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Wind and solar will be supplements to the prime sources of energy for many years. Even the most optimistic alternative energy pundits are looking at 20 to 30 years before alternative energy sources compete will coal, natural gas, and nuclear. If the costs of fossil fuels and global temperatures continue to rise, there is no doubt that fossil fuels will become secondary fuel sources. However, I doubt the world will ever do away with them altogether.Do understand the power grid?How do you have a "wind surplus" on something that doesn't produce SQUAT on thursdays and half of Sunday? You can't build out wind to a "surplus" unless you HAVE a spare nuke plant to back it up... It's all hype and fantasy..
Yeah.. Building more of it will fix those gaps in energy production. NO! -- building MORE will make those gaps WORSE and more expensive to fill.
Electric power can be added to or taken from the grid to balance out surpluses and shortages. Thus, periods of low generation in one area can be supplemented by high generation in another. Power grids can accommodate all types of generation, oil, gas, coal, solar, nuclear, wind power, and solar power. Wind provides about 2% of our electric power, solar 6%, and all forms of alternative energy about 10%.
Alternative forms of energy are only supplements to prime energy sources. Whether they become a prime source of energy depends on two main factors, increasing cost of fossil fuels and global warming.
Where Does U.S. Electricity Come From? | mapawatt
Uhhhh. I'm a senior member of IEEE with 25+ years in electronics design and Research and Development. That OK with you?
Can you accomodate a 20% change in grid supply in a manner of minutes? Do you understand that California outlawed long term contracts for power and wakes up every morning and buys whatever's left on the market? DO you have a back-up coal or nuke plant sitting idle waiting for the wind farm to brown out? What is the thermal time constant of a coal plant? What happens if you overload the grid with a wind spike?
So many questions, so little comprehension.. You (the general public) have been fed so much garbage on this fantasy that you can't even FIND reality.. Reality is --- integrating the already inefficient and unreliable wind turbines into a grid leads to MASSIVE inefficientcies in swapping sources and idling plants and paying for staff, facilities and maintenance on OTHER plants to back them up.
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Congrats on getting to the realization that wind and solar are SUPPLEMENTS. I'm heartened by that understanding.
Texas Hits New Record For Wind Power Generation | StateImpact Texas
Did it seem windy to you last night? Because at 8:41 p.m. Wednesday, the Texas grid set a new record for wind power generation, reaching 7,599 megawatts.
The previous record was set the day before, with 7,403 megawatts. Before that, the biggest day of wind power generation in Texas was Oct. 7, 2011, with 7,400 megawatts of power.
When the record was reached, wind was supplying 22 percent of the grids power. Thats not actually a record, it got up to 26 percent last December.
And we have not even began to tap the potential in Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Nebraska, and Colorado.
You can these facts?
"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."
Mark Twain
Texas Hits New Record For Wind Power Generation | StateImpact Texas
Did it seem windy to you last night? Because at 8:41 p.m. Wednesday, the Texas grid set a new record for wind power generation, reaching 7,599 megawatts.
The previous record was set the day before, with 7,403 megawatts. Before that, the biggest day of wind power generation in Texas was Oct. 7, 2011, with 7,400 megawatts of power.
When the record was reached, wind was supplying 22 percent of the grids power. Thats not actually a record, it got up to 26 percent last December.
And the following morning the output was 74 megawatts. Coal and gas fired generators came online to take up the slack.
And we have not even began to tap the potential in Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Nebraska, and Colorado.
How many people live in all those states combined, 10 million?
You can these facts?
"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."
Mark Twain
Someone who indulges in cheap ad hominems as you do is in no position to be complaining about someone else's facts.
for those of you in favor of the windmills, answer this;
if its such a wonderful source of energy why are the subsidies needed. If it was so great wouldn't the big power companies be rushing to cash in on it, even without subsidies?
just sayin'.......
And why are we subsidizing oil and coal? Just sayin'.
Wind and solar will be supplements to the prime sources of energy for many years. Even the most optimistic alternative energy pundits are looking at 20 to 30 years before alternative energy sources compete will coal, natural gas, and nuclear. If the costs of fossil fuels and global temperatures continue to rise, there is no doubt that fossil fuels will become secondary fuel sources. However, I doubt the world will ever do away with them altogether.
Both sun and wind power is always in constant supply somewhere, making it a dependable source of energy. Supercapcitors can be combined with solar power and nuclear power to eliminate much of the variability in supply. I have no doubt that our grids will change to accommodate local changes in supply as they do demand.
