The end result of the conservative revolution: Our Banana Republic

We see this sore-loserism after every election.

Obama wins, the right goes "Oh NOES!! SOCIALISM! NO RIGHTS! GAYS! HIPPIES!"

Republicans win the house, the left goes "Oh NOES!! BANANA REPUBLIC, OLIGARCHY! FASCISM!"


*yawn*

Except the Right was correct: Gov't takeover of private enterprise. Further erosion of constitutional protections. Marxists in the administration.
The Left just trots out their usual stalking horses, all of them proven wrong.

No. They weren't.

We are not a socialist nation. We have not lost any constitutionally guaranteed rights.

We have been slipping toward socialism like we are on a "bannana" peel.... its getting to a tipping point, and this administration has brought "wiping their ass with The Constitution" to a whole new level.
Bush was'nt perfect, but nothing near as bad as it is now...

Just my .02 cents
 
No one should feel they have the right to confiscate anyone's income. The Socialists/Progressives are simply misguided and wrong. You don't have the right to steal from fellow Citizens just because you're a miserable loser. Their whole philosophy is just so warped. I think more & more people are catching onto the Socialist/Progressive lunacy though. Their days are numbered.

No one should feel they have the right to confiscate anyone's income. The Socialists/Progressives are simply misguided and wrong. You don't have the right to steal from fellow Citizens just because you're a miserable loser. Their whole philosophy is just so warped. I think more & more people are catching onto the Socialist/Progressive lunacy though. Their days are numbered.

Precisely. The Founders dared not to tax income directly. They rather taxed Commerce to pay for government functions that were Constitutionally mandated.

So why not promote Commerce? It was in the best interest of the citizens and Government. Somewhere along the line? Certain elements got greedy for money and Control.

This is the fight the people face against their own Government in the name of Real Liberty.

Amen.... :clap2:
 
Yes, the election of the GOP to the House and many state governments means we are headed for Paraguay.
Where do people get this shit? The OP is so absurd refuting it would be like shooting fish in a barrel.
Why do liberals fixate on "income distribution"? What is their solution, other than "redistribution"?

Why does your poor ass care? You don't have any money.

Why is the right "fixated" on "income concentration" for a few people they don't know and will never meet?

The deliberate equalization of standards is all but impossible....tell me where it has ever really worked...

But hey gotta give your boy his props....he's doing his darndest to wipe out the rich...and the middle class.....so most everybody is equally wretched....here comes the "Banana Republic"....
 
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bfgrn, here is the difference. you judge conservatives based on what non conservatives say and do. conservatives judge liberals based on what liberals themselves say and do.

you don't even understand the definition of these words it seems as conservatism can mean different things in different countries. same with any other politically based descriptive term. in america the modern definition of conservative means a literal interpretation of the constitution and the support of the rule of law. that is it. nothing more, nothing less. if you still disagree with that and continue to cite people who are as baseless as yourself, then you truly are lost.

I know what conservatives used to believe, but they are becoming extinct. I recall great conservatives like Everett Dirksen and Barry Goldwater. But what has permeated the 'conservative' movement and the Republican party today is authoritarianism. And that is not just my observation, it is the observation of many true conservatives.

Invasion of the Party Snatchers

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By Victor Gold - speechwriter and senior adviser to President George H. W. Bush

After four decades as a Republican insider, Victor Gold reveals how the holy-rollers and the Neo-Cons have destroyed the GOP. Now he's fighting to get his party back.

As a man who served as press aide to Barry Goldwater and speechwriter and senior advisor to George H. W. Bush (in addition to co-authoring his autobiography), Victor Gold is absolutely furious that the Neo-Cons and their strange bedfellows, the Evangelical Right, have stolen his party from him. Now he is bringing the fight to them.

Invasion of the Party Snatchers is a blistering critique not only of the Bush-Cheney administration but also of the Republican Congress. Gold is ready to tell all about the war being waged for the soul of the GOP, including the elder Bush's opinion of his sons work domestically and abroad, the significance of the newly elected Congress, and how Goldwater would have reacted to it all. Gold reveals, among other explosive disclosures, how George W. has been manipulated by his vice president and secretary of defense to become, in Lenin's famous phrase, a "useful idiot" for Neo-Conservative warmongers and Theo-Conservative religious fanatics.

