The Gay Cowboy Movie

[Abbey Normal]

Then I guess maybe hollywierds next move will be to create an award show specifically for queers.

I could definitely see that happening.

 

[KarlMarx]

Ok, make your predictions here. What awards will this movie win?

My guess is none.

I have to disagree, I believe it will win all sorts of awards (I'm sure GLAAD has awards for such movies, if not, they'll invent one for the occassion)....

but the one area where it won't win will be in the one that counts the most... box office receipts....

for that, it will definitely get the "Biggest Box Office Bomb Ever to Disgrace The Silver Screen Since 'Heaven's Gate'" Award

(and those of us who are old enough to remember Heaven's Gate, most don't because it was that big of a bomb)

 

[Dan]

Once Hollywood gets the message that most people aren't going to fork over their hard earned dollars to watch a movie that amounts to two men sodomizing each other, they'll think twice about producing this garbage.

If this movie amounts to "two men sodomizing each other", then The Passion amounts to "a guy gets nailed to a board".

That said, I don't think it will do well, either. I think you're right that the average moviegoer won't want to see this. However, the only reason it's recieving so much press is because its stars are kind of the "it" thing (or at least they were a couple years ago). Movies about homosexuals is nothing new.

 

[KarlMarx]

If this movie amounts to "two men sodomizing each other", then The Passion amounts to "a guy gets nailed to a board".

That said, I don't think it will do well, either. I think you're right that the average moviegoer won't want to see this. However, the only reason it's recieving so much press is because its stars are kind of the "it" thing (or at least they were a couple years ago). Movies about homosexuals is nothing new.

I'll have to disagree with your opinion about the Passion. The Passion means something to most people, because most of us were raised Christian. Christianity is the basis of our culture.

Homosexuality, on the other hand, is alien to most people. Most people are not homosexuals, they won't be able to understand or relate to the story and I'll wager, find the scenes repugnant. Let's face it, even people who are tolerant of gays don't particular care to watch them engage in sex.

Movies about homosexuals are nothing new, yes, but movies about homosexuals with a lot of press coverage are.

The two actors in this movie are not familiar to me, I can't say that they're that well known, but I may be wrong.

No, I believe that the attention from the press has everything to do with the subject matter, not the two men who are playing the leading role.

 

[insein]

I'll have to disagree with your opinion about the Passion. The Passion means something to most people, because most of us were raised Christian. Christianity is the basis of our culture.

Homosexuality, on the other hand, is alien to most people. Most people are not homosexuals, they won't be able to understand or relate to the story and I'll wager, find the scenes repugnant. Let's face it, even people who are tolerant of gays don't particular care to watch them engage in sex.

Movies about homosexuals are nothing new, yes, but movies about homosexuals with a lot of press coverage are.

The two actors in this movie are not familiar to me, I can't say that they're that well known, but I may be wrong.

No, I believe that the attention from the press has everything to do with the subject matter, not the two men who are playing the leading role.

Heath Ledger was Mel Gibson's son in The Patriot. Jay Gillenhal was the liberal douchebag kid of the old liberal douchebag dad in the Day after tommorrow.

Always figured they were fags. This just proves it.

 

[TheEnemyWithin]

I'll have to disagree with your opinion about the Passion. The Passion means something to most people, because most of us were raised Christian. Christianity is the basis of our culture.

Homosexuality, on the other hand, is alien to most people. Most people are not homosexuals, they won't be able to understand or relate to the story and I'll wager, find the scenes repugnant. Let's face it, even people who are tolerant of gays don't particular care to watch them engage in sex.

Movies about homosexuals are nothing new, yes, but movies about homosexuals with a lot of press coverage are.

The two actors in this movie are not familiar to me, I can't say that they're that well known, but I may be wrong.

No, I believe that the attention from the press has everything to do with the subject matter, not the two men who are playing the leading role.

