The Fat & Cholesterol Conspiracy

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***I am not a doctor, I am not a dietician***

With the above disclaimer in mind, I am a Nurse and a Respiratory Therapist. I am also a specialist in a field that i cannot name because there are so few of us here in Orlando that it would be easy for anyone to track and could cause problems for myself, my employer and the hospitals that I provide services for. Suffice to say my specialization isn't in the dietary area of medicine. I do have 30 years total in Medicine, I have an extensive knowledge of the human body, and I am very familiar with the way the health industry operates.

Now, to the conspiracy.

Few people in the medical field will argue that in general, Americans are over medicated. I could go on about antibiotics and auto-immune diseases but that's another thread. This is about the conspiracy surrounding fat, cholesterol, diet, statins, and the enormous amounts of money that the pharmaceutical companies take in with them. Statins is a class of drug that is prescribed to reduce cholesterol levels in the blood.

Heart Disease is a very real and very serious problem in America. No doubt about it. Here's my beef: in all likelyhood, millions of people perhaps multiples of that are taking statins for no reason.

Overworked doctors rely on studies and best-practice models to be able to treat all the patients that they must treat daily. If they spent time running their own tests, conducting their own research, or doing extensive tracking and data gathering, not only would they have twice the work they now have, their patients would suffer. Unfortunately, studies are sometimes flawed and best-practices change often. How many times in your life have you heard doctors or studies claim that such and such is bad for you and then years down the road they say the opposite? So, in other words, patients can get prescribed a medication, or warned to avoid something, or ordered to do something else and the basis of the doctor's recommendation could be wrong.

What this leads to is this. Studies were done many years ago that linked high cholesterol to heart disease. Pharmaceutical companies developed drugs to reduce cholesterol, and produced studies that showed that their drugs reduced it. now whenever a doctor sees a high cholesterol level in his patient, he prescribes the medication. Pharmaceutical companies got rich. I am not claiming that doctors on in on a conspiracy knowingly, in fact the doctor's hands are tied in fact. But a large number of people who are on statins, don't need to be.

The 3 MAIN risks for heart disease are:

1. Family History
2. Diabetes
3. Hypertension

High cholesterol isn't even in the top three risks. It is also a fact that if you have one or more of the top three, you are at high risk for heart disease even if you are on statins.

Example:

I'm 56 years old. Both of my parents are 80 years old and neither one of them have heart disease. I do not have diabetes, my blood pressure runs low-ish. I do not smoke, I do not have a whole lot of stress in my life. I am not obese (except by bogus insurance standards) even though I want to lose weight. I am a low risk for heart disease. yet, my doctor and I disagree in the fact that he wants me to take a statin and I refuse. there is no reason for me to take the drug, and I won't.

Think of all the industries that have risen around the idea of preventing heart attacks. It boggles the mind. Health food stores, prescription pharmaceuticals, low fat foods, a bajillion versions of low fat diets, exercise equipment, herbal drugs, vitamins, vegetarianism, etc. etc.

If the truth came out about fat and cholesterol, would it ever be allowed to be known?
 
Granny eats yogurt to lower her cholesterol...

Half of people who need cholesterol-lowering drugs not getting them
Dec. 3, 2015 - More than a third of adults in the United States have high cholesterol and could be treated with medication under current guidelines.
While the number of people with high cholesterol has gone down over the last decade, new research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests many people who could benefit from cholesterol-lowering drugs are not taking them. The CDC said fewer than half of people with high cholesterol and who either have heart disease or are at risk for it are being prescribed drugs cholesterol-lowering drugs they could benefit from, according to the agency's latest Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

Half-of-people-who-need-cholesterol-lowering-drugs-not-getting-them.jpg

While lifestyle modifications are recommended along with medication for lowering cholesterol, 35.5 percent of Americans with high cholesterol are doing neither.​

The American College of Cardiology and the American Heart Association recommend the drugs for people with heart disease, people with high cholesterol, people between the ages of 40 and 75 with diabetes and high cholesterol and those with diabetes, high cholesterol and who are at risk for heart disease. Researchers analyzed data collected between 2005 and 2012 as part of the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, finding that 36.7 percent of adults in the United States -- about 78.1 million people over age 21 -- are eligible for the drugs.

Of people who should be treated with the drugs, 55.5 percent were on cholesterol-lowering drugs, 46.6 percent reported making lifestyle changes, 37.1 percent were making lifestyle modifications and taking medication, and 35.5 percent reported doing neither. "Nearly 800,000 people die in the U.S. each year from cardiovascular diseases -- that's 1 in every 3 deaths -- and high cholesterol continues to be a major risk factor," Dr. Carla Mercado, a scientist in the CDC's Division for Heart Disease and Stroke Prevention, said in a press release. "This study reveals opportunities to reduce existing disparities through targeted patient education and cholesterol management programs," she said.

Half of people who need cholesterol-lowering drugs not getting them
 
Granny eats yogurt to lower her cholesterol...

