The Electric Vehicle to alleviate Energy Crisis

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    Much of the time, when the electric car is debated, most don't believe it is a feasible solution. I looked for logical approaches to implementing the EV and came across this author and speaker. I found his steps logical for today's demands and overall interesting. Prices now aren't feasible for a mass movement, but with technological advancements, I would assume they could be reduced to an affordable range. What do you think?

    Due to the fact that I do not have enough posts I cannot post a URL. However, simply go to youtube, search bradfregger, and scroll down to the "An Energy Solution Video." This is the video I refer to.
     
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    Electric vehicles sound great but how are you going to charge these vehicles without building up the infrastucture. the Greenies/enviromentalist won't allow new power plants to be constucted, unless they are wind generated and those won't work!!! Most power today is created burning fossil fuels. We need to start