The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

[Roudy]

OUTSTANDING POST. This is a subject that the entire world should be aware of. In 1948, there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are only just under 6 million of them left.

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy..."

You seem to give much creedence to the opinions of Whitbeck. Perhaps you should have checked him out first. He worked for the Saudis, lost his license to practice law here and is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. Or maybe he's just your kinda guy.

Gee, a person who is a 9-11 truther also happens to be a Jew hater that lies about Israel. So rare.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"For anyone who possesses a strong stomach and an equally strong desire to know the truth, I strongly recommend Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s new book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which makes painstakingly and painfully clear the extent to which the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homes and homeland between 1947 and 1949 was meticulously planned, programmed and documented, ruthlessly carried out and, thereafter, efficiently covered up, sanitized, erased from minds and memories and, to the extent necessary, denied."

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy and where the Israel-First Lobby starts with a distinct home-field advantage in pursuing its successful efforts to convince American public opinion that American interests and values are identical to Israeli interests and values and to make American foreign policy and America’s wars indistinguishable from Israeli foreign policy and Israel’s wars." by JOHN WHITBECK

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

Do the progroms of 1936 and 1939 find themeselves mentioned in this piece of fiction?

Are they relevant?

 

[JStone]

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy..."

You seem to give much creedence to the opinions of Whitbeck. Perhaps you should have checked him out first. He worked for the Saudis, lost his license to practice law here and is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. Or maybe he's just your kinda guy.

Gee, a person who is a 9-11 truther also happens to be a Jew hater that lies about Israel. So rare.

Even Arabs denied the invention of the fictional palestine until it was invented recently to delegitimize 3000 year old Israel. The country is Israel.

Dr. Jerold Auerbach, PhD and Master's degrees in History, Columbia University, Chairman of the History Department, Wellesley College

When the Arabs Themselves Denied There Was a Palestine

Newt Gingrich has been challenged for calling the Palestinians an “invented” people. He was accused by a spokesman for the American Task Force on Palestine of “deep historical ignorance and an irrational hostility toward Palestinian identity.” To Sabri Saidam, adviser to Palestinian Authority’s president, Mahmoud Abbas, Mr. Gingrich had displayed “extreme racism.” But the former speaker seems to know more about Palestinian history than his critics. Indeed, Palestinians have said the same thing about themselves for decades.

Testifying before the British Peel Commission in 1937, Syrian leader Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi asserted: “There is no such country as Palestine. . . . Our country was for centuries part of Syria. ‘Palestine’ is alien to us.” Prominent Arab historian Philip Hitti conceded: “There is no such thing as Palestine, absolutely not.” According to Columbia history professor Rashid Khalidi, a student of Palestinian identity, “Palestine” did not even exist until it emerged from the wreckage of World War I.

Zahir Muhsein, PLO military commander and member of its executive committee, acknowledged: “There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation.” Identification of a Palestinian state, he conceded, was merely “a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel.”

There is nothing new or wrong with being an “invented” people. The important question is whether a national identity is constructed from the distinctive experience of a people or, as the Palestinians have done, from plundering the history and heritage that belong to someone else.

Mr. Gingrich has been criticized near and far for his “invented” people observation. An Arab-Israeli Knesset member deplored his “lame and shameful comments.” Governor Romney blamed his rival for “incendiary words.” But Mr. Gingrich, as Palestinians have testified for 75 years, knows his history.

When the Arabs Themselves Denied There Was a Palestine - The New York Sun

 

[Lipush]

"For anyone who possesses a strong stomach and an equally strong desire to know the truth, I strongly recommend Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s new book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which makes painstakingly and painfully clear the extent to which the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homes and homeland between 1947 and 1949 was meticulously planned, programmed and documented, ruthlessly carried out and, thereafter, efficiently covered up, sanitized, erased from minds and memories and, to the extent necessary, denied."

