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So your solution is to go back to the days of fear, intolerance, and ignorance, when problems were hidden away, when policy makers lied to the people and pretended everything was alright.The problem with today, is that we want to air out all our dirty laundry right into the streets, regardless of what message it sends to the children or what damaging effects it has on the betterement of society as a whole, because people are just selfish these days, and don't care what damage is caused by the airing out of our dirty laundry into the streets (creating this anything goes society as a result of, all in stead of daring it (the bad part) to come out into the open as it was back in those days.
We air our dirty laundry to the nation and the world today simply because we can. If the Internet were available in every home and business in the 50s, victims of race discrimination, sexual discrimination, child abuse, and spousal abuse, as well as every whistleblower, and victim of injustice would be telling their story to the world. Its not that people in the fifties had no voice; the problem was it was difficult to make their voice heard. In 1950, there were just over 2,000 newspapers. Today when you include all the online forums, blogs, and news outlets, there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of online publications all asking for input from readers. We have more laws to address injustice and more people interesting in seeing that those laws are enforced.Yes back then many things were hidden beneath the surface, in order to promote the better good out in the public as it was thought to be, but like you say, if one scratched beneath that surface, there was alot of work to be done for sure.Memories are always selective. We remember moments not days, events not history. The fifties laid the groundwork for the 60s and the tumultuous changes that followed.True there was death and desease that was not understood back then, but if you were healthy, and was well as a family in that time period, it was a peaceful and friendly time that was found amongst the majority within the white culture, and within the black culture as well, even so the whites came out of that time period looking to help the blacks more and more due their peacful and Godly upbringing from that period, because they (the whites) were God fearing well manored people the most of them (minus a few groups who were bad news), and be it so the good whites honored their wives, children, and friends with dignity and integridy the most of them. Their children became the next generation of folks, who wished no harm to anyone as a result of living in such a promoted peaceful white culture & lifestyle back then, in which was found amongst the majority of white families who lived in that time period.
Their children were those who went forth to right the wrongs of those small groups who did evil deeds amongst them back in the day, and sadly they tried to do it in the "white" peoples name, for whom these bad people went about doing wrong to others, against those whom were also Americans just as well in this nation (i.e. the black folk). If it were not for God being in many white peoples lives strongly back in the day, there is no telling what this nation would have become or looked like today for the black people. Thank God we have all found our way in this nation somehow, and have been abe to live in peace and in harmony the most of us for quite along time or period now together in America.
Uh, lets try and keep it that way ok ? God Bless America !
Race discrimination was not just acceptable, but the law in many parts of the country supported it. A mixed race couple was likely to find themselves ostracized from society. In the south, schools were segregated; the whites went to the good schools and the blacks went to the poor schools.
It was not just legal to pay a women half what you paid a man for the same work, it was to be expected. Barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen was the future for most women from poor families.
Sex was hidden away in the bedroom, something that wasn't discussed in public and certainly not in the classroom or in mixed company. Unwed mothers were scorned by society for their evil deeds. The fathers rarely shared the blame. Child and spouse abuse was common, but hidden away as was incest and homosexuality. In fact, the treatment for most of societies problems was to ignore them and pretend they didn't exist. For many people, the 50's were a happy time as long as you didn't scratch beneath the surface.
Such hypocrisies of the 50s were not to be ignored by the young people in the 60s. This brought about monumental changes, some good and some bad.
The problem with today, is that we want to air out all our dirty laundry right into the streets, regardless of what message it sends to the children or what damaging effects it has on the betterement of society as a whole, because people are just selfish these days, and don't care what damage is caused by the airing out of our dirty laundry into the streets (creating this anything goes society as a result of, all in stead of daring it (the bad part) to come out into the open as it was back in those days.
Yes racism needed desperately to come out, and to be worked on out in the open for sure, but the other (((((bad stuff))))) needed not to hitch a ride out of the closet, by clinging to the race issue as a disquise, yet sadly that is exactly what Mr. Bad Stuff had done (got a free ticket to ride).
So your solution is to go back to the days of fear, intolerance, and ignorance, when problems were hidden away, when policy makers lied to the people and pretended everything was alright.The problem with today, is that we want to air out all our dirty laundry right into the streets, regardless of what message it sends to the children or what damaging effects it has on the betterement of society as a whole, because people are just selfish these days, and don't care what damage is caused by the airing out of our dirty laundry into the streets (creating this anything goes society as a result of, all in stead of daring it (the bad part) to come out into the open as it was back in those days.
Trying to hide dirty laundry is much more harmful in the long run.
As an aside, people were just as selfish 50 years ago as they are today.
