The Great Thanksgiving Hoax!

[Reasoning]

Source:
The Great Thanksgiving Hoax - Richard J. Maybury - Mises Daily

The Great Thanksgiving Hoax

Each year at this time school children all over America are taught the official Thanksgiving story, and newspapers, radio, TV, and magazines devote vast amounts of time and space to it. It is all very colorful and fascinating.

It is also very deceiving. This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving's real meaning.
The official story has the pilgrims boarding the Mayflower, coming to America and establishing the Plymouth colony in the winter of 1620-21. This first winter is hard, and half the colonists die. But the survivors are hard working and tenacious, and they learn new farming techniques from the Indians. The harvest of 1621 is bountiful. The Pilgrims hold a celebration, and give thanks to God. They are grateful for the wonderful new abundant land He has given them.

The official story then has the Pilgrims living more or less happily ever after, each year repeating the first Thanksgiving. Other early colonies also have hard times at first, but they soon prosper and adopt the annual tradition of giving thanks for this prosperous new land called America.
The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hardworking or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

 

[rightwinger]

Yea...go ahead and ruin Thanksgiving


Next you are going to tell us Santa doesn't really bring toys on Christmas

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yea...go ahead and ruin Thanksgiving


Next you are going to tell us Santa doesn't really bring toys on Christmas

What "Santa" needs to BRING, is.....a goddamned HISTORY-book......

.....for PORKY LIMBAUGH!!!!

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[loosecannon]

This "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving.

Bullshit. It takes years to establish a self sufficiency platform based on agriculture if you have to do it from scratch. It is safe to assume that ALL of the colonists would have died within the first year had they not shared resources.

And any exception to that would have been via internecine, beggar thy neighbor opportunism (theft, cannibalism etc).

While Thankgiving, the official story, may indeed be a crock, your article is even more deceptive and equally false.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

This "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving.

Bullshit. It takes years to establish a self sufficiency platform based on agriculture if you have to do it from scratch. It is safe to assume that ALL of the colonists would have died within the first year had they not shared resources.

And any exception to that would have been via internecine, beggar thy neighbor opportunism (theft, cannibalism etc).

While Thankgiving, the official story, may indeed be a crock, your article is even more deceptive and equally false.

....And, leave it up to some White-Wing politico-nutjob (from Porky Limbaugh's home-state), to spin such horseshit.




[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74xujNVrCp4[/ame]​

 

[Middleman]

And then, the White men used the profits they made to drive the Red Man westward, grasping more land to support their expanding, vibrant economy.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Source:
The Great Thanksgiving Hoax - Richard J. Maybury - Mises Daily

The Great Thanksgiving Hoax

Each year at this time school children all over America are taught the official Thanksgiving story, and newspapers, radio, TV, and magazines devote vast amounts of time and space to it. It is all very colorful and fascinating.

It is also very deceiving. This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving's real meaning.
The official story has the pilgrims boarding the Mayflower, coming to America and establishing the Plymouth colony in the winter of 1620-21. This first winter is hard, and half the colonists die. But the survivors are hard working and tenacious, and they learn new farming techniques from the Indians. The harvest of 1621 is bountiful. The Pilgrims hold a celebration, and give thanks to God. They are grateful for the wonderful new abundant land He has given them.

The official story then has the Pilgrims living more or less happily ever after, each year repeating the first Thanksgiving. Other early colonies also have hard times at first, but they soon prosper and adopt the annual tradition of giving thanks for this prosperous new land called America.
The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hardworking or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

In his 'History of Plymouth Plantation,' the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years, because they refused to work in the fields. They preferred instead to steal food. He says the colony was riddled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." The crops were small because "much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable."

In the harvest feasts of 1621 and 1622, "all had their hungry bellies filled," but only briefly. The prevailing condition during those years was not the abundance the official story claims, it was famine and death. The first "Thanksgiving" was not so much a celebration as it was the last meal of condemned men.

But in subsequent years something changes. The harvest of 1623 was different. Suddenly, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty," Bradford wrote, "and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God." Thereafter, he wrote, "any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day." In fact, in 1624, so much food was produced that the colonists were able to begin exporting corn.

What happened?

After the poor harvest of 1622, writes Bradford, "they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop." They began to question their form of economic organization.
This had required that "all profits & benefits that are got by trade, working, fishing, or any other means" were to be placed in the common stock of the colony, and that, "all such persons as are of this colony, are to have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock." A person was to put into the common stock all he could, and take out only what he needed.

This "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving. Bradford writes that "young men that are most able and fit for labor and service" complained about being forced to "spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and children." Also, "the strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes, than he that was weak." So the young and strong refused to work and the total amount of food produced was never adequate.

To rectify this situation, in 1623 Bradford abolished socialism. He gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit. In other words, he replaced socialism with a free market, and that was the end of famines.
Many early groups of colonists set up socialist states, all with the same terrible results. At Jamestown, established in 1607, out of every shipload of settlers that arrived, less than half would survive their first twelve months in America. Most of the work was being done by only one-fifth of the men, the other four-fifths choosing to be parasites. In the winter of 1609-10, called "The Starving Time," the population fell from five-hundred to sixty.
Then the Jamestown colony was converted to a free market, and the results were every bit as dramatic as those at Plymouth. In 1614, Colony Secretary Ralph Hamor wrote that after the switch there was "plenty of food, which every man by his own industry may easily and doth procure." He said that when the socialist system had prevailed, "we reaped not so much corn from the labors of thirty men as three men have done for themselves now."