Although there have been other books by dissident Republicans attacking the Bush-Cheney administrations betrayal of conservative principles, none have been by an insider whose political credentials include inner-circle status with Barry Goldwater and George H. W. Bush.

Review:
"Make no mistake: author Gold, a former speechwriter for George H.W. Bush and aide to Barry Goldwater, is one disgusted Republican. The GOP of the 2006 midterm election, he writes, is 'a party of pork-barrel ear-markers like Dennis Hastert, of political hatchet men like Karl Rove, and of Bible-thumping hypocrites like Tom Delay.' Gold looks to Goldwater, 'a straight-talking, freethinking maverick,' as the yardstick by which to measure just how far the party of Lincoln has fallen.

He traces the beginning of the end to the 1980 Republican National Convention and the presence of 'a militant new element...personified by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.' The other half of the equation, the neoconservatives, are embodied by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, 'two cuts from the same Machiavellian cloth.' In efficient prose, Gold scrutinizes a significant swath of recent GOP history, in particular Newt Gingrich's 104th Congress and the Bush II White House, without losing momentum.

He also has choice words for 'the Coulterization of Republican rhetoric,' the revolving door between Capitol Hill and K Street, and 'sideshow' legislation like the Flag Protection Amendment. Gold sees a promising future for the Republican Party, but not until they lose some major elections and are able to keep down a slice of humble pie; for those disillusioned with the state of the GOP, this quick, uncompromising polemic provides substantial support, along with a large dose of cold comfort." Publishers Weekly (Starred Review) (Copyright Reed Business Information, Inc.)

Synopsis:
The last real Goldwater conservative in America attacks the current state of his movement and his party.
Powell's Books - Invasion of the Party Snatchers: How the Holy-Rollers and Neo-Cons Destroyed the GOP by Victor Gold



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Victor Gold grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana, where he attended the public schools, and Tulane University. After working as a reporter-correspondent for the BIRMINGHAM (Alabama) NEWS, he earned his law degree (J.D.) from the University of Alabama. He served in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, 1950-52.

In 1958 he moved to Washington, D.C., and joined the public relations firm of Selvage & Lee. Six years later he became Deputy Press Secretary to Senator Barry Goldwater during the 1964 presidential campaign.

In 1965 Gold opened his own political public relations firm in Washington, listing among his clients then-Republican House leader Gerald Ford and Senator Bob Dole. At the Republican conventions of 1968 and 1976 he worked with press secretary Lyn Nofziger on behalf of the presidential candidacy of then-California Governor Ronald Reagan. During the Nixon administration he served as press secretary to Vice President Spiro T. Agnew until January, 1973.

In 1980 Gold joined the staff of Republican presidential candidate George H. W. Bush as a speechwriter and senior advisor, a position he held during the Reagan-Bush campaigns of '80 and '84. He served on the Bush vice-presidential staff in 1981, and as a Bush advisor in the campaigns of 1988 and 1992. In 1992 he received the Distinguished Achievement Award for Political Communication from his alma mater, the University of Alabama.

In 1989 Gold served as a member of President Bush's election-oversight delegation to the first free Romanian elections.

A frequent speaker on the national political and campus circuits, Gold has also appeared on numerous network television shows. His articles, covering politics and sports, have appeared in NEWSWEEK, HARPER'S, ATLANTIC MONTHLY, PLAYBOY, CONNOISSEUR, READERS' DIGEST, NATIONAL REVIEW, THE WEEKLY STANDARD, NEW REPUBLIC, THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, and THE WASHINGTON POST.

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the Republican party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
Barry Goldwater

There's a new Sheriff in town in regard to the GOP. Wake up and stop living in the past. Republicans are on probation.

Statists as you are merely rejected outright. :eusa_hand:

But what has permeated the 'conservative' movement and the Republican party today is authoritarianism.

