States would indicate that there are over 32,000 pregnancies in the United States as a result of rape each year.[32]
Unintended pregnancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Actually I did.Cripes. This is what is so frustrating...you haven't been using guttmacher stats, I don't think you linked anything at all...
In 1996, a total of 1,221,585 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC, representing a slight increase of 0.9% from the number reported for 1995 (6 ) (Table 1).
From 1970 through 1982, the reported number of legal abortions in the United States
increased every year (Table 2; Figure 1); the largest percentage increase occurred from
1970 to 1971. From 1976 through 1982, the annual increase declined and reached a
low of 0.2% during 1980–1981 and during 1981–1982. From 1983 through 1990, the
number of abortions increased again, although moderately (£5% from year to year).
However, despite the slight increase in the number of abortions in 1996 compared
with 1995, during 1990–1995, the annual number of abortions decreased each year.
Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.
Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.
Actually I did.Cripes. This is what is so frustrating...you haven't been using guttmacher stats, I don't think you linked anything at all...
You have absolutely no evidence of exponential growth in the number of abortions. If you did, you would quote the proof.
Abortions have been flat for quite some time. I provided the link, and your own link from Guttmacher stated the exact same thing.
So as you say, "Go back and catch up now."
Here is the link once again: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss4804.pdf
In 1996, a total of 1,221,585 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC, representing a slight increase of 0.9% from the number reported for 1995 (6 ) (Table 1).
From 1970 through 1982, the reported number of legal abortions in the United States
increased every year (Table 2; Figure 1); the largest percentage increase occurred from
1970 to 1971. From 1976 through 1982, the annual increase declined and reached a
low of 0.2% during 19801981 and during 19811982. From 1983 through 1990, the
number of abortions increased again, although moderately (£5% from year to year).
However, despite the slight increase in the number of abortions in 1996 compared
with 1995, during 19901995, the annual number of abortions decreased each year.
Here is a Guttmacher count of abortions: Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States
You can see the graph at the very beginning.
Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.
Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.
