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There was little daylight in there minds as to the character and virtue required of the people to hold onto a working republic.
Trusting the modern majority of people in the USA to interpret the Constitution is rather foolish they have been deliberately ill educated for almost 100 years .
People calling our form of government as a democracy is just one symptom .
Thinking we can expect our elected officials to be more virtuous then those who elect them is another.
There was little daylight in there minds as to the character and virtue required of the people to hold onto a working republic.
Trusting the modern majority of people in the USA to interpret the Constitution is rather foolish they have been deliberately ill educated for almost 100 years .
People calling our form of government as a democracy is just one symptom .
See, this is where you separate the true partisans from the rational people.
Partisans, like Fitnah, see the world in black-and-white, where their side is naturally always in the right.
Thus a linear, two sided graph indicated "right" and "wrong", with his political opponents in the "wrong".
Of course the world is not that simple.
This is the correct political spectrum, not some crap-assed partisan blame assignment like that in the OP:
There's a "Y" and an "X" axis.
See, this is where you separate the true partisans from the rational people.
Partisans, like Fitnah, see the world in black-and-white, where their side is naturally always in the right.
Thus a linear, two sided graph indicated "right" and "wrong", with his political opponents in the "wrong".
Of course the world is not that simple.
This is the correct political spectrum, not some crap-assed partisan blame assignment like that in the OP:
There's a "Y" and an "X" axis.
I vaguely recall once seeing a chart that added a z-axis
People calling our form of government as a democracy is just one symptom .
Of knowing what they're talking about?
S: (n) democracy, republic, commonwealth (a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them)
Our republican form is of the [representative] democratic type.
Governmental form and type is kinda like species and order
People calling our form of government as a democracy is just one symptom .
Of knowing what they're talking about?
S: (n) democracy, republic, commonwealth (a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them)
Our republican form is of the [representative] democratic type.
Governmental form and type is kinda like species and order
A republic government is a type of government where the citizens choose the leaders of their country [1] and the people (or at least a part of its people)[2] have an impact on its government.[3][4] The word "republic" is derived from the Latin phrase res publica, which can be translated as "a public affair".
Both modern and ancient republics vary widely in their ideology and composition. The most common definition of a republic is a state without a monarch.[5] In republics such as the United States and France the executive is legitimated both by a constitution and by popular suffrage. In the United States, James Madison defined republic in terms of representative democracy as opposed to direct democracy[6], and this usage is still employed by many viewing themselves as "republicans".[7] In modern political science, republicanism refers to a specific ideology that is based on civic virtue and is considered distinct from ideologies such as liberalism.[8]
AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (170690)
QUOTATION: Well, Doctor, what have we gota Republic or a Monarchy?
A Republic, if you can keep it.
I vaguely recall once seeing a chart that added a z-axis
Well, see, here's the problem.
Conservatism does in fact promote economic freedom, but it does not promote social freedom.
Liberalism promotes social freedom, but does not promote economic freedom.
So, your chart needs another dimension, an x,y axis.
Like this:
This is known as the "Nolan Chart", and is much more accurate.
Note that it's creator, David Nolan, was a staunch Libertarian.
You can check out the Nolan Chart here .
That is your opinion Mr.Starkey, it is not mine .No, the linear model is merely a cloak for libertarian nonsense. Move on, Mr. F.
Here's the thing. That chart uses two words: tyranny and anarchy. It's conflating tyranny with any form of governance. Tyranny is a loaded word and makes discussion about political ideologies difficult. Not only that, but by conflating tyranny with governance it ignores the tyranny of anarchy.
So what is the appropriate level of tyranny? 1%? 25%? 50%? What is the metric for these percentages?
The bottom line is, freedom can't be plotted on a chart. Sure, a person in Somalia may be "free"--according to that chart--because they are subject to no government regulations, no central law enforcement, but are they really free? They are trapped in the cyclical poverty of 21st century feudalism and, while they may be able to take a crap in the middle of the road without being sent to jail, they are kept under the oppressive thumb of poverty and violence generated by the local warlords. Is that freedom?
Anarchy is not static, which means that chart cannot be a universally applied metric. Anarchy is the blank slate of a socio-political structure from which other systems grow: monarchy, feudalism, republicanism, etc. There can never be that 0%; there will always be some form of governance, what that chart is trying to label "tyranny".
Freedom is more than just the number of laws, more than a percentage; it's a state of being whose only reliable metric is gaged relative to those in the same social structure.