Half of people who need cholesterol-lowering drugs not getting them
Dec. 3, 2015 - More than a third of adults in the United States have high cholesterol and could be treated with medication under current guidelines.
While the number of people with high cholesterol has gone down over the last decade, new research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests many people who could benefit from cholesterol-lowering drugs are not taking them. The CDC said fewer than half of people with high cholesterol and who either have heart disease or are at risk for it are being prescribed drugs cholesterol-lowering drugs they could benefit from, according to the agency's latest Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

Half-of-people-who-need-cholesterol-lowering-drugs-not-getting-them.jpg

While lifestyle modifications are recommended along with medication for lowering cholesterol, 35.5 percent of Americans with high cholesterol are doing neither.​

The American College of Cardiology and the American Heart Association recommend the drugs for people with heart disease, people with high cholesterol, people between the ages of 40 and 75 with diabetes and high cholesterol and those with diabetes, high cholesterol and who are at risk for heart disease. Researchers analyzed data collected between 2005 and 2012 as part of the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, finding that 36.7 percent of adults in the United States -- about 78.1 million people over age 21 -- are eligible for the drugs.

Of people who should be treated with the drugs, 55.5 percent were on cholesterol-lowering drugs, 46.6 percent reported making lifestyle changes, 37.1 percent were making lifestyle modifications and taking medication, and 35.5 percent reported doing neither. "Nearly 800,000 people die in the U.S. each year from cardiovascular diseases -- that's 1 in every 3 deaths -- and high cholesterol continues to be a major risk factor," Dr. Carla Mercado, a scientist in the CDC's Division for Heart Disease and Stroke Prevention, said in a press release. "This study reveals opportunities to reduce existing disparities through targeted patient education and cholesterol management programs," she said.

Half of people who need cholesterol-lowering drugs not getting them

The desire of Big Pharma to have everyone on medication is the motive behind this. Most of those people don't "need" statins.
 
Wow, this conspiracy is so pervasive that it has everyone on board.
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I was going to reply to this thread a couple of years ago, but then I noticed the black helicopters with 'MERCK' logos circling my house. They finally left last week.

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There's a shitload (pun intended) of myths out there about the foods we eat and their effect on our weight and health, about the medicines we take and why we should take them. Most are perpetrated by the medical field based on a variety of reasons but most reason can be directly linked to bad studies (intentionally or unintentionally arriving at desired results).
Is it a massive conspiracy by big Pharma? I seriously doubt it's a massive conspiracy by anyone, simply a result of a combination of ignorance, incompetence, intentional fabrication in some instances (money's involved) and "health ideology".
 
You might be right about this. Tooma
***I am not a doctor, I am not a dietician***

With the above disclaimer in mind, I am a Nurse and a Respiratory Therapist. I am also a specialist in a field that i cannot name because there are so few of us here in Orlando that it would be easy for anyone to track and could cause problems for myself, my employer and the hospitals that I provide services for. Suffice to say my specialization isn't in the dietary area of medicine. I do have 30 years total in Medicine, I have an extensive knowledge of the human body, and I am very familiar with the way the health industry operates.

Now, to the conspiracy.

Few people in the medical field will argue that in general, Americans are over medicated. I could go on about antibiotics and auto-immune diseases but that's another thread. This is about the conspiracy surrounding fat, cholesterol, diet, statins, and the enormous amounts of money that the pharmaceutical companies take in with them. Statins is a class of drug that is prescribed to reduce cholesterol levels in the blood.

Heart Disease is a very real and very serious problem in America. No doubt about it. Here's my beef: in all likelyhood, millions of people perhaps multiples of that are taking statins for no reason.

Overworked doctors rely on studies and best-practice models to be able to treat all the patients that they must treat daily. If they spent time running their own tests, conducting their own research, or doing extensive tracking and data gathering, not only would they have twice the work they now have, their patients would suffer. Unfortunately, studies are sometimes flawed and best-practices change often. How many times in your life have you heard doctors or studies claim that such and such is bad for you and then years down the road they say the opposite? So, in other words, patients can get prescribed a medication, or warned to avoid something, or ordered to do something else and the basis of the doctor's recommendation could be wrong.

What this leads to is this. Studies were done many years ago that linked high cholesterol to heart disease. Pharmaceutical companies developed drugs to reduce cholesterol, and produced studies that showed that their drugs reduced it. now whenever a doctor sees a high cholesterol level in his patient, he prescribes the medication. Pharmaceutical companies got rich. I am not claiming that doctors on in on a conspiracy knowingly, in fact the doctor's hands are tied in fact. But a large number of people who are on statins, don't need to be.

The 3 MAIN risks for heart disease are:

1. Family History
2. Diabetes
3. Hypertension

High cholesterol isn't even in the top three risks. It is also a fact that if you have one or more of the top three, you are at high risk for heart disease even if you are on statins.

Example:

I'm 56 years old. Both of my parents are 80 years old and neither one of them have heart disease. I do not have diabetes, my blood pressure runs low-ish. I do not smoke, I do not have a whole lot of stress in my life. I am not obese (except by bogus insurance standards) even though I want to lose weight. I am a low risk for heart disease. yet, my doctor and I disagree in the fact that he wants me to take a statin and I refuse. there is no reason for me to take the drug, and I won't.

Think of all the industries that have risen around the idea of preventing heart attacks. It boggles the mind. Health food stores, prescription pharmaceuticals, low fat foods, a bajillion versions of low fat diets, exercise equipment, herbal drugs, vitamins, vegetarianism, etc. etc.

If the truth came out about fat and cholesterol, would it ever be allowed to be known?

You might be right about this. I agree that Americans are overly reliant on prescription drugs.
 

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