The Forcing of Spanish on the American People.

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    Immigrants and English
    The question of whether or not immigrants want to
    learn English remains a flashpoint in the immigration
    debate. Where some may see only a linguistic
    shortcoming, others interpret an inability
    to speak English as an unwillingness to fit into
    American society. Common complaints framed in the form of
    questions include “Why can’t they speak English?” and “Why
    don’t they learn English the way past immigrants learned it?”


    As with many other issues, Americans base their conclusions
    about this subject largely on personal experience.
    Native-born people who come into contact
    with the many immigrants who work in
    restaurants, hotels, and retail, draw conclusions
    from these encounters about whether
    immigrants as a group are learning English.

    To understand the subject, it is helpful to
    examine academic studies and census data to
    see how people’s perceptions match up with
    reality. Moreover, one should review survey
    questions answered by immigrants, analyze
    data on earlier immigrants to the United States, and look at current
    U.S. efforts to teach English to newcomers.


    This is the led-in to a report made by the CATO Institute. It tries to make Americans think that Mexicans and other Latin American people who are now in the US are trying their best to learn English and be good Americans. It also attempts to show that the children of these "Spanish Only" language people will actually drop the use of Spanish the longer they live in the United States.

    Here is the report:
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/irb/irb_october2010.pdf

    If you are an American living near these people, you must have experienced that even if they know how to speak English, they seem to put up "the wall of Spanish" as an American walks by to keep you at a distance. (A real insult in most countries and might even get you killed)

    You will also notice that as these "immigrants" start taking over a neighborhood, they use the Spanish language to mark their territory. Businesses spring up with not a word of English on them to invite American customers onto their property. They are basically saying "YANKEE GO HOME"! Is this a sign that these "immigrants", who borrowed money from American banks to open those businesses in the first place, will make good Americans?

    The report goes on to use an example of 1910 Wisconsin and German speaking residence. They use this hundred year old example to show that very few of these Germans spoke English. What they don't discuss is the fact that in most farming communities, the average person may not travel more that twenty miles away for years and maybe not for their entire lives. What brought them out of those communities was being drafted into the wars of the 20th century. But the vast majority of Latin Americans really have no experience of helping the United States fight those wars.

    The final paragraphs are on how important the English language is, not just to America, but the world, as it is being learned in virtually every country around the globe. But if this is the case, why are these people forcing Spanish on their children? Why are they forcing Americans to learn Spanish?


     
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    I'm not quite certain how to respond to this. It's either quite biased and anti-Hispanic or terribly true!!! :cool:

    I've been married to 22 years to a woman from Mexico so I've been close to the Hispanic community here in Las Vegas.

    While there are no "barrios" there are distinct areas where one finds Hispanic businesses. A lot of Hispanic grocery stores are, in fact, doing far better than their Gringo counterparts.

    What bothers me most is that it shows a trend not to become Americanized - to melt into the melting pot we once had.:cool:
     
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    The melting pot idea means we absorb each others cultures not that the new culture melts away entirely.


    This guy is a flat out racist though
     
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    One of the things that cracks me up about this issue is most of the accomadations made for spanish speaking people is done by the free market.

    The business sector knows that there is money to be made with people who speak only spanish so they accomodate them.

    Right wing fools then think its all coming from the government
     
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    People don't automatically speak perfect English when they get here, but by the second generation, that's usually a moot point. Be patient. If the parents don't speak, the kids will help them out. There's also the fact the Spanish IS an American laguage. Many Americans are born on AMERICAN SOIL where Spanish is the first language, so how can it not be an American language? As long as Puerto Ricans are American citizens, English CAN'T be recognized as the one and only language in America.
     
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    In truth, they expect everybody to cater to their wishes. They're not going to melt unless we drop a few bombs on Mexico.
     
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    I'll eat a taco or two but those porch monkeys better learn the laws of the land in English.
     
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    Then the business sector better get used to living in a Latin American ghetto. This isn't going to stop in the low income neighborhoods.
     
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    But Latin Americans shouldn't be treated like they are the chosen ones. We did better when every other country sent "immigrants". If you think Latinos are going to improve life in America, take a look at what they did to there own lands. Now where are you going to move to?
     
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    Also, anyone running around with a mexican flag should be shot.

    If it's so fucking great, why'd you crawl across the desert to get here?
     

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