Agreed!!! I've heard a few lefties say things like, "This is the movie that the right-wing Bible-thumpers don't want you to see." I could care less if you go see that movie, it's a free country! Just so you know, you're a complete moron if you honestly believe that it has one teeny smidgen of historical fact whatsoever.

 

[KarlMarx]

Heath Ledger was Mel Gibson's son in The Patriot. Jay Gillenhal was the liberal douchebag kid of the old liberal douchebag dad in the Day after tommorrow.

Always figured they were fags. This just proves it.

So a pair of Clark Gables or Humphrey Bogarts, they're not....

I have a feeling that 10 years from now, no one will remember their names.

 

[Bonnie]

Pale Rider..What would make me faint in astonishment is if hollywierd put out a movie in support of HETEROSEXAULITY...

They have it's called "Fatal Attraction", "Sex Lies and Videotape"..Heterosexual Monogomy at it's finest

 

[Bonnie]

I have to disagree, I believe it will win all sorts of awards (I'm sure GLAAD has awards for such movies, if not, they'll invent one for the occassion)....

but the one area where it won't win will be in the one that counts the most... box office receipts....

for that, it will definitely get the "Biggest Box Office Bomb Ever to Disgrace The Silver Screen Since 'Heaven's Gate'" Award

(and those of us who are old enough to remember Heaven's Gate, most don't because it was that big of a bomb)

Of course it will be critically acclaimed and celebrated by every elite Hollywood award ceremony...citing how "groundbreaking" it is, and how it makes us all much more aware of the Gay cowboy plight.

They don't make movies to appeal to people ---they make movies like that to win eachothers praise.

 

[MtnBiker]

John Wayne is rolling in is grave.

Imagine that pitch session.

Pitch man - "O.k. John here is how the screen play will go. You and your buddy are off on a hunting trip then have fantastic gay sex with each other. Then you go through life with tremendous confusion and pain trying to live in denial of your real feelings."

John Wayne - " What the fuck! "

 

[Bonnie]

John Wayne is rolling in is grave.

Imagine that pitch session.

Pitch man - "O.k. John here is how the screen play will go. You and your buddy are off on a hunting trip then have loving gay sex with each other. Then go through life with tremendous confusion and pain trying to live in denial of your real feelings."

John Wayne - " What the fuck! "

:rotflmao: sounds even more ridiculous when you spell it out...

 

[Shattered]

3 pages of reading, and all I can say is... ...

 

[KarlMarx]

I was looking for box office figures for this movie on IMDB (not available yet), I noticed a forum for user comments at the bottom of the page... one comment is....

"Homophobes, before you post Jesus asks: have you helped the poor today?"

Don't you just hate it when the Left is judgemental, preachy and sanctimonious???... oh wait, silly me, I forgot, the Left isn't capable of those things... they're ENLIGHTENING us... yeah, that's it!!!!

P.S. C.S. Lewis' "Chronicles of Narnia" --- $65 Million so far and it's only been one weekend!!!!

P.P.S. --- another Karl Trivia Attack!!!!! --- C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien were fellow professors at Oxford and good friends. In fact, C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien each encouraged the other to continue writing their works.

P.P.P.S. --- bonus trivia attack!!!! ----- C.S. Lewis died the same day as fellow author, Aldous Huxley ("Brave New World"). Their deaths occurred on November 22, 1963... the same day JFK was assassinated...

 

[Bonnie]

I was looking for box office figures for this movie on IMDB (not available yet), I noticed a forum for user comments at the bottom of the page... one comment is....

"Homophobes, before you post Jesus asks: have you helped the poor today?"

Don't you just hate it when the Left is judgemental, preachy and sanctimonious???... oh wait, silly me, I forgot, the Left isn't capable of those things... they're ENLIGHTENING us... yeah, that's it!!!!

P.S. C.S. Lewis' "Chronicles of Narnia" --- $65 Million so far and it's only been one weekend!!!!

P.P.S. --- another Karl Trivia Attack!!!!! --- C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien were fellow professors at Oxford and good friends. In fact, C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien each encouraged the other to continue writing their works.