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy and where the Israel-First Lobby starts with a distinct home-field advantage in pursuing its successful efforts to convince American public opinion that American interests and values are identical to Israeli interests and values and to make American foreign policy and America’s wars indistinguishable from Israeli foreign policy and Israel’s wars." by JOHN WHITBECK

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

Do the progroms of 1936 and 1939 find themeselves mentioned in this piece of fiction?

Are they relevant?

You can't ignore a complete chapter of history just because it doesn't suit your views. Of course it's relevant.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Do the progroms of 1936 and 1939 find themeselves mentioned in this piece of fiction?

Are they relevant?

You can't ignore a complete chapter of history just because it doesn't suit your views. Of course it's relevant.

Of course why such things happened would also be relevant.

 

[JStone]

Did Allah ethnically cleanse by creating the Jewish Homeland in Israel?

Quran 10:93 We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them.

Was Jesus an ethnic cleanser by being King of Israel?

John 12:13 They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna! “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! “Blessed is the king of Israel!”

 

[JakeStarkey]

"For anyone who possesses a strong stomach and an equally strong desire to know the truth, I strongly recommend Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s new book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which makes painstakingly and painfully clear the extent to which the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homes and homeland between 1947 and 1949 was meticulously planned, programmed and documented, ruthlessly carried out and, thereafter, efficiently covered up, sanitized, erased from minds and memories and, to the extent necessary, denied."

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy and where the Israel-First Lobby starts with a distinct home-field advantage in pursuing its successful efforts to convince American public opinion that American interests and values are identical to Israeli interests and values and to make American foreign policy and America’s wars indistinguishable from Israeli foreign policy and Israel’s wars." by JOHN WHITBECK

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

The eventual losers launched a war against the inevitable winners.

Jews will always kick Arab ass. Just the way it is.

No divided Jerusalem, no right of return, a two-state solution.

End of story, losers.

 

[MJB12741]

Anybody can write a book & present their take on any situation as they wish. What I have presented is documented facts. Approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in israel in 1948. And now only just under 6 million of them left. Now thats what I call call a failed genocide.

OUTSTANDING POST. This is a subject that the entire world should be aware of. In 1948, there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are only just under 6 million of them left.

"For anyone who possesses a strong stomach and an equally strong desire to know the truth, I strongly recommend Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s new book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which makes painstakingly and painfully clear the extent to which the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homes and homeland between 1947 and 1949 was meticulously planned, programmed and documented, ruthlessly carried out and, thereafter, efficiently covered up, sanitized, erased from minds and memories and, to the extent necessary, denied."

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy and where the Israel-First Lobby starts with a distinct home-field advantage in pursuing its successful efforts to convince American public opinion that American interests and values are identical to Israeli interests and values and to make American foreign policy and America’s wars indistinguishable from Israeli foreign policy and Israel’s wars." by JOHN WHITBECK

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy..."

 

[JStone]

The Romans invented the word "palestine" to call Israel during the Roman Empire and the Romans definitely ethnically cleansed "palestine" of Jews and Christians. Those lions were well-fed.

 

[Lipush]

"For anyone who possesses a strong stomach and an equally strong desire to know the truth, I strongly recommend Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s new book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which makes painstakingly and painfully clear the extent to which the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homes and homeland between 1947 and 1949 was meticulously planned, programmed and documented, ruthlessly carried out and, thereafter, efficiently covered up, sanitized, erased from minds and memories and, to the extent necessary, denied."

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy and where the Israel-First Lobby starts with a distinct home-field advantage in pursuing its successful efforts to convince American public opinion that American interests and values are identical to Israeli interests and values and to make American foreign policy and America’s wars indistinguishable from Israeli foreign policy and Israel’s wars." by JOHN WHITBECK

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

The eventual losers launched a war against the inevitable winners.

Jews will always kick Arab ass. Just the way it is.

No divided Jerusalem, no right of return, a two-state solution.

End of story, losers.

