The GOP's imaginary Europe.

Oh well if Krugman says it then it must be true. Nice try. lol! Krugman is a hysterical Leftist nutter. You ever see that guy? Man,what a weird little weasel. Krugman does not speak for the GOP,or for any rational & sane Americans. End of story.
 
I'm 100% convinced the GOPtards that talk about "socialist" Europe know nothing about Europe. I come there every year and go to Paris and then to Belgium and Luxemborg and none of these countries are socialist regimes mired in debt.




Then you havn't opened your eyes darling. I spend three months of the year in Europe and Eastern Europe. Try leaving the nightclubs and the beaches and head out into the countryside and talk to the people.
 
Why would a chase an ambulance?


Tapping his feet, waiting for the next tragedy so he can be the first to blame it on right wing rhetoric without a shred of fact or evidence. The last one only took him two hours, he's going for 90 minutes next time......

Well..

If the reality of the situation is a "shred of evidence" then you could be right.

But of course..you're not.

The economic meltdown was very real.

Krugman was wrong about the Arizona shooting, as he has been about many other things and the fact that another left wing kook like you agrees with him here, well.......
 
David Cameron is doing the right thing.
He has opted for a sharp budget cut.
Extreme solutions are always the Best, but not the most popular in-front of the elector.

In 2001, Turkey also had its banking crisis.
Major banks crashed, when Public debt was 78.9 % to GDP.
http://www.hazine.gov.tr/irj/go/km/...II- Kamu Borc Yonetimi/kamu borc yonetimi.xls

We did sharp budget cuts, delayed major military programs, fired public workers and such things.
In 2010 Public debt stands at 42.3% of GDP
Turkey Converging With BRICs on Cheapest to China Default Swaps - Bloomberg

And the economy has more then tripled since then.
At beginning of next decade UK will bounce back.
Maybe even earlier.
They do it right.

The USA also needs to do the same, not just cut deficits to achieve a balanced budget, but a clear path to decrease debt levels.
Otherwise the USA will sooner or later crash completely.
 
Bass...WTF are you talking about? :cuckoo:

France’s public debt has risen to close to 83 percent of the country’s GDP, France's statistics body says, one day after the government announced cuts in spending to reign in overspending.
France's public debt hits new high | RFI

BRUSSELS—Belgium's borrowing costs are rising as high levels of public debt, the continuing political crisis and bailouts for euro-zone peers make investors nervous.

Belgian public debt will reach 100.2% of gross domestic product this year, according to the International Monetary Fund, the third highest level in the common-currency bloc after Greece and Italy.
Euro-Zone Crisis: Belgium's Debt Prompts Concerns - WSJ.com


Strong Demand

In 2010, France issued 40 billion euros of debt with maturities between 15 years and 50 years, about 21 percent of total issuance, compared with 18 percent in 2009 and 10 percent in 2008.

“Since the spring of 2009, we have seen strong demand for our long and ultra-long bonds,” Mills said. “We’ll study the opportunity to introduce a new long bond, probably at the end of 2011.”

France bought back 22.7 billion euros of debt last year, including 18.2 billion euros of debt maturing in 2011 and 4.5 billion euros of debt maturing in 2012.

The French budget deficit is forecast to be 91.6 billion euros next year, equivalent to about 6 percent of gross domestic product, down from 149.7 billion euros, or 7.5 percent of GDP, in 2010.

France Trims 2011 Debt Sale Plan, Maturity Lengthens - Businessweek
We're talking total debt

France's public debt reached 1.591 trillion euros (2.172 trillion U.S. dollars) in the second quarter, an increase of 56 billion euros (76.46 billion dollars) compared to the previous quarter, official figures showed Thursday.
France's debt up by 56 billion euros in second quarter

And?

We just came out of a world wide banking collapse.

Because of time honored Conservative bait and switch.

Things are getting better.

Time to update yourself about France..
 
Tapping his feet, waiting for the next tragedy so he can be the first to blame it on right wing rhetoric without a shred of fact or evidence. The last one only took him two hours, he's going for 90 minutes next time......

Well..

If the reality of the situation is a "shred of evidence" then you could be right.

But of course..you're not.

The economic meltdown was very real.

Krugman was wrong about the Arizona shooting, as he has been about many other things and the fact that another left wing kook like you agrees with him here, well.......

Okay..I'll bite.

Feel free to post where he was "wrong".
 
Oh well if Krugman says it then it must be true. Nice try. lol! Krugman is a hysterical Leftist nutter. You ever see that guy? Man,what a weird little weasel. Krugman does not speak for the GOP,or for any rational & sane Americans. End of story.

I've seen him.

He's terrible on tv.

I ain't looking for him to "entertain" me.

I am looking for lucid economic insight.
 
We're talking total debt

France's public debt reached 1.591 trillion euros (2.172 trillion U.S. dollars) in the second quarter, an increase of 56 billion euros (76.46 billion dollars) compared to the previous quarter, official figures showed Thursday.
France's debt up by 56 billion euros in second quarter

And?

We just came out of a world wide banking collapse.

Because of time honored Conservative bait and switch.

Things are getting better.

Time to update yourself about France..

It is what it is, Sallow. Bass comes on this thread and stating those countries aren't mired in debt....well I proved him wrong....that's the debate.
 
We're talking total debt

France's public debt reached 1.591 trillion euros (2.172 trillion U.S. dollars) in the second quarter, an increase of 56 billion euros (76.46 billion dollars) compared to the previous quarter, official figures showed Thursday.
France's debt up by 56 billion euros in second quarter

And?

We just came out of a world wide banking collapse.

