The end result of the conservative revolution: Our Banana Republic

No one should feel they have the right to confiscate anyone's income. The Socialists/Progressives are simply misguided and wrong. You don't have the right to steal from fellow Citizens just because you're a miserable loser. Their whole philosophy is just so warped. I think more & more people are catching onto the Socialist/Progressive lunacy though. Their days are numbered.

Precisely. The Founders dared not to tax income directly. They rather taxed Commerce to pay for government functions that were Constitutionally mandated.

So why not promote Commerce? It was in the best interest of the citizens and Government. Somewhere along the line? Certain elements got greedy for money and Control.

This is the fight the people face against their own Government in the name of Real Liberty.

The founding fathers and for about the next ten generations policies were written that promoted industry, not commerce.

How did they do that?

By erecting high tariffs to promote INDUSTRY in AMERICA, mostly. And those tariffs were the primary source of revenue for the FEDERAL government, too.

So, if you're one of those who wants to go back to doing what the founding fathers did, then you have to be opposed to FREE TRADE as currently practiced.
 
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Opinion

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

In my reporting, I regularly travel to banana republics notorious for their inequality. In some of these plutocracies, the richest 1 percent of the population gobbles up 20 percent of the national pie.

But guess what? You no longer need to travel to distant and dangerous countries to observe such rapacious inequality. We now have it right here at home — and in the aftermath of Tuesday’s election, it may get worse.

The richest 1 percent of Americans now take home almost 24 percent of income, up from almost 9 percent in 1976. As Timothy Noah of Slate noted in an excellent series on inequality, the United States now arguably has a more unequal distribution of wealth than traditional banana republics like Nicaragua, Venezuela and Guyana.

C.E.O.’s of the largest American companies earned an average of 42 times as much as the average worker in 1980, but 531 times as much in 2001. Perhaps the most astounding statistic is this: From 1980 to 2005, more than four-fifths of the total increase in American incomes went to the richest 1 percent.
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AW!!! Liberals are spewing sour grapes.

I mean now that conservatives have taken over the House, the Governorships and the legislatures, the sea levels won't rise or fall or something, the air will become polluted, and little baby seals will all die too!

Why ponies and fluffy puppies will all be sad now, and single mothers and children will be hardest hit!

Was this just not expected?

Expect more of this as the next two years roll on!



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Opinion

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

In my reporting, I regularly travel to banana republics notorious for their inequality. In some of these plutocracies, the richest 1 percent of the population gobbles up 20 percent of the national pie.

But guess what? You no longer need to travel to distant and dangerous countries to observe such rapacious inequality. We now have it right here at home — and in the aftermath of Tuesday’s election, it may get worse.

The richest 1 percent of Americans now take home almost 24 percent of income, up from almost 9 percent in 1976. As Timothy Noah of Slate noted in an excellent series on inequality, the United States now arguably has a more unequal distribution of wealth than traditional banana republics like Nicaragua, Venezuela and Guyana.

C.E.O.’s of the largest American companies earned an average of 42 times as much as the average worker in 1980, but 531 times as much in 2001. Perhaps the most astounding statistic is this: From 1980 to 2005, more than four-fifths of the total increase in American incomes went to the richest 1 percent.
edited short please keep articles to a few paragraphs then link to the rest per rules of board, Care

AW!!! Liberals are spewing sour grapes.

I mean now that conservatives have taken over the House, the Governorships and the legislatures, the sea levels won't rise or fall or something, the air will become polluted, and little baby seals will all die too!

Why ponies and fluffy puppies will all be sad now, and single mothers and children will be hardest hit!

Was this just not expected?

Expect more of this as the next two years roll on!



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Don't forget the collapse of human civilization, and Al Gore's house using up the world's last remaining reserves of electricity. :lol:
 
Not quite, but I appreciate you're trying to use one of the great literary metaphoric fables of our civilization to make your point anyway, anyway .

If the "liberals" were crying sour grapes they'd be saying that they don't CARE about income and net worth inequity.

They'd be lying to us and themselves, but that's what they'd be saying.

Sour grapes is an expression originating from the Aesop Fable The Fox and the Grapes. It refers to envious behaviour, especially pretending to not care for something one does not or cannot have, called cognitive dissonance.

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You may not give a shit whether Gunny gets into shit for breach of copyright, but I do. It's not a complicated law. Don't paste an entire piece - surely, even you can understand that?

The rest of your drivel is dismissed as just that.... drivel. I don't reply to drivel, I wipe it up and put it in the trash.... where it belongs.

