The GOP CON JOBS ACT!

[Decepticon]

They propose tax cuts for small businesses and deregulation.

The problem with our economy isn't that businesses need breaks to hire people or that they're mired in red tape. Businesses need CUSTOMERS! They need DEMAND! The middle class doesn't have ANY MONEY TO SPARE, because it's been vampired out of them by insurance companies, phone companies, oil companies, speculators etc. et. al.

You just DON'T GET IT do you guys?
At some point, you're going to have to take care of the vast majority of the people at the small expense of the very rich. Not EVERY problem's solution is handing stuff over to them.

 

[DiamondDave]

1) People are responsible for themselves... YOU just don't get it
2) Keeping more of what you EARN is not "handing stuff over"
3) Confiscating, skimming off as it goes thru numerous government levels and agencies, and handing back out is not creating demand

idiot

 

[Decepticon]

1) People are responsible for themselves... YOU just don't get it
2) Keeping more of what you EARN is not "handing stuff over"
3) Confiscating, skimming off as it goes thru numerous government levels and agencies, and handing back out is not creating demand

idiot

Yes people ARE responsible for themselves and in this form of government, they can ask their representatives to help them POOL their resources so EVERYONE has a chance at success, not just the uber-rich. Working together works BETTER than working alone. Did it EVER occur to you that a group of people can accomplish something bigger by WORKING TOGETHER than they could working alone? That's pretty much the story of CIVILIZATION, but that seems to have eluded the likes of you.

Keeping more of what you earn is a matter of PUBLIC POLICY. Not some "right" you make up out of thin air. In case you didn't notice, we live in a representative democracy/republic. THAT means that WE THE PEOPLE DECIDE what rate you are taxed at. NOT YOU! GOT IT?
Tell me, how did the middle class do when top tax rates were over 90% under that Pinko Commie Eisenhower? Why golly, HIGH top tax rates (over 90% compared with 35% today) and the BIGGEST GROWTH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD???

Tell me, how have wages done since the Reagan Revolution and tax cuts for the rich? Oh, STAGNATED!

High top tax rates do not exclude middle income upward mobility.
Low top tax rates do NOT coincide with middle income upward mobility.
While tax rates may not be entirely causal to middle income mobility, the CLEAR EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE suggests that low top tax rates are associated with low mobility while high top tax rates are associated with high mobility.

Come back when you have some evidence that the Bush tax cuts created jobs or demand for anything.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

1) People are responsible for themselves... YOU just don't get it
2) Keeping more of what you EARN is not "handing stuff over"
3) Confiscating, skimming off as it goes thru numerous government levels and agencies, and handing back out is not creating demand

idiot

Yes people ARE responsible for themselves and in this form of government, they can ask their representatives to help them POOL their resources so EVERYONE has a chance at success, not just the uber-rich. Working together works BETTER than working alone. Did it EVER occur to you that a group of people can accomplish something bigger by WORKING TOGETHER than they could working alone? That's pretty much the story of CIVILIZATION, but that seems to have eluded the likes of you.

Keeping more of what you earn is a matter of PUBLIC POLICY. Not some "right" you make up out of thin air. In case you didn't notice, we live in a representative democracy/republic. THAT means that WE THE PEOPLE DECIDE what rate you are taxed at. NOT YOU! GOT IT?
Tell me, how did the middle class do when top tax rates were over 90% under that Pinko Commie Eisenhower? Why golly, HIGH top tax rates (over 90% compared with 35% today) and the BIGGEST GROWTH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD???

Tell me, how have wages done since the Reagan Revolution and tax cuts for the rich? Oh, STAGNATED!

High top tax rates do not exclude middle income upward mobility.
Low top tax rates do NOT coincide with middle income upward mobility.
While tax rates may not be entirely causal to middle income mobility, the CLEAR EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE suggests that low top tax rates are associated with low mobility while high top tax rates are associated with high mobility.

Come back when you have some evidence that the Bush tax cuts created jobs or demand for anything.

You sir, are an idiot.

You really think the government can better manage our money?

 

[Old Rocks]

Certainly not if the government is ran by the GOP. They proved that completely from 2001 to 2009.

 

[Oddball]

1) People are responsible for themselves... YOU just don't get it
2) Keeping more of what you EARN is not "handing stuff over"
3) Confiscating, skimming off as it goes thru numerous government levels and agencies, and handing back out is not creating demand

idiot

Yes people ARE responsible for themselves and in this form of government, they can ask their representatives to help them POOL their resources so EVERYONE has a chance at success, not just the uber-rich. Working together works BETTER than working alone. Did it EVER occur to you that a group of people can accomplish something bigger by WORKING TOGETHER than they could working alone? That's pretty much the story of CIVILIZATION, but that seems to have eluded the likes of you.