The devil will always be in the details, so all we can do is battle him until the end in everything we do, because our children and society depends on that battle for us to always find a way to win it.. There are so many justifications today of bad things and/or goings on in our society, and more and more we see people losing ground in these battles, because they are becoming weaker and weaker as we all go, but funny how in an age of so much communication and high technology flowing through in and through out, that the bad can still be hidden so well right out in the open these days, until the right moment allows it to become more powerful to then come out at strategic times to do the most damage among us all.We air our dirty laundry to the nation and the world today simply because we can. If the Internet were available in every home and business in the 50s, victims of race discrimination, sexual discrimination, child abuse, and spousal abuse, as well as every whistleblower, and victim of injustice would be telling their story to the world. Its not that people in the fifties had no voice; the problem was it was difficult to make their voice heard. In 1950, there were just over 2,000 newspapers. Today when you include all the online forums, blogs, and news outlets, there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of online publications all asking for input from readers. We have more laws to address injustice and more people interesting in seeing that those laws are enforced.Yes back then many things were hidden beneath the surface, in order to promote the better good out in the public as it was thought to be, but like you say, if one scratched beneath that surface, there was alot of work to be done for sure.Memories are always selective. We remember moments not days, events not history. The fifties laid the groundwork for the 60s and the tumultuous changes that followed.
Race discrimination was not just acceptable, but the law in many parts of the country supported it. A mixed race couple was likely to find themselves ostracized from society. In the south, schools were segregated; the whites went to the good schools and the blacks went to the poor schools.
It was not just legal to pay a women half what you paid a man for the same work, it was to be expected. Barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen was the future for most women from poor families.
Sex was hidden away in the bedroom, something that wasn't discussed in public and certainly not in the classroom or in mixed company. Unwed mothers were scorned by society for their evil deeds. The fathers rarely shared the blame. Child and spouse abuse was common, but hidden away as was incest and homosexuality. In fact, the treatment for most of societies problems was to ignore them and pretend they didn't exist. For many people, the 50's were a happy time as long as you didn't scratch beneath the surface.
Such hypocrisies of the 50s were not to be ignored by the young people in the 60s. This brought about monumental changes, some good and some bad.
The problem with today, is that we want to air out all our dirty laundry right into the streets, regardless of what message it sends to the children or what damaging effects it has on the betterement of society as a whole, because people are just selfish these days, and don't care what damage is caused by the airing out of our dirty laundry into the streets (creating this anything goes society as a result of, all in stead of daring it (the bad part) to come out into the open as it was back in those days.
Yes racism needed desperately to come out, and to be worked on out in the open for sure, but the other (((((bad stuff))))) needed not to hitch a ride out of the closet, by clinging to the race issue as a disquise, yet sadly that is exactly what Mr. Bad Stuff had done (got a free ticket to ride).
By bad stuff in the 60s, I was referring to the assignations of our leaders, riots, and hatred. If you are saying having a more open society in regard to gays, addressing sexual discrimination, hate crimes, and abuse is bad stuff, I disagree.
The only problem was, that we threw out the good and the bad alike. There are alternatives to puritanism other than complete hedonism. There are alternatives to replacing hate with more hate. There are alternatives to simply trashing every tradition for the sake of change; change for its own sake is not always a good thing. No, the fifties weren't all good, not by a long shot, but they weren't totally evil, either. Patriotism is not necessarily jingoism, but still today, we don't appear able to tell the difference. If there's a lesson here, it's that you don't wantonly destroy a society's institutions because they aren't working right; you fix what's broken, and leave what isn't broken well enough alone. That is not what happened in the sixties. We could have done with a lot less rage, and a lot more thought. Sometimes the question should not have been what we could do, but what we should do. We may have fixed a lot, but we messed up a lot too, and America is still paying the price for that.We air our dirty laundry to the nation and the world today simply because we can. If the Internet were available in every home and business in the 50s, victims of race discrimination, sexual discrimination, child abuse, and spousal abuse, as well as every whistleblower, and victim of injustice would be telling their story to the world. Its not that people in the fifties had no voice; the problem was it was difficult to make their voice heard. In 1950, there were just over 2,000 newspapers. Today when you include all the online forums, blogs, and news outlets, there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of online publications all asking for input from readers. We have more laws to address injustice and more people interesting in seeing that those laws are enforced.Yes back then many things were hidden beneath the surface, in order to promote the better good out in the public as it was thought to be, but like you say, if one scratched beneath that surface, there was alot of work to be done for sure.Memories are always selective. We remember moments not days, events not history. The fifties laid the groundwork for the 60s and the tumultuous changes that followed.
Race discrimination was not just acceptable, but the law in many parts of the country supported it. A mixed race couple was likely to find themselves ostracized from society. In the south, schools were segregated; the whites went to the good schools and the blacks went to the poor schools.
It was not just legal to pay a women half what you paid a man for the same work, it was to be expected. Barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen was the future for most women from poor families.
Sex was hidden away in the bedroom, something that wasn't discussed in public and certainly not in the classroom or in mixed company. Unwed mothers were scorned by society for their evil deeds. The fathers rarely shared the blame. Child and spouse abuse was common, but hidden away as was incest and homosexuality. In fact, the treatment for most of societies problems was to ignore them and pretend they didn't exist. For many people, the 50's were a happy time as long as you didn't scratch beneath the surface.
Such hypocrisies of the 50s were not to be ignored by the young people in the 60s. This brought about monumental changes, some good and some bad.
