The federal government has NO AUTHORITY to interdict, detain and deport. NONE.

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4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson
 
4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Nor have the several States surrendered the power of conferring these rights and privileges by adopting the Constitution of the United States. Each State may still confer them upon an alien, or any one it thinks proper, or upon any class or description of persons; yet he would not be a citizen in the sense in
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which that word is used in the Constitution of the United States,


BOYD v. NEBRASKA EX REL. THAYER., 12 S. Ct. 375, 143 U.S. 135 (U.S. 02/01/1892)
 
So, because Jefferson said it, it has to be true?

Fucking idiot. The Federal government doesn't just have authority to deport illegals, it has a positive duty to get them the fuck out as quickly as possible.
 
So, because Jefferson said it, it has to be true?

Fucking idiot. The Federal government doesn't just have authority to deport illegals, it has a positive duty to get them the fuck out as quickly as possible.

OK Dingle Berry,

let me teach how to debate

your response should have stated that


Article ________, Section ___________ Clause ________ states that the federal government has the authority to interdict, detain and deport.

Don't quote the KKK Bylaws nor the rules of the welfare state.


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Oh, as the House will tell you, "stfu" and let us deal with this, Conty. You have your own legal worries."
 
4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Here is the US Code that covers illegal entry into the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
Current through Pub. L.
113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
 
4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Here is the US Code that covers illegal entry into the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(
3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.


The US Code is valid only if authorized by an SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED Constitutional (1787) proviso.

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4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Here is the US Code that covers illegal entry into the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(
3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.


The US Code is valid only if authorized by an SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED Constitutional (1787) proviso.

.

Are there any other US Codes that are invalid?
 
What does the Constitution have to say about defending the sovereignty of the country?
 
4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Here is the US Code that covers illegal entry into the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(
3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.


The US Code is valid only if authorized by an SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED Constitutional (1787) proviso.

.

Are there any other US Codes that are invalid?


99.9 % , possibly more, of what the federal government does is UNConstitutional.

.
 
What does the Constitution have to say about defending the sovereignty of the country?


In 1787 it was NOT understood that the federal government was going to represent a the government.

It was then understood that thirteen sovereign states were forming a federal union with SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED POWERS.

None of the aliens come here with the intention to take over and harm us.

Prior to 1965 we had open borders with Mexico and Canada and there was no harm caused.


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What does the Constitution have to say about defending the sovereignty of the country?


In 1787 it was NOT understood that the federal government was going to represent a the government.

It was then understood that thirteen sovereign states were forming a federal union with SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED POWERS.

None of the aliens come here with the intention to take over and harm us.

Prior to 1965 we had open borders with Mexico and Canada and there was no harm caused.


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They don't? Hmmm, La Raza sure seems to be intent on that very thing....

la_raza-protest-sign.jpg


2598722674_bb6f891317_z.jpg
laraza1.jpg
mexica1.jpg
2008-07-14-proimmigration2.jpg
AllEuropeansAreIllegalSign.jpg
illegal-alien-protest-sign-threatens-to-kill-police1.jpg
 
What does the Constitution have to say about defending the sovereignty of the country?


In 1787 it was NOT understood that the federal government was going to represent a the government.

It was then understood that thirteen sovereign states were forming a federal union with SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED POWERS.

None of the aliens come here with the intention to take over and harm us.

Prior to 1965 we had open borders with Mexico and Canada and there was no harm caused.


.







They don't? Hmmm, La Raza sure seems to be intent on that very thing....

la_raza-protest-sign.jpg


2598722674_bb6f891317_z.jpg
laraza1.jpg
mexica1.jpg
2008-07-14-proimmigration2.jpg
AllEuropeansAreIllegalSign.jpg
illegal-alien-protest-sign-threatens-to-kill-police1.jpg


Bullshit.

They are merely reacting to neonazi skin heads dogma.

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What does the Constitution have to say about defending the sovereignty of the country?


In 1787 it was NOT understood that the federal government was going to represent a the government.

It was then understood that thirteen sovereign states were forming a federal union with SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED POWERS.

None of the aliens come here with the intention to take over and harm us.

Prior to 1965 we had open borders with Mexico and Canada and there was no harm caused.


.







They don't? Hmmm, La Raza sure seems to be intent on that very thing....

la_raza-protest-sign.jpg


2598722674_bb6f891317_z.jpg
laraza1.jpg
mexica1.jpg
2008-07-14-proimmigration2.jpg
AllEuropeansAreIllegalSign.jpg
illegal-alien-protest-sign-threatens-to-kill-police1.jpg


Bullshit.

They are merely reacting to neonazi skin heads dogma.

.
You are full of shit. Stop lying libtard.
 
What does the Constitution have to say about defending the sovereignty of the country?


In 1787 it was NOT understood that the federal government was going to represent a the government.

It was then understood that thirteen sovereign states were forming a federal union with SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED POWERS.

None of the aliens come here with the intention to take over and harm us.

Prior to 1965 we had open borders with Mexico and Canada and there was no harm caused.


.







They don't? Hmmm, La Raza sure seems to be intent on that very thing....

la_raza-protest-sign.jpg


2598722674_bb6f891317_z.jpg
laraza1.jpg
mexica1.jpg
2008-07-14-proimmigration2.jpg
AllEuropeansAreIllegalSign.jpg
illegal-alien-protest-sign-threatens-to-kill-police1.jpg


Bullshit.

They are merely reacting to neonazi skin heads dogma.

.
You are full of shit. Stop lying libtard.


Are you the KKK's Great Wizard?


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So, because Jefferson said it, it has to be true?

Fucking idiot. The Federal government doesn't just have authority to deport illegals, it has a positive duty to get them the fuck out as quickly as possible.

OK Dingle Berry,

let me teach how to debate

your response should have stated that


Article ________, Section ___________ Clause ________ states that the federal government has the authority to interdict, detain and deport.

Don't quote the KKK Bylaws nor the rules of the welfare state.


.
The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law. “But that's not in the Constitution” is a failed and ignorant 'argument.'
 
4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Here is the US Code that covers illegal entry into the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(
3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.


The US Code is valid only if authorized by an SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED Constitutional (1787) proviso.

.
Incorrect.

The Constitution affords Congress powers both expressed and implied. McCulloch v. Maryland (1819).
 
4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Here is the US Code that covers illegal entry into the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(
3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.


The US Code is valid only if authorized by an SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED Constitutional (1787) proviso.

.

Are there any other US Codes that are invalid?


99.9 % , possibly more, of what the federal government does is UNConstitutional.

.
Incorrect.

Acts of Congress are presumed to be Constitutional until the Supreme Court rules otherwise. US v. Morrison (2000).
 
4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

Here is the US Code that covers illegal entry into the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(
3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.


The US Code is valid only if authorized by an SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED Constitutional (1787) proviso.

.

Are there any other US Codes that are invalid?


99.9 % , possibly more, of what the federal government does is UNConstitutional.

.
Incorrect.

Acts of Congress are presumed to be Constitutional until the Supreme Court rules otherwise. US v. Morrison (2000).

I wish I was smart enough to have said that. I hope you recognized the sarcasm in my question.
 

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