The end of the American dream

[rightwinger]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

http://theweek.com/article/index/22...-what-happened-to-economic-mobility-in-the-us

 

[FactFinder]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

God damned harder than it used to be , but still possible.

I have a lot of difficulty believing Europe has any advantage.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

God damned harder than it used to be , but still possible.

I have a lot of difficulty believing Europe has any advantage.

What they mean is those countries offer more safety net at the tax payers expense. More socialism for the supposed poor. More opportunities to get someone else to pay to get you out of being poor.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[FactFinder]

Did you know? FDR: Allowed Pearl Harbor to happen on his watch, FDR Depression was worse than the 7 Biblical Lean Years

The 7 biblical lean years had zero to do with any politician or man other than their corrupt spirit.

 

[occupied]

It's all but gone, the closer to the bottom you are the more energy goes into simply keeping from sliding further, never mind making headway. It is entirely too likely to end up in a stagnant hole having done nothing wrong other than forgetting to invest in a functional crystal ball.

 

[Listener2307]

..........What they mean is those countries offer more safety net at the tax payers expense. More socialism for the supposed poor. More opportunities to get someone else to pay to get you out of being poor.

The safety nets here in the U.S. rapidly become hammocks. Then, safely ensconced, the participants spend the rest of their lives sabotaging themselves so that they never have to get out......

 

[BreezeWood]

"If you work hard and play by the rules"

... it should be just if you work hard - not everyone who is poor is a Clinton Democrat or a Tea Party Republican.

 

[Avorysuds]

Let me guess, it's all Republican's fualt and Dems have tried so hard to save it but the mean ol Reps kept hammering away on them... That's why Obama repealed so many evil Republican policies with his Dem congress...

 

[FactFinder]

It's all but gone, the closer to the bottom you are the more energy goes into simply keeping from sliding further, never mind making headway. It is entirely too likely to end up in a stagnant hole having done nothing wrong other than forgetting to invest in a functional crystal ball.

Sounds like dependency. I have depended on no man. I look to God. Thus far it has been a winning proposition. Yeah, I work hard but the God I know expects me to. Yet, I do not work as hard as most cause He promised that his yoke was light. He is a "Man of His Word".

 

[occupied]

It's all but gone, the closer to the bottom you are the more energy goes into simply keeping from sliding further, never mind making headway. It is entirely too likely to end up in a stagnant hole having done nothing wrong other than forgetting to invest in a functional crystal ball.

Sounds like dependency. I have depended on no man. I look to God. Thus far it has been a winning proposition. Yeah, I work hard but the God I know expects me to. Yet, I do not work as hard as most cause He promised that his yoke was light. He is a "Man of His Word".

Glad that's working out for you but what does that have to do with anything I said?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Did you know? FDR: Allowed Pearl Harbor to happen on his watch, FDR Depression was worse than the 7 Biblical Lean Years

The 7 biblical lean years had zero to do with any politician or man other than their corrupt spirit.

Right, one man crushed the US economy worse than the 7 Biblical lean years. Thank you for finally understanding

 

[uscitizen]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

God damned harder than it used to be , but still possible.

I have a lot of difficulty believing Europe has any advantage.

What they mean is those countries offer more safety net at the tax payers expense. More socialism for the supposed poor. More opportunities to get someone else to pay to get you out of being poor.

and yet those countries are doing better than we are overall.

 

[FactFinder]

It's all but gone, the closer to the bottom you are the more energy goes into simply keeping from sliding further, never mind making headway. It is entirely too likely to end up in a stagnant hole having done nothing wrong other than forgetting to invest in a functional crystal ball.

Sounds like dependency. I have depended on no man. I look to God. Thus far it has been a winning proposition. Yeah, I work hard but the God I know expects me to. Yet, I do not work as hard as most cause He promised that his yoke was light. He is a "Man of His Word".

Glad that's working out for you but what does that have to do with anything I said?

Don't look to man to solve your problems. Most of them are only looking out for themselves. Get yourself right in front of God and all else falls in place.

 

[FactFinder]

God damned harder than it used to be , but still possible.

I have a lot of difficulty believing Europe has any advantage.

What they mean is those countries offer more safety net at the tax payers expense. More socialism for the supposed poor. More opportunities to get someone else to pay to get you out of being poor.

and yet those countries are doing better than we are overall.

Now that is damn funny

 

[occupied]

Sounds like dependency. I have depended on no man. I look to God. Thus far it has been a winning proposition. Yeah, I work hard but the God I know expects me to. Yet, I do not work as hard as most cause He promised that his yoke was light. He is a "Man of His Word".

Glad that's working out for you but what does that have to do with anything I said?

Don't look to man to solve your problems. Most of them are only looking out for themselves. Get yourself right in front of God and all else falls in place.

Don't make assumptions about the faith of other people, after all, it rains on the just and unjust alike.

 

[uscitizen]

Sounds like dependency. I have depended on no man. I look to God. Thus far it has been a winning proposition. Yeah, I work hard but the God I know expects me to. Yet, I do not work as hard as most cause He promised that his yoke was light. He is a "Man of His Word".

Glad that's working out for you but what does that have to do with anything I said?

Don't look to man to solve your problems. Most of them are only looking out for themselves. Get yourself right in front of God and all else falls in place.

You must follow behind God or burn in hell for all eternity.
God does not accept anyone in front of him.

 

[syrenn]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

And here i thought the American Dream was getting welfare, food stamps and section 8 housing.

 

[FactFinder]

Glad that's working out for you but what does that have to do with anything I said?

Don't look to man to solve your problems. Most of them are only looking out for themselves. Get yourself right in front of God and all else falls in place.

Don't make assumptions about the faith of other people, after all, it rains on the just and unjust alike.

I am not under any illusions. To each has their own will. I'm just sharing what has worked for me and I can witness that God is good!

 

[FactFinder]

Glad that's working out for you but what does that have to do with anything I said?

Don't look to man to solve your problems. Most of them are only looking out for themselves. Get yourself right in front of God and all else falls in place.

You must follow behind God or burn in hell for all eternity.
God does not accept anyone in front of him.

Sounds like a personal ego problem.