The problem with today, is that we want to air out all our dirty laundry right into the streets, regardless of what message it sends to the children or what damaging effects it has on the betterement of society as a whole, because people are just selfish these days, and don't care what damage is caused by the airing out of our dirty laundry into the streets (creating this anything goes society as a result of, all in stead of daring it (the bad part) to come out into the open as it was back in those days.
Yes racism needed desperately to come out, and to be worked on out in the open for sure, but the other (((((bad stuff))))) needed not to hitch a ride out of the closet, by clinging to the race issue as a disquise, yet sadly that is exactly what Mr. Bad Stuff had done (got a free ticket to ride).
By bad stuff in the 60s, I was referring to the assignations of our leaders, riots, and hatred. If you are saying having a more open society in regard to gays, addressing sexual discrimination, hate crimes, and abuse is bad stuff, I disagree.
I lived the50s - so If Iwas born in 53 first cuople years they were a fog - can still recall around 56 -59
Better times - much better times
I lived the50s - so If Iwas born in 53 first cuople years they were a fog - can still recall around 56 -59
Better times - much better times
You may even call them Happy Days
There were so many political and social changes that took place in 60's, it was inevitable that some would be seen as negative by future generations. In just 10 years, we saw the beginning of the Viet Nam war which would tear the country apart, the space program which would forever be looked upon as one our greatest achievements, the assassination of a president, an attorney general, and the leader of the civil rights movement, and the introduction of the first oral contraceptive.The only problem was, that we threw out the good and the bad alike. There are alternatives to puritanism other than complete hedonism. There are alternatives to replacing hate with more hate. There are alternatives to simply trashing every tradition for the sake of change; change for its own sake is not always a good thing. No, the fifties weren't all good, not by a long shot, but they weren't totally evil, either. Patriotism is not necessarily jingoism, but still today, we don't appear able to tell the difference. If there's a lesson here, it's that you don't wantonly destroy a society's institutions because they aren't working right; you fix what's broken, and leave what isn't broken well enough alone. That is not what happened in the sixties. We could have done with a lot less rage, and a lot more thought. Sometimes the question should not have been what we could do, but what we should do. We may have fixed a lot, but we messed up a lot too, and America is still paying the price for that.We air our dirty laundry to the nation and the world today simply because we can. If the Internet were available in every home and business in the 50s, victims of race discrimination, sexual discrimination, child abuse, and spousal abuse, as well as every whistleblower, and victim of injustice would be telling their story to the world. Its not that people in the fifties had no voice; the problem was it was difficult to make their voice heard. In 1950, there were just over 2,000 newspapers. Today when you include all the online forums, blogs, and news outlets, there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of online publications all asking for input from readers. We have more laws to address injustice and more people interesting in seeing that those laws are enforced.Yes back then many things were hidden beneath the surface, in order to promote the better good out in the public as it was thought to be, but like you say, if one scratched beneath that surface, there was alot of work to be done for sure.
The problem with today, is that we want to air out all our dirty laundry right into the streets, regardless of what message it sends to the children or what damaging effects it has on the betterement of society as a whole, because people are just selfish these days, and don't care what damage is caused by the airing out of our dirty laundry into the streets (creating this anything goes society as a result of, all in stead of daring it (the bad part) to come out into the open as it was back in those days.
Yes racism needed desperately to come out, and to be worked on out in the open for sure, but the other (((((bad stuff))))) needed not to hitch a ride out of the closet, by clinging to the race issue as a disquise, yet sadly that is exactly what Mr. Bad Stuff had done (got a free ticket to ride).
By bad stuff in the 60s, I was referring to the assignations of our leaders, riots, and hatred. If you are saying having a more open society in regard to gays, addressing sexual discrimination, hate crimes, and abuse is bad stuff, I disagree.
50s sucked........no interweb
Born in 1941.
There were some fascinating shows on the radio in those days, the family sat around the radio instead of the TV, tuning in each week to be scared by mysteries such as Lights Out, Inner Sanctum, The Shadow and The Whistler; laughed or were fascinated by shows like Fibber McGee and Molly, The Life of Riley.
Remember how Orson Welles caused a wave of fear throughout the country in 1937 with his "War of the Worlds" radio program?
Water was heated on the stove on Saturday nights for our baths. There were so many more neighborhood schools in those days, that most kids walked the few blocks to grade school. Only the kids in the country took the school bus. When the fifties began I was in the 3rd grade, graduating high school in 1959. Even when TV was in practically every home, say after 1950, kids didn't run home to watch it. There was too much to do in the neighborhood, too much freedom to enjoy. There were some regular shows that you didn't want to miss, like "The Lone Ranger" on Thursday nights, or "I led Three Lives," a little later in the decade, but TV never became what it is today, and even moreso what the computer is.
There were no "latchkey kids" in those days, I guess because almost no mothers worked. There weren't enough jobs then and during the fifties, just after the depression. And parents weren't worried about all the possible crimes that could be committed against their children when they were out of their sight.
I was born in 1951. I enjoyed growing up in the 50's. Really liked the 60's. Loved those mini-skirts. They should hang whoever invented panty hose. I miss the girls all wearing those garter belts and stockings. Sure, there were some problems but compared to the world we live in today, those problems were small.