Before these free markets were established, the colonists had nothing for which to be thankful. They were in the same situation as Ethiopians are today, and for the same reasons. But after free markets were established, the resulting abundance was so dramatic that the annual Thanksgiving celebrations became common throughout the colonies, and in 1863, Thanksgiving became a national holiday.

Thus the real reason for Thanksgiving, deleted from the official story, is: Socialism does not work; the one and only source of abundance is free markets, and we thank God we live in a country where we can have them.

Thank you for posting that bit of history about the early attempts...and failures....to establish socialist/communist communities.....something which is obviously not taught these day in the public schools.....

For some reason leftie-supporting idiots in this country complain about free market capitalism in America....but they never leave America to go live the exquisite lifestyles to be found in those firmly-established socialist/communist countries.....like say Cuba, Venezuela, or North Korea....

 

[Mr. Shaman]

And then, the White men used the profits they made to drive the Red Man westward, grasping more land to support their expanding, vibrant economy.

....Scattering some o' that, there Christian-love, along-the-way!!!!!

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[ScreamingEagle]

And then, the White men used the profits they made to drive the Red Man westward, grasping more land to support their expanding, vibrant economy.

....Scattering some o' that, there Christian-love, along-the-way!!!!!

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[loosecannon]

And then, the White men used the profits they made to drive the Red Man westward, grasping more land to support their expanding, vibrant economy.

IOW genocide. In fact the greatest genocide in human history, far surpassing the holocaust. You must be proud.

 

[uscitizen]

And then, the White men used the profits they made to drive the Red Man westward, grasping more land to support their expanding, vibrant economy.

....Scattering some o' that, there Christian-love, along-the-way!!!!!

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Yep and made those heathen Hawians wear clothes and killed off most of them with their white man diseases.

 

[Misty]

It was kill or be killed.

Native Americans have their revenge. They are fat drunk and rich now. And the tobacco they gave us has killed more people.

 

[uscitizen]

It was kill or be killed.

Native Americans have their revenge. They are fat drunk and rich now. And the tobacco they gave us has killed more people.

It became kill or be killed for the indians.
The Cherokee were more civilized then the europeans

 

[shintao]

This "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving.

Bullshit. It takes years to establish a self sufficiency platform based on agriculture if you have to do it from scratch. It is safe to assume that ALL of the colonists would have died within the first year had they not shared resources.

And any exception to that would have been via internecine, beggar thy neighbor opportunism (theft, cannibalism etc).

While Thankgiving, the official story, may indeed be a crock, your article is even more deceptive and equally false.

....And, leave it up to some White-Wing politico-nutjob (from Porky Limbaugh's home-state), to spin such horseshit.




[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74xujNVrCp4[/ame]​

He looks evil. I can see his head rising up from a steaming pile of road apples.

 

[GHook93]

It was kill or be killed.

Native Americans have their revenge. They are fat drunk and rich now. And the tobacco they gave us has killed more people.

It became kill or be killed for the indians.
The Cherokee were more civilized then the europeans

Leave then! Go to another country! You seem to hate us so much, why not man up and leave you pathetic pussy!

 

[uscitizen]

It was kill or be killed.

Native Americans have their revenge. They are fat drunk and rich now. And the tobacco they gave us has killed more people.

It became kill or be killed for the indians.
The Cherokee were more civilized then the europeans

Leave then! Go to another country! You seem to hate us so much, why not man up and leave you pathetic pussy!

Some of my ancestors were Cherokee, you leave.

 

[uscitizen]

The pilgrims came here fleeing organized religion so they could organize their own religion.

 

[AmericanFirst]

This "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving.

Bullshit. It takes years to establish a self sufficiency platform based on agriculture if you have to do it from scratch. It is safe to assume that ALL of the colonists would have died within the first year had they not shared resources.

And any exception to that would have been via internecine, beggar thy neighbor opportunism (theft, cannibalism etc).

While Thankgiving, the official story, may indeed be a crock, your article is even more deceptive and equally false.

....And, leave it up to some White-Wing politico-nutjob (from Porky Limbaugh's home-state), to spin such horseshit.




[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74xujNVrCp4[/ame]​

Racist!!! Just because you are a socialist dimwit doesn;t mean you can call us white wingers.

 

[GHook93]

It became kill or be killed for the indians.
The Cherokee were more civilized then the europeans

Leave then! Go to another country! You seem to hate us so much, why not man up and leave you pathetic pussy!

Some of my ancestors were Cherokee, you leave.

America is not the Indian's country, nor has it ever been! One of the great lies of the Western Hemisphere! Again as a shit-hole anti-american, leave the country if you hate it so much! It will never be the socialist paradise a simpleton lazy freeloader like yourself wants it to be!