An electric double-layer capacitor (EDLC), also known as supercapacitor, supercondenser, electrochemical double layer capacitor, or ultracapacitor, is an electrochemical capacitor with relatively high energy density. Their energy density is typically hundreds of times greater than conventional electrolytic capacitors.Wind and solar will be supplements to the prime sources of energy for many years. Even the most optimistic alternative energy pundits are looking at 20 to 30 years before alternative energy sources compete will coal, natural gas, and nuclear. If the costs of fossil fuels and global temperatures continue to rise, there is no doubt that fossil fuels will become secondary fuel sources. However, I doubt the world will ever do away with them altogether.
Both sun and wind power is always in constant supply somewhere, making it a dependable source of energy. Supercapcitors can be combined with solar power and nuclear power to eliminate much of the variability in supply. I have no doubt that our grids will change to accommodate local changes in supply as they do demand.
"Super capacitors?" Where do you find these mythical devices, in the hardware store alongside the perpetual motion machines?
Green energy is a fantasy, and you just proved it.
Texas Hits New Record For Wind Power Generation | StateImpact Texas
Did it seem windy to you last night? Because at 8:41 p.m. Wednesday, the Texas grid set a new record for wind power generation, reaching 7,599 megawatts.
The previous record was set the day before, with 7,403 megawatts. Before that, the biggest day of wind power generation in Texas was Oct. 7, 2011, with 7,400 megawatts of power.
When the record was reached, wind was supplying 22 percent of the grids power. Thats not actually a record, it got up to 26 percent last December.
And the following morning the output was 74 megawatts. Coal and gas fired generators came online to take up the slack.
And we have not even began to tap the potential in Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Nebraska, and Colorado.
How many people live in all those states combined, 10 million?
Now Pattycake, see those steel towers marching across the horizon? And the aluminium cables they carry? They are called transmission lines, and they carry electricity for many hundreds of miles. Not exactly a new invention.
A. Wind Energy
The inherent variability of the power output is the most
significant difference between wind and traditional power
generators. This variability occurs at various time scales:
seconds, hours, days, months, and years. As loads are also
uncertain and variable, the issue of wind power variability
does not cause major problems at low wind energy penetration
levels, but at deep penetration levels it presents major
engineering, economic and societal challenges. Recently, the
National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), has released
two major reports [17], [21] on integration of large amounts
of wind power (20-30%) into the Eastern and Western electric
grid interconnections in North America. These studies show
that limitations on the transmission system, increased need for
reserves, impact of unpredicted large ramps, limited accuracy
in wind forecasting, coordination among and conflicting objectives
of independent power producers, system operators, and
regulatory agencies, are some of the major issues in achieving
increased penetration of wind and solar energy.
An electric double-layer capacitor (EDLC), also known as supercapacitor, supercondenser, electrochemical double layer capacitor, or ultracapacitor, is an electrochemical capacitor with relatively high energy density. Their energy density is typically hundreds of times greater than conventional electrolytic capacitors.Wind and solar will be supplements to the prime sources of energy for many years. Even the most optimistic alternative energy pundits are looking at 20 to 30 years before alternative energy sources compete will coal, natural gas, and nuclear. If the costs of fossil fuels and global temperatures continue to rise, there is no doubt that fossil fuels will become secondary fuel sources. However, I doubt the world will ever do away with them altogether.
Both sun and wind power is always in constant supply somewhere, making it a dependable source of energy. Supercapcitors can be combined with solar power and nuclear power to eliminate much of the variability in supply. I have no doubt that our grids will change to accommodate local changes in supply as they do demand.
"Super capacitors?" Where do you find these mythical devices, in the hardware store alongside the perpetual motion machines?
Green energy is a fantasy, and you just proved it.
Maxwell Ultracapcitors are now being used for smoothing and storage of energy output of wind turbines.
Electric double-layer capacitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The specific energy of existing commercial EDLCs ranges from around 0.5 to 30 W·h/kg[28][29] including lithium ion capacitors, known also as a "hybrid capacitor". Experimental electric double-layer capacitors have demonstrated specific energies of 30 W·h/kg and have been shown to be scalable to at least 136 W·h/kg.[30][31] For comparison, a conventional lead-acid battery stores typically 30 to 40 W·h/kg and modern lithium-ion batteries about 160 W·h/kg. Gasoline has a net calorific value (NCV) of around 12,000 W·h/kg;
