It would seem that, despite its claims to the contrary, they Bush administration had information and advice that the use of torture was counter productive. But history has borne that out repeatedly. The memo cited by the Levin report is the Joint Personnel Recovery Agency, which is responsible for SERE training for US forces. The JPRA memo states it thus: BUt, of course there are those syncophants, cronies, apologists and former members of the Bush administration who continue to forward the notion that in a "ticking time bomb" scenario, torture would provide the needed intel in the most expeditious manner. The JPRA memo contradicts this notion... This memo did not see the light of day until it was released yesterday. And then there was Phillip Zelikow, a counselor at the Department of State, and a deputy to Secretary Rice, from 2005-2007. Upon gaining access to the Bybee/Yoo memos in 2005, he wrote a brief declaring the positions in those memos to be gravely flawed. He went on to say, This active suppression of dissenting opinion was nothing new to the Bush administration. Knowing as they did, however, that the use of torture in interrogations produces unreliable information leave one to wonder at the true motives of the Bush administration in pursuing this policy of deliberate policy of torture. One of the key uses of torture throughout history has been to elicit confessions...false confessions...which is why any evidence obtained through such coercive measures is inadmissible in courts of law. How much of this activity by the Bush administration was aimed at securing just such false confessions? Confessions aimed at establishing a link between 9/11 and Iraq that did not exist...A link to further justify the US invasion of Iraq. This is why Dick Cheney is opening his foetid pie-hole in an attempt to head off any investigation into the matter. This is why Cheney is asking for the very narrow declassification and release of information about the supposed efficacy of torture, even as his timeline on the matter doesn't coincide with the actual progression of events. Cheney, being the fear driven little bastard that he is, is scared shitless that he and/or his undelings will be hed accountable for their actions.