Keeping more of what you earn is a matter of PUBLIC POLICY. Not some "right" you make up out of thin air. In case you didn't notice, we live in a representative democracy/republic. THAT means that WE THE PEOPLE DECIDE what rate you are taxed at. NOT YOU! GOT IT?
Tell me, how did the middle class do when top tax rates were over 90% under that Pinko Commie Eisenhower? Why golly, HIGH top tax rates (over 90% compared with 35% today) and the BIGGEST GROWTH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD???

Tell me, how have wages done since the Reagan Revolution and tax cuts for the rich? Oh, STAGNATED!

High top tax rates do not exclude middle income upward mobility.
Low top tax rates do NOT coincide with middle income upward mobility.
While tax rates may not be entirely causal to middle income mobility, the CLEAR EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE suggests that low top tax rates are associated with low mobility while high top tax rates are associated with high mobility.

Come back when you have some evidence that the Bush tax cuts created jobs or demand for anything.

The post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy does not equal empirical evidence, fool.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Certainly not if the government is ran by the GOP. They proved that completely from 2001 to 2009.

Obama has added more to the National debt in his first 19 months than all presidents from Washington to Reagan combined you partisan hack!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

1) People are responsible for themselves... YOU just don't get it
2) Keeping more of what you EARN is not "handing stuff over"
3) Confiscating, skimming off as it goes thru numerous government levels and agencies, and handing back out is not creating demand

idiot

Yeah.....right......those were the problems.​

January 13, 2008​

"The recession-deniers were muzzled by a horrendous last two weeks of December, and the gloom-and-doomers are now out in force. Their key arguments:

* Plummeting housing will now drag down the rest of the economy.

*The "bad debt" problem is not just "sub-prime" folks who should never have have taken out mortgages in the first place. It includes credit card debt, "high quality" mortgages, car loans, and other leverage that have recently become a consumer way of life.

*Pressure on consumers is leading to a reduction in consumer spending (70% of economy), which, in turn, will lead to a reduction in spending by companies that sell stuff to consumers.

*The question now is not "will there be a recession?" but "how bad will it get?"

*The most optimistic forecasts in a NYT gloom-and-doom round-up are for three crappy quarters, regardless of what the Fed does. Less optimistic forecasts suggest that we are, well, screwed.

After blowing the last downturn, we've been worried this one since last summer (see below). We also suspect that, given the importance of housing to the economy and debt to consumer spending, the recession will be deeper and more prolonged than people think."

"U.S. Economy Screwed"​

 

[Decepticon]

1) People are responsible for themselves... YOU just don't get it
2) Keeping more of what you EARN is not "handing stuff over"
3) Confiscating, skimming off as it goes thru numerous government levels and agencies, and handing back out is not creating demand

idiot

Yes people ARE responsible for themselves and in this form of government, they can ask their representatives to help them POOL their resources so EVERYONE has a chance at success, not just the uber-rich. Working together works BETTER than working alone. Did it EVER occur to you that a group of people can accomplish something bigger by WORKING TOGETHER than they could working alone? That's pretty much the story of CIVILIZATION, but that seems to have eluded the likes of you.

Keeping more of what you earn is a matter of PUBLIC POLICY. Not some "right" you make up out of thin air. In case you didn't notice, we live in a representative democracy/republic. THAT means that WE THE PEOPLE DECIDE what rate you are taxed at. NOT YOU! GOT IT?
Tell me, how did the middle class do when top tax rates were over 90% under that Pinko Commie Eisenhower? Why golly, HIGH top tax rates (over 90% compared with 35% today) and the BIGGEST GROWTH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD???

Tell me, how have wages done since the Reagan Revolution and tax cuts for the rich? Oh, STAGNATED!

High top tax rates do not exclude middle income upward mobility.
Low top tax rates do NOT coincide with middle income upward mobility.
While tax rates may not be entirely causal to middle income mobility, the CLEAR EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE suggests that low top tax rates are associated with low mobility while high top tax rates are associated with high mobility.

Come back when you have some evidence that the Bush tax cuts created jobs or demand for anything.

The post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy does not equal empirical evidence, fool.

Top top tax rates do not EXCLUDE middle income upward mobility. The 50's - 80's proved that.
But when top tax rates were cut, what happened to upward middle income mobility?
Oh, it stagnated with wages.

And I hate to tell you this, but a LACK of correlatory evidence IS itself evidence of a LACK OF CORRELATION, isn't it?

If you don't piss on a plant and it grows then you start pissing on it and it STOPS growing, what would you do if you'd like it to grow again ?

Same thing here. If you had HIGH top tax rates and high middle income upward mobility and then you adopted LOW top tax rates and middle income upward mobility slowed, what would you do to have middle income upward mobility rise again?