P.P.P.S. --- bonus trivia attack!!!! ----- C.S. Lewis died the same day as fellow author, Aldous Huxley ("Brave New World"). Their deaths occurred on November 22, 1963... the same day JFK was assassinated...

Now Karl don't you know that Hollywood invented sex??

 

[fuzzykitten99]

So, I'm assuming nobody posting in this thread is a fan of Tom Hanks? Charlize Theron? Salma Hayek?

I like all 3 of those actors, and the movies they played homo characters in. This is because the movies were not solely based on homosexuality and did not show actual homo sex. They didn't show the characters romping and rolling around together. I liked Philadelphia, because of the whole aspect that Hanks' character was discriminated against, and he stuck up for himself.

I like the movie "The Birdcage" simply because I find the whole thing just hilarious, and don't care about the other stuff. They make fun of BOTH liberals and conservatives. But they don't show Robin and Nathan romping together in bed.

This cowboy movie plays against the whole American visualization of the old West. Not that there were not any gay lovers back then, I just prefer not to think about someone like John Wayne, wearing pink panties. Guys dressing like women or even just feminine, in movies isn't a new concept, it's just the character types in this movie that have most people not wanting to change how they see the cowboys.

Plus, I think most Americans accept that the homos aren't going away, and definitely aren't gonna shut up about themselves, and we kind oftolerate it, because of this reason. Most of us just prefer not to watch a movie where we SEE them um, doing more than just dressing the part and touting off funny one-liners.

 

[007]

I like all 3 of those actors, and the movies they played homo characters in. This is because the movies were not solely based on homosexuality and did not show actual homo sex. They didn't show the characters romping and rolling around together.

Well, actually fuzz, and I hate to be the one to point this out, because I think Salma Hayek is extremely hot, but in the movie "Frida", she did a lesbian love scene, and yes, they were naked, and romping and rolling around together.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Let's be honest, the real problem many have is with male homo sex, not general homo sex. People will line up all day long to watch girl on girl action.

 

[007]

Let's be honest, the real problem many have is with male homo sex, not general homo sex. People will line up all day long to watch girl on girl action.

From a man's prospective, no, I don't find woman on woman sex as revolting as men. But I attribute that to the fact that I'm a male, and I'm attracted to women.

Now on the other hand, I would expect a woman to be as disgusted with woman on woman sex as I am with man on man. But... maybe I'm wrong.

 

[BATMAN]

Oscars? Golden Globes? MTV? Pick something, and we can see how well you know Hollywood.

Here's a story:

'Brokeback Mountain' Leads Globe Nods
BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - The cowboy romance "Brokeback Mountain" led Golden Globe contenders Tuesday with seven nominations, among them best dramatic picture and honors for actors Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams and director Ang Lee, positioning itself as a key Academy Awards competitor.

The contorting has begun.

 

[KarlMarx]

From a man's prospective, no, I don't find woman on woman sex as revolting as men. But I attribute that to the fact that I'm a male, and I'm attracted to women.

Now on the other hand, I would expect a woman to be as disgusted with woman on woman sex as I am with man on man. But... maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, whether it's gay or whether it's lesbian isn't the point.

A movie that featured explicit sex scenes wouldn't have been shown years ago. Any theater owner that did so, risked criminal prosecution.

That all changed when somewhere along the line (I'm going to guess that it was the Supreme Court) decided that pornography is protected under the First Amendment. I have to say that was a wrong decision and not one that the founding fathers intended.

My understanding is that the Free Speech clause of the First Amendment applies to political speech only, not to pornography.

The irony is that political free speech has been under attack for years, yet pornography has enjoyed all sorts of First Amendment protections and no one seems to realize the irony of it all. One of the biggest attacks in recent history is Campaign Finance Reform, which prohibits negative political ads within "n" number of days before an election. If that isn't a violation of the First Amendement, what is?