Yet people fool themselves if they believe such solution will last.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"For anyone who possesses a strong stomach and an equally strong desire to know the truth, I strongly recommend Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s new book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which makes painstakingly and painfully clear the extent to which the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homes and homeland between 1947 and 1949 was meticulously planned, programmed and documented, ruthlessly carried out and, thereafter, efficiently covered up, sanitized, erased from minds and memories and, to the extent necessary, denied."

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy and where the Israel-First Lobby starts with a distinct home-field advantage in pursuing its successful efforts to convince American public opinion that American interests and values are identical to Israeli interests and values and to make American foreign policy and America’s wars indistinguishable from Israeli foreign policy and Israel’s wars." by JOHN WHITBECK

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

The eventual losers launched a war against the inevitable winners.

Jews will always kick Arab ass. Just the way it is.

No divided Jerusalem, no right of return, a two-state solution.

End of story, losers.

"Israel was attacked by the Arabs and the Arabs lost."

Israel's greatest myth.

 

[Lipush]

"For anyone who possesses a strong stomach and an equally strong desire to know the truth, I strongly recommend Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s new book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which makes painstakingly and painfully clear the extent to which the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homes and homeland between 1947 and 1949 was meticulously planned, programmed and documented, ruthlessly carried out and, thereafter, efficiently covered up, sanitized, erased from minds and memories and, to the extent necessary, denied."

"Unfortunately, this book, published in England, is highly likely to go unreviewed and largely unnoticed in the United States, a country where objective historical truth is much less popular than "revealed truth" and pure fantasy and where the Israel-First Lobby starts with a distinct home-field advantage in pursuing its successful efforts to convince American public opinion that American interests and values are identical to Israeli interests and values and to make American foreign policy and America’s wars indistinguishable from Israeli foreign policy and Israel’s wars." by JOHN WHITBECK

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

The eventual losers launched a war against the inevitable winners.

Jews will always kick Arab ass. Just the way it is.

No divided Jerusalem, no right of return, a two-state solution.

End of story, losers.

"Israel was attacked by the Arabs and the Arabs lost."

Israel's greatest myth.

Which official state did Israel attack in 1948?

"Israel was attacked by the Arabs and the Arabs lost. That's no myth. If looking at it in a realistic eye, the suffering of today's Palestinians is nothing but the doing of their fathers and grandfathers.

Calling simply "Itbah Al Yahud" is no solution, either.

 

[Saigon]

Where oh where is this mythical palestine? I only see Israel.

The same myths, repeated again and again and again.

You know this is nonsense, and you know everyone else knows this is nonsense.

And yet here you are repeating it.

Does it not seem weird to you that as a person who has never been within a thousand miles of Israel, you lecture Israelis about their own country?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The eventual losers launched a war against the inevitable winners.

Jews will always kick Arab ass. Just the way it is.

No divided Jerusalem, no right of return, a two-state solution.

End of story, losers.

"Israel was attacked by the Arabs and the Arabs lost."

Israel's greatest myth.

Which official state did Israel attack in 1948?

"Israel was attacked by the Arabs and the Arabs lost. That's no myth. If looking at it in a realistic eye, the suffering of today's Palestinians is nothing but the doing of their fathers and grandfathers.

Calling simply "Itbah Al Yahud" is no solution, either.

Israel has said millions of times that it was attacked by Arab states and they lost. Where did these states cross into Israel. Post a 1948 map of Israel showing where these so called attacks occurred.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Arabs attack the Israelis and got their asses handed to them.

That is no myth.

The Israelis took the fruits of victory, the Arabs the ashes of defeat.

That is no myth.

There will never be any right to return, no divided Jerusalem, and there will be a two-state solution.

That is no myth.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Arabs attack the Israelis and got their asses handed to them.

That is no myth.

The Israelis took the fruits of victory, the Arabs the ashes of defeat.

That is no myth.

There will never be any right to return, no divided Jerusalem, and there will be a two-state solution.

That is no myth.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel showing where it was attacked?