There's a new Sheriff in town in regard to the GOP. Wake up and stop living in the past.

I rest my case...

NEXT...
 
A Loser is a Loser. It wont matter how much you punish those "Evil Rich People." Miserable Losers will continue to be miserbale Losers. They'll always be bitchin about something because that's what a Loser life is all about in the end. They just can't accept that being a Loser is all their own doing. So they feel a desperate need to punish others by stealing from them. Socialists/Progressives really are just criminals at the end of the day. Thank God most are catching on though. Their days really are numbered.
 
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I know what conservatives used to believe, but they are becoming extinct. I recall great conservatives like Everett Dirksen and Barry Goldwater. But what has permeated the 'conservative' movement and the Republican party today is authoritarianism. And that is not just my observation, it is the observation of many true conservatives.

Invasion of the Party Snatchers

9781402208416-m.gif


By Victor Gold - speechwriter and senior adviser to President George H. W. Bush

After four decades as a Republican insider, Victor Gold reveals how the holy-rollers and the Neo-Cons have destroyed the GOP. Now he's fighting to get his party back.

As a man who served as press aide to Barry Goldwater and speechwriter and senior advisor to George H. W. Bush (in addition to co-authoring his autobiography), Victor Gold is absolutely furious that the Neo-Cons and their strange bedfellows, the Evangelical Right, have stolen his party from him. Now he is bringing the fight to them.

Invasion of the Party Snatchers is a blistering critique not only of the Bush-Cheney administration but also of the Republican Congress. Gold is ready to tell all about the war being waged for the soul of the GOP, including the elder Bush's opinion of his sons work domestically and abroad, the significance of the newly elected Congress, and how Goldwater would have reacted to it all. Gold reveals, among other explosive disclosures, how George W. has been manipulated by his vice president and secretary of defense to become, in Lenin's famous phrase, a "useful idiot" for Neo-Conservative warmongers and Theo-Conservative religious fanatics.

Although there have been other books by dissident Republicans attacking the Bush-Cheney administrations betrayal of conservative principles, none have been by an insider whose political credentials include inner-circle status with Barry Goldwater and George H. W. Bush.

Review:
"Make no mistake: author Gold, a former speechwriter for George H.W. Bush and aide to Barry Goldwater, is one disgusted Republican. The GOP of the 2006 midterm election, he writes, is 'a party of pork-barrel ear-markers like Dennis Hastert, of political hatchet men like Karl Rove, and of Bible-thumping hypocrites like Tom Delay.' Gold looks to Goldwater, 'a straight-talking, freethinking maverick,' as the yardstick by which to measure just how far the party of Lincoln has fallen.

He traces the beginning of the end to the 1980 Republican National Convention and the presence of 'a militant new element...personified by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.' The other half of the equation, the neoconservatives, are embodied by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, 'two cuts from the same Machiavellian cloth.' In efficient prose, Gold scrutinizes a significant swath of recent GOP history, in particular Newt Gingrich's 104th Congress and the Bush II White House, without losing momentum.

He also has choice words for 'the Coulterization of Republican rhetoric,' the revolving door between Capitol Hill and K Street, and 'sideshow' legislation like the Flag Protection Amendment. Gold sees a promising future for the Republican Party, but not until they lose some major elections and are able to keep down a slice of humble pie; for those disillusioned with the state of the GOP, this quick, uncompromising polemic provides substantial support, along with a large dose of cold comfort." Publishers Weekly (Starred Review) (Copyright Reed Business Information, Inc.)

Synopsis:
The last real Goldwater conservative in America attacks the current state of his movement and his party.
Powell's Books - Invasion of the Party Snatchers: How the Holy-Rollers and Neo-Cons Destroyed the GOP by Victor Gold



profile_pic2.jpg



Victor Gold grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana, where he attended the public schools, and Tulane University. After working as a reporter-correspondent for the BIRMINGHAM (Alabama) NEWS, he earned his law degree (J.D.) from the University of Alabama. He served in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, 1950-52.