Because of time honored Conservative bait and switch.

Things are getting better.

Time to update yourself about France..

It is what it is, Sallow. Bass comes on this thread and stating those countries aren't mired in debt....well I proved him wrong....that's the debate.

That your debate with Bass.

Not with me.

Do keep up.
 
Well..

If the reality of the situation is a "shred of evidence" then you could be right.

But of course..you're not.

The economic meltdown was very real.

Krugman was wrong about the Arizona shooting, as he has been about many other things and the fact that another left wing kook like you agrees with him here, well.......

Okay..I'll bite.

Feel free to post where he was "wrong".

Regarding the Arizona shooting:

"We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. "

Odds are, he's wrong.......
 
And?

We just came out of a world wide banking collapse.

Because of time honored Conservative bait and switch.

Things are getting better.

Time to update yourself about France..

It is what it is, Sallow. Bass comes on this thread and stating those countries aren't mired in debt....well I proved him wrong....that's the debate.

That your debate with Bass.

Not with me.

Do keep up.

You wanted to debate the french budget deficit, and I wanted to debate the total public deficit. :eusa_whistle:
 
Bass...WTF are you talking about? :cuckoo:

France’s public debt has risen to close to 83 percent of the country’s GDP, France's statistics body says, one day after the government announced cuts in spending to reign in overspending.
France's public debt hits new high | RFI

BRUSSELS—Belgium's borrowing costs are rising as high levels of public debt, the continuing political crisis and bailouts for euro-zone peers make investors nervous.

Belgian public debt will reach 100.2% of gross domestic product this year, according to the International Monetary Fund, the third highest level in the common-currency bloc after Greece and Italy.
Euro-Zone Crisis: Belgium's Debt Prompts Concerns - WSJ.com

Have you actually traveled to those countries, Meister? Until you have, you don't know what you're talking about. Bass has actually been physically present within their borders, so he/she/it knows everything there is to know about those countries. :eusa_shhh:

I know, I know...my bad

:eusa_hand:

Much like South America and Africa, Europe obviously has no problems that haven't had their root cause in the USA.

Chris Matthews made that clear along with explaining that the Panama Canal goes through Egypt.
 
I'm 100% convinced the GOPtards that talk about "socialist" Europe know nothing about Europe. I come there every year and go to Paris and then to Belgium and Luxemborg and none of these countries are socialist regimes mired in debt.
I worked in Belgium a year and a half. The manager of the office I was in had to go move his car in the middle of the day because the government went through the parking lot and tracked how long cars were parked there. If you worked more then the government allotted hours, they came to your office and warned you. Not socialist? You're dreaming...
 
I'm 100% convinced the GOPtards that talk about "socialist" Europe know nothing about Europe. I come there every year and go to Paris and then to Belgium and Luxemborg and none of these countries are socialist regimes mired in debt.
I worked in Belgium a year and a half. The manager of the office I was in had to go move his car in the middle of the day because the government went through the parking lot and tracked how long cars were parked there. If you worked more then the government allotted hours, they came to your office and warned you. Not socialist? You're dreaming...

Considering Bass doesnt have a good grip of what's happening in his own country, I wouldnt be surprised if he was wrong about over there as well.

Cali girl, you're in Europe, what would you say about this?
 
And?

We just came out of a world wide banking collapse.

Because of time honored Conservative bait and switch.

Things are getting better.

Time to update yourself about France..

It is what it is, Sallow. Bass comes on this thread and stating those countries aren't mired in debt....well I proved him wrong....that's the debate.

That your debate with Bass.

Not with me.

Do keep up.




Well let's see here. My wife is French. Her family has property near Millau, her grandparents are buried in Joigny, her uncle Mimi still lives in the Loire Valley, her cousin Bridgit is based out of Toulon and her other cousin is principle photographer for a major museum (don't want to make it too easy to track us down don't you know) so that probably makes me the France expert based on the criteria you all adopt. France is mired in debt and is going down very fast. They have one of the most liberal retirement policies on the planet and it is strangling them. They are having mass riots every few years and will continue to do so till there is another revolution in all probability.

I suggest you keep up better.
 
Krugman was wrong about the Arizona shooting, as he has been about many other things and the fact that another left wing kook like you agrees with him here, well.......

Okay..I'll bite.

Feel free to post where he was "wrong".

Regarding the Arizona shooting:

"We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. "

Odds are, he's wrong.......

First off..quoting without context is pretty weak.

You should be including a link with your quote.
 
It is what it is, Sallow. Bass comes on this thread and stating those countries aren't mired in debt....well I proved him wrong....that's the debate.

That your debate with Bass.

Not with me.

Do keep up.




Well let's see here. My wife is French. Her family has property near Millau, her grandparents are buried in Joigny, her uncle Mimi still lives in the Loire Valley, her cousin Bridgit is based out of Toulon and her other cousin is principle photographer for a major museum (don't want to make it too easy to track us down don't you know) so that probably makes me the France expert based on the criteria you all adopt. France is mired in debt and is going down very fast. They have one of the most liberal retirement policies on the planet and it is strangling them. They are having mass riots every few years and will continue to do so till there is another revolution in all probability.

I suggest you keep up better.

That's nice.

The "Chicken Little" perspective doesn't get any newer with each iteration.

But it makes for a good panic story.
 
Wait a minute, first Obama tells us how great China is in the SOU address and now left wing op-ed people are telling us how great Europe is? Anybody see a pattern to this? Now the left wingers on the panel are telling us that the republican majority in congress is at fault before they even propose a single bill? You lefties are worse than pathetic.
 

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