Yea, the truth always stick in the craw of right wing females, the most obtuse creeps on the planet...surely

So, Cali girl, what are your favorite female conservative idioms and words? Barefoot & pregnant, a woman's place is in the home, submissive, domesticated, docile, obedient, servile...

See, this is why I dismiss you as a fucking moron, unworthy of any real response. I am a conservative. I work for myself. I'm pretty damned successful - I own my own home, pay my own way, and do it because I choose to. No submission, no domestication.... I'm not docile, obedient or subservient to anyone.

Why is it that left wing males find it so incredibly difficult to deal with strong, independent, right wing women? I think, going on the evidence provided by left wing 'men' on this board, it is because we scare the bejeeezus out of you.

Cali girl, your haughtiness and narcissism are so deep and chronic that you are totally obtuse to them.

You have a job, a home and you worked for them...that is what we are all supposed to do Cali Girl. You get no medals. You proclaim 'I am a conservative'. Well Cali girl, you are able to 'choose' to be a conservative because you were fortunate enough to be born in a society where progressives and liberals that came before you fought and died for YOUR right to choose. The women in those pictures live in an ultra conservative culture that never had a progressive movement. Those women don't have those 'choices'

No man or woman is an island, you were not able to get to where you are all by yourself. No one is 'self' made. Someone had to feed you, change your smelly diaper, wipe your snotty nose and clothe you. Someone else had to make sure you safely crossed the road on the way to school. Others invested their time and effort to teach you and give you guidance and motivation. Your haughtiness and narcissism makes you beat your chest, but your conservatism spits in the face of the very people that gave you that right.
 
^OH MY GOD. I love how you keep 1-upping yourself with even more completely idiotic posts. sad, but entertaining. Duh, parents help when someone is an infant. Thank you captain obvious. Or should I say...captain dumbshit?

Why do you put people down who work and achieve?
Why do you want everyone to be as miserable as your pathetic existence? Maybe because you are an envious, jealous prick? Most likely.
Granted, if you ever accomplished ANYTHING in your life, you would probably pat yourself on the back.

But, you haven't. So here we are. Your logic is absolutely asinine. I love it when my peers at school bring up a "point" related to the ideology that they share with you. It is so easy to destroy them... "So if you got an A and Timmy got a C, should you both get Bs?" The answer is no. You fucking failure.

You get what you earn. That is the truth. Go attempt the real world for once, try to develop your own talents instead of trying to bring others with talent down. And just so you know, it is people with talent that wipe your envious figurative ass. You should thank them. You just seem like a lazy douche, to be honest. So many people in this country bust their ass for what they have, and then there are sniveling weasels like you that go around touting that they are greedy and you should get free shit and everyone should be subscribed to equality as defined by socialism. Wrong. Just because you are miserable, doesn't mean you have the right to bring misery onto others. That is not equal. That is just you being a baby and a loser.

Progressives have done nothing in this country but embrace and promote failure. They say they want to enhance lives but the end result is them just wanting power over peoples lives. That is the truth. The federal government's job is only what is in Article 1 Section 8 (unless amended)That's it. To deny this is to deny liberty. And to deny liberty is to embrace slavery. Fuck that. I'll choose liberty.

And I will fight (at the ballot box) morons like you until the day I die. I will not roll over and allow you and your ilk to attempt to destroy my own, and my future children's lives by limiting their opportunities to pave their own way and accomplish their own dreams. Not gonna happen while I am breathing. So get ready, assclown. The patriots are not dead.

You have a right in this country to be a complete fool, (which is your chosen career apparently) not because of leftist pigs who "fought" for it, but because of liberty loving patriots who DIED for it.
Get a life and grow up.
 
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No one should feel they have the right to confiscate anyone's income. The Socialists/Progressives are simply misguided and wrong. You don't have the right to steal from fellow Citizens just because you're a miserable loser. Their whole philosophy is just so warped. I think more & more people are catching onto the Socialist/Progressive lunacy though. Their days are numbered.

Precisely. The Founders dared not to tax income directly. They rather taxed Commerce to pay for government functions that were Constitutionally mandated.

So why not promote Commerce? It was in the best interest of the citizens and Government. Somewhere along the line? Certain elements got greedy for money and Control.

This is the fight the people face against their own Government in the name of Real Liberty.

The founding fathers and for about the next ten generations policies were written that promoted industry, not commerce.

How did they do that?