In 1958 he moved to Washington, D.C., and joined the public relations firm of Selvage & Lee. Six years later he became Deputy Press Secretary to Senator Barry Goldwater during the 1964 presidential campaign.

In 1965 Gold opened his own political public relations firm in Washington, listing among his clients then-Republican House leader Gerald Ford and Senator Bob Dole. At the Republican conventions of 1968 and 1976 he worked with press secretary Lyn Nofziger on behalf of the presidential candidacy of then-California Governor Ronald Reagan. During the Nixon administration he served as press secretary to Vice President Spiro T. Agnew until January, 1973.

In 1980 Gold joined the staff of Republican presidential candidate George H. W. Bush as a speechwriter and senior advisor, a position he held during the Reagan-Bush campaigns of '80 and '84. He served on the Bush vice-presidential staff in 1981, and as a Bush advisor in the campaigns of 1988 and 1992. In 1992 he received the Distinguished Achievement Award for Political Communication from his alma mater, the University of Alabama.

In 1989 Gold served as a member of President Bush's election-oversight delegation to the first free Romanian elections.

A frequent speaker on the national political and campus circuits, Gold has also appeared on numerous network television shows. His articles, covering politics and sports, have appeared in NEWSWEEK, HARPER'S, ATLANTIC MONTHLY, PLAYBOY, CONNOISSEUR, READERS' DIGEST, NATIONAL REVIEW, THE WEEKLY STANDARD, NEW REPUBLIC, THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, and THE WASHINGTON POST.

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the Republican party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
Barry Goldwater

There's a new Sheriff in town in regard to the GOP. Wake up and stop living in the past. Republicans are on probation.

Statists as you are merely rejected outright. :eusa_hand:

But what has permeated the 'conservative' movement and the Republican party today is authoritarianism.

There's a new Sheriff in town in regard to the GOP. Wake up and stop living in the past.

I rest my case...

NEXT...

Wrong idiot. Try the Constitution.

*NEXT*
 
I've been waiting for a conservative revolution since the first Bush. When it starts, let me know.
 
I know what conservatives used to believe, but they are becoming extinct. I recall great conservatives like Everett Dirksen and Barry Goldwater. But what has permeated the 'conservative' movement and the Republican party today is authoritarianism. And that is not just my observation, it is the observation of many true conservatives.

Invasion of the Party Snatchers

9781402208416-m.gif


By Victor Gold - speechwriter and senior adviser to President George H. W. Bush

After four decades as a Republican insider, Victor Gold reveals how the holy-rollers and the Neo-Cons have destroyed the GOP. Now he's fighting to get his party back.

As a man who served as press aide to Barry Goldwater and speechwriter and senior advisor to George H. W. Bush (in addition to co-authoring his autobiography), Victor Gold is absolutely furious that the Neo-Cons and their strange bedfellows, the Evangelical Right, have stolen his party from him. Now he is bringing the fight to them.

Invasion of the Party Snatchers is a blistering critique not only of the Bush-Cheney administration but also of the Republican Congress. Gold is ready to tell all about the war being waged for the soul of the GOP, including the elder Bush's opinion of his sons work domestically and abroad, the significance of the newly elected Congress, and how Goldwater would have reacted to it all. Gold reveals, among other explosive disclosures, how George W. has been manipulated by his vice president and secretary of defense to become, in Lenin's famous phrase, a "useful idiot" for Neo-Conservative warmongers and Theo-Conservative religious fanatics.

Although there have been other books by dissident Republicans attacking the Bush-Cheney administrations betrayal of conservative principles, none have been by an insider whose political credentials include inner-circle status with Barry Goldwater and George H. W. Bush.

Review:
"Make no mistake: author Gold, a former speechwriter for George H.W. Bush and aide to Barry Goldwater, is one disgusted Republican. The GOP of the 2006 midterm election, he writes, is 'a party of pork-barrel ear-markers like Dennis Hastert, of political hatchet men like Karl Rove, and of Bible-thumping hypocrites like Tom Delay.' Gold looks to Goldwater, 'a straight-talking, freethinking maverick,' as the yardstick by which to measure just how far the party of Lincoln has fallen.