 

[JakeStarkey]

False argument, Tinmore, and you know it. Move along to the other side of the wall.

 

[P F Tinmore]

False argument, Tinmore, and you know it. Move along to the other side of the wall.

Not false. Where is the evidence showing that Israel was attacked in 1948.

I have seen nothing but say so.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The evidence is conclusive the Arabs attacked the Israels, got their asses kicked, and got ran out. Whether you "have seen nothing" adds and detracts nothing from the truth. Your belief or lack of it has no effect on the facts.

 

[JStone]

Palestine doesn't exist. Palestine was the Roman name for Israel under the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire ended 1500 years ago

Israel is the only nation in the Middle East with no ethnic cleansing.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, and author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today

A Muslim In A Jewish Land

I tried very hard to find any Muslim state that has true democracy and where religious minorities are accorded equal democratic rights, but failed. The map of the Muslim world is too crowded with kings, despots, dictators, sham democrats and theocratic autocrats and the persecution of minorities is an essential part of Islamist social behavior.

Here, protected by Israel's democratic principles, the Muslim Arab citizens of Israel are afforded all the rights and privileges of Israeli citizenship. When the first elections to the Knesset were held in February 1949, Israeli Arabs were given the right to vote and to be elected along with Israeli Jews. Today, Israel's Arab citizens are accorded full civil and political rights entitled to complete participation in Israeli society. They are active in Israeli social, political and civic life and enjoy representation in Israel's Parliament, Foreign Service and judicial system.

Large Arab residences, wide spread construction activity and big cars underlined the prosperity and affluence of Palestinians living under the Star of David. The big houses owned by Arab Israelis and the amount of construction that was going on in the Arab towns exposed the falsity of propaganda that Israel discriminates against Israeli Arabs from buying lands. The Arab Waqf owns land that is for the express use and benefit of Muslim Arabs. Government land can be leased by anyone, regardless of race, religion or sex. All Arab citizens of Israel are eligible to lease government land.

On my way from the city of David to the Royal Prima hotel in Jerusalem, I asked my Palestinian taxi driver how he feels about moving to the territories under Palestinian Authority. He said that he could never think of living outside Israel. His answer blasted the myth spread by anti-Semites that Israel's Arab citizens are not happy there. Another Israeli Arab informed me that Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights. In fact, Israel is one of the few countries in the Middle East where Arab women can vote. In contrast to the non-Israeli Arab world, Arab women in Israel enjoy the same status as men. Muslim women have the right to vote and to be elected to public office. Muslim women, in fact are more liberated in Israel than in any Muslim country. Israeli law prohibits polygamy, child marriage, and the barbarity of female sexual mutilation. Moreover, I found out that there are no incidences of honor killings in Israel. The status of Muslim women in Israel is far above that of any country in the region. Israeli health standards are by far the highest in the Middle East and Israeli health institutions are freely open to all Arabs, on the same basis as they are to Jews.

Israel's Arabic press is the most vibrant and independent of any country in the region. There are more than 20 Arabic periodicals. Today, there are hundreds of Arab schools. Israeli universities are renowned centers of learning in the history and literature of the Arab Middle East.
Aware of the constraints that a non-Wahhabi is faced with while performing religious rituals in Saudi Arabia, Kiran (my wife) could not hide her surprise at the freedoms and ease with which peoples of all religions and faiths were carrying out their religious obligations at the Church of the holy Sepulcher, Garden Tomb, Sea of Galilee, newly discovered Western Wall Tunnels, Western Wall, tomb of King David and all the other holy places we visited.

My first visit to Israel has not only consolidated my belief that Israel is vital for the stability of the region but has also convinced me that the existence of Israel will one day convince the Muslims of the necessity of reformation in their theology as well as sociology. Looking at the development and transformation that the land has gone through because of the Jewish innovative spirit, hard labor and commitment to freedoms for all times to come, I am convinced that it is true that God created this earth but it is also a fact that only an Israel can keep this earth from dying.
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