By erecting high tariffs to promote INDUSTRY in AMERICA, mostly. And those tariffs were the primary source of revenue for the FEDERAL government, too.

So, if you're one of those who wants to go back to doing what the founding fathers did, then you have to be opposed to FREE TRADE as currently practiced.

i dont think there's any turning back to that era, nor do i think the founder's ideas on taxation would cut it in the 21st century. by the end of the 19th century, they were already toast. the trick is in recognizing the inflationary implications in having tariffs and quotas on labor and on commerce at the same time. perhaps its about recognizing tariffs don't promote industry, and commerce does.
 
Liberty, not everyone who can appreciate the case for how the developed world works is a loser. there are plenty who loathe entitlements without recognizing the extent that their asses are also wiped by them, to speak at your level. among them, there's plenty a loser whose significance in the system as they see it is moot. as to your patriotism-act, if it only affirms half of american history and less than half of the american populace, maybe, and from my perspective, it is uninformed half-assed patriotism.
 
No one has the right to steal from fellow Citizens. It doesn't matter how much of a Loser you are,you don't have the right to demand others' hard-earned income. That's not what this Nation is all about. Socialists/Progressives are just wrong. Stealing really is just plain wrong and it doesn't matter how much whiny Socialists/Progressives try to spin it. End of story.
 
don't pay your taxes if you don't agree with how they are spent. evade the law, go to jail or leave the country. no big deal. nobody is stealing from anyone. the government is spending tax and other revenues the way policy dictates.
 
don't pay your taxes if you don't agree with how they are spent. evade the law, go to jail or leave the country. no big deal. nobody is stealing from anyone. the government is spending tax and other revenues the way policy dictates.

Socialists/Progressives can spin all they like but stealing is stealing. Redistribution is theft. That's not what our Founding Fathers wanted.
 
^OH MY GOD. I love how you keep 1-upping yourself with even more completely idiotic posts. sad, but entertaining. Duh, parents help when someone is an infant. Thank you captain obvious. Or should I say...captain dumbshit?

Why do you put people down who work and achieve?
Why do you want everyone to be as miserable as your pathetic existence? Maybe because you are an envious, jealous prick? Most likely.
Granted, if you ever accomplished ANYTHING in your life, you would probably pat yourself on the back.

But, you haven't. So here we are. Your logic is absolutely asinine. I love it when my peers at school bring up a "point" related to the ideology that they share with you. It is so easy to destroy them... "So if you got an A and Timmy got a C, should you both get Bs?" The answer is no. You fucking failure.

You get what you earn. That is the truth. Go attempt the real world for once, try to develop your own talents instead of trying to bring others with talent down. And just so you know, it is people with talent that wipe your envious figurative ass. You should thank them. You just seem like a lazy douche, to be honest. So many people in this country bust their ass for what they have, and then there are sniveling weasels like you that go around touting that they are greedy and you should get free shit and everyone should be subscribed to equality as defined by socialism. Wrong. Just because you are miserable, doesn't mean you have the right to bring misery onto others. That is not equal. That is just you being a baby and a loser.

Progressives have done nothing in this country but embrace and promote failure. They say they want to enhance lives but the end result is them just wanting power over peoples lives. That is the truth. The federal government's job is only what is in Article 1 Section 8 (unless amended)That's it. To deny this is to deny liberty. And to deny liberty is to embrace slavery. Fuck that. I'll choose liberty.

And I will fight (at the ballot box) morons like you until the day I die. I will not roll over and allow you and your ilk to attempt to destroy my own, and my future children's lives by limiting their opportunities to pave their own way and accomplish their own dreams. Not gonna happen while I am breathing. So get ready, assclown. The patriots are not dead.

You have a right in this country to be a complete fool, (which is your chosen career apparently) not because of leftist pigs who "fought" for it, but because of liberty loving patriots who DIED for it.
Get a life and grow up.

Thank you for the interesting insight, but it's not an insight into me or my life. You don't know me. So it is really a self portrait authored by you.

I have accomplished a lot in life, but I don't pat myself on the back or brag about it. That's not the way I was raised. And on this board it is meaningless. I come here with my ideas and beliefs. If you disagree, then show me how yours are better.

I didn't put down what she achieved. But conservatives always want to preach about what is common knowledge and the things we learned from the time we were kids.

The truth is without progressives, liberals and the progressive movement Cali girl and all women would be still considered second class citizens. She wouldn't own her own home, she'd be washing clothes to earn a dowry, unable to vote and promised by her father to the 500 lb banker with BO or whoever her father chose, not her. What I put her down for is not appreciating the progressives and liberals who fought and even died for her right to be where she is at today.

Here's what I don't understand. We all learn right from wrong at an early age. Yet it is conservatives who can seem to find a reason to justify someone that does something wrong or unethical simply because they are 'successful' or rich. Why is that?
 
The deliberate equalization of standards is all but impossible....tell me where it has ever really worked...

But hey gotta give your boy his props....he's doing his darndest to wipe out the rich...and the middle class.....so most everybody is equally wretched....here comes the "Banana Republic"....

Boy?

I figured a lib would zero in on that....typical...but it's fun to irritate you...

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Honestly, you right wingers, you amaze me. Seriously.

This is why being against education and common sense is what will bring this country down.

For the right, everything is "either/or". There is no common ground. This is why Obama should give up trying to compromise with them. They are simply not capable of seeing beyond black and white.

Either all of the wealth of the nation should reside in the hands of the top 2% or we are all doomed to attempt to divide every copper penny 320 million ways. They are simply not capable of seeing beyond the "either/or" "black/white" scenario. This is why they have no suggestions or policies. Because, in their tiny minds, there is no choice. It's either "this" or "that".

I imagine most of us are products of the public education system.....:lol:

Obama is not going to compromise anything....unless he is dragged kicking and screaming...

The only reason Obama is now asking for "compromise" is because he wants the opposition to give in to HIM...

Redistribution of wealth is almost impossible to be fair about.....please describe how you think it can be done fairly so that everyone gets an equal share....? Because everyone has their own idea as to what is "fair" it can't be done unless there is force...that is why socialism/communism always boils down to force...

We have plenty of suggestions and policies.....beginning with adherence to the Constitution and the belief that individuals are entitled to persue their own happiness and wealth and are entitled to keeping what they make....not being forced to shell it out to others....

These principles have created the richest, most prosperous nation in the history of the world. The "poor" of our country are rich compared to the well-off in other countries. This is because America is free and not limited and stifled....Americans increase the size of the pie so everybody gets bigger pieces...

Either/or
Black or white
Up or down
Yes or no

Republicans and right wingers are the most binary people who have ever existed.
 
don't pay your taxes if you don't agree with how they are spent. evade the law, go to jail or leave the country. no big deal. nobody is stealing from anyone. the government is spending tax and other revenues the way policy dictates.

Socialists/Progressives can spin all they like but stealing is stealing. Redistribution is theft. That's not what our Founding Fathers wanted.

You are so right. Moving money from the Middle Class and concentrating it in the hands of a few is stealing. Especially since that few, for the most part, doesn't join the military or put their lives on the line for a country where they could concentrate that money.

No bid contracts in Iraq. 2.4 trillion dollar tax cut with 52% going to the top 1%. The most massive redistribution of wealth in history.
 
don't pay your taxes if you don't agree with how they are spent. evade the law, go to jail or leave the country. no big deal. nobody is stealing from anyone. the government is spending tax and other revenues the way policy dictates.

Socialists/Progressives can spin all they like but stealing is stealing. Redistribution is theft. That's not what our Founding Fathers wanted.

You are so right. Moving money from the Middle Class and concentrating it in the hands of a few is stealing. Especially since that few, for the most part, doesn't join the military or put their lives on the line for a country where they could concentrate that money.

No bid contracts in Iraq. 2.4 trillion dollar tax cut with 52% going to the top 1%. The most massive redistribution of wealth in history.

So some fellow Americans got rich? What's your point? Just because you're a Loser,doesn't mean you have the right to demand the confiscation of their income. Some fellow Americans got rich. We should all be celebrating this. Being a perpetual Loser doesn't give you any special rights or privileges. You don't have the right to steal from fellow American Citizens. Socialism/Communism just doesn't work. It is what it is.
 
don't pay your taxes if you don't agree with how they are spent. evade the law, go to jail or leave the country. no big deal. nobody is stealing from anyone. the government is spending tax and other revenues the way policy dictates.

Socialists/Progressives can spin all they like but stealing is stealing. Redistribution is theft. That's not what our Founding Fathers wanted.
the framers were wiser than to presume that their grip on economics would stand for the posterity they referred to in the opening words of the constitution itself. that wisdom escapes you.

luckily, our lawmakers have long enabled those policies which constitute developed economics. we've just got to pay the cost of dragging ignorant ingrates like yourself along the way.
 

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