He traces the beginning of the end to the 1980 Republican National Convention and the presence of 'a militant new element...personified by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.' The other half of the equation, the neoconservatives, are embodied by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, 'two cuts from the same Machiavellian cloth.' In efficient prose, Gold scrutinizes a significant swath of recent GOP history, in particular Newt Gingrich's 104th Congress and the Bush II White House, without losing momentum.

He also has choice words for 'the Coulterization of Republican rhetoric,' the revolving door between Capitol Hill and K Street, and 'sideshow' legislation like the Flag Protection Amendment. Gold sees a promising future for the Republican Party, but not until they lose some major elections and are able to keep down a slice of humble pie; for those disillusioned with the state of the GOP, this quick, uncompromising polemic provides substantial support, along with a large dose of cold comfort." Publishers Weekly (Starred Review) (Copyright Reed Business Information, Inc.)

Synopsis:
The last real Goldwater conservative in America attacks the current state of his movement and his party.
Powell's Books - Invasion of the Party Snatchers: How the Holy-Rollers and Neo-Cons Destroyed the GOP by Victor Gold



profile_pic2.jpg



Victor Gold grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana, where he attended the public schools, and Tulane University. After working as a reporter-correspondent for the BIRMINGHAM (Alabama) NEWS, he earned his law degree (J.D.) from the University of Alabama. He served in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, 1950-52.

In 1958 he moved to Washington, D.C., and joined the public relations firm of Selvage & Lee. Six years later he became Deputy Press Secretary to Senator Barry Goldwater during the 1964 presidential campaign.

In 1965 Gold opened his own political public relations firm in Washington, listing among his clients then-Republican House leader Gerald Ford and Senator Bob Dole. At the Republican conventions of 1968 and 1976 he worked with press secretary Lyn Nofziger on behalf of the presidential candidacy of then-California Governor Ronald Reagan. During the Nixon administration he served as press secretary to Vice President Spiro T. Agnew until January, 1973.

In 1980 Gold joined the staff of Republican presidential candidate George H. W. Bush as a speechwriter and senior advisor, a position he held during the Reagan-Bush campaigns of '80 and '84. He served on the Bush vice-presidential staff in 1981, and as a Bush advisor in the campaigns of 1988 and 1992. In 1992 he received the Distinguished Achievement Award for Political Communication from his alma mater, the University of Alabama.

In 1989 Gold served as a member of President Bush's election-oversight delegation to the first free Romanian elections.

A frequent speaker on the national political and campus circuits, Gold has also appeared on numerous network television shows. His articles, covering politics and sports, have appeared in NEWSWEEK, HARPER'S, ATLANTIC MONTHLY, PLAYBOY, CONNOISSEUR, READERS' DIGEST, NATIONAL REVIEW, THE WEEKLY STANDARD, NEW REPUBLIC, THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, and THE WASHINGTON POST.

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the Republican party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
Barry Goldwater

There's a new Sheriff in town in regard to the GOP. Wake up and stop living in the past. Republicans are on probation.

Statists as you are merely rejected outright. :eusa_hand:

But what has permeated the 'conservative' movement and the Republican party today is authoritarianism.

There's a new Sheriff in town in regard to the GOP. Wake up and stop living in the past.

I rest my case...

NEXT...

Yeah....a Sheriff that will abide by the LAW...your "case" is crap...NEXT...
 
I've been waiting for a conservative revolution since the first Bush. When it starts, let me know.

Yea that's what i've been saying. I haven't seen that "Conservative Revolution" yet. It's been all Socialism for many many years. That goes for both political parties. Lets have that Conservative Revolution first before we declare it a "Banana Republic" failure. I'm encouraged by the new direction of the Republican Party but i'll still just wait and see.
 
I've been waiting for a conservative revolution since the first Bush. When it starts, let me know.

Yea that's what i've been saying. I haven't seen that "Conservative Revolution" yet. It's been all Socialism for many many years. That goes for both political parties. Lets have that Conservative Revolution first before we declare it a "Banana Republic" failure. I'm encouraged by the new direction of the Republican Party but i'll still just wait and see.

