The EU's Pathetic Stance On Turkey, And How It Undermines Arab Reform

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    no doubt about it, the model for arab nations and peoples to follow for democratic government is turkey. too bad the euros are intent on ruining the heroic efforts of turkey's leadership to modernize and reform their nation. (Though the Turks opposed us on Iraq, we must remember their situation was far different from France, Germany or Russia. They have a deep history of antagonism and problems with the peoples of Iraq, unlike the previous mentioned rogues, who only made money off the iraqi people's suffering.) Turkey is still a good and very important ally of the US.

     
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    You foregt one big big nation in the "rogues nation who only made money off the iraqi people's suffering." : USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

    You have the links in WOT's threads.
     
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    You want links ? go to WOT's threads !
    ALi puted here several links about USA's weapons trade with Iraq.
     
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    Is ali your Siamese twin-----figure out how to do things yourself!!!!!!
     
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    hey padisha, why are you french so scared of turkey joining the EU?

    you talk a big game about caring about the future of arabs and the need for fairness in int'l relations, yet france is one of the biggest opponents of a moderate and democratic muslim nation joining with the rest of europe?
     
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    Europe - I mean here EU - has now 25 memebers. The 10 news are less rich than the other. Eu will do effort to well integrate them. No problem about it.
    But the entrance of a new member now, it would be maybe too much, for the moment : EU was not made in 10 yaers :
    1957 : 6 countries (France, Germany, Italy, Beligium, Netherlands, Luxembourg )
    1973 : UK, Eire, Denmark
    1981 : Greece, Spain, Portugal
    1995 : Austria, Sweden, Finland
    2004: 10 news.
    Wait and see, for an other member....



    For Turkey : Turkey has a near-east civilization.
    And Turkey was not In Europe, in History : In vasions made that Turkey was in Europe : 1453, fall of Constatinople.


    To belong to Eu, you should respect some things : a country who want to do a law against the adulterous, who want to PUNISH the people who do an adulterous, it is not the EU conception of democracy and induvidual liberties.
    The private life had to be protected.


    For myself, I'm not right behind the admission of Turkey in EU, but not right against...

    I'll see.
    Now,it is too early.
    But if Turkey is not more democratic....it wll be hard for it to go into EU.
     
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    How much more democratic do you need Turkey to be?
     
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    Shouldn't that fall under cultural traditions? That's not very multi-cultural of you to reject them simply based on that aspect of their culture. Even so, as far as I know this is being debated in a democratic fashion. Shouldn't that be respected and allowed to grow? Or is the EU an Empire.

    The only EU state with better suffrage rights than Turkey is Slovenia. What about that is undemocratic?
     
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    tell the truth euros: TURKEY CAN NEVER DO ENOUGH TO GET IN THE EU!
     
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    Hey, boys, what the fuck do you care about European Union ? you only want to have a good ally in EU.


    Turkey had not law against adulterous - with pounishment for adulterous - before - or these last years - . this law changes the things.
    It is a withdraw for liberties.
     

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