They're on probation and they know it. The Statists by-and-large have been rejected. We will see. It's a fledgling start to be sure.
 
I've been waiting for a conservative revolution since the first Bush. When it starts, let me know.

Yea that's what i've been saying. I haven't seen that "Conservative Revolution" yet. It's been all Socialism for many many years. That goes for both political parties. Lets have that Conservative Revolution first before we declare it a "Banana Republic" failure. I'm encouraged by the new direction of the Republican Party but i'll still just wait and see.

They're on probation and they know it. The Statists by-and-large have been rejected. We will see. It's a fledgling start to be sure.

I think we will know just how resolute the American poeple are in the next elections... But for now, they are definately on probation in my eyes.

I dont trust them yet either. There are a few that still need to be out on their asses.
 
Yea that's what i've been saying. I haven't seen that "Conservative Revolution" yet. It's been all Socialism for many many years. That goes for both political parties. Lets have that Conservative Revolution first before we declare it a "Banana Republic" failure. I'm encouraged by the new direction of the Republican Party but i'll still just wait and see.

They're on probation and they know it. The Statists by-and-large have been rejected. We will see. It's a fledgling start to be sure.

I think we will know just how resolute the American poeple are in the next elections... But for now, they are definately on probation in my eyes.

I dont trust them yet either. There are a few that still need to be out on their asses.

Lindsey Graham tops my list...
 
They're on probation and they know it. The Statists by-and-large have been rejected. We will see. It's a fledgling start to be sure.

I think we will know just how resolute the American poeple are in the next elections... But for now, they are definately on probation in my eyes.

I dont trust them yet either. There are a few that still need to be out on their asses.

Lindsey Graham tops my list...

Yep.... he needs to be gone like the wind.
 
Progressives think that Bush's Prescription Drug Boondoogle (Announced almost the same day Walmart announced they were selling scripts for $4/bottle) and letting that Fat Fucking Murderer Ted Kennedy write the Education Bill ARE Conservative
 
They're on probation and they know it. The Statists by-and-large have been rejected. We will see. It's a fledgling start to be sure.

I think we will know just how resolute the American poeple are in the next elections... But for now, they are definately on probation in my eyes.

I dont trust them yet either. There are a few that still need to be out on their asses.

Lindsey Graham tops my list...

he and Trent Lott need to shut the Hell up. They were/are part of the problem...lest we forget Lott's 'Co-opt' statements he made if Tea Party freshmen got elected.

And lest we forget the Establishment Repubicans wanting to furnish Staff for the newbies. And that staff are those that are wise in the ways of the District Of Criminals that have already been 'Co-Opted'.

If the Newbies are wise? They'll tell the Repubican Leadership to take a hike and furnish their own staff.
 

The point went over your head, eh?

No surprise.

i've tried that before. rabbi has never heard any anglo-american kiddy stories. he just feels he should come here and dictate how the US should be run.

well i was wondering myself about the pancakes...a Little Black Sambo joke in response to Chicken Little's "the sky is falling!"........?
...hmm...with Obama in India it could be appropriate...:lol:

HOWEVER....are you implying that a legal immigrant has no say in this country......?

....I wouldn't be surprised......even though libs let ILLEGALS have THEIR say.....
 
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The point went over your head, eh?

No surprise.

i've tried that before. rabbi has never heard any anglo-american kiddy stories. he just feels he should come here and dictate how the US should be run.

well i was wondering myself about the pancakes...a Little Black Sambo joke in response to Chicken Little's "the sky is falling!"........?
...hmm...with Obama in India it could be appropriate...:lol:

HOWEVER....are you implying that a legal immigrant has no say in this country......?

....I wouldn't be surprised......even though libs let ILLEGALS have THEIR say.....

Actually I was born here. So were my parents. But whatever.
I post examples of creeping socialism (no, it doesn't happen all at once) and get a child's cartoon in response. That kind of "well reasoned" response deserves another equally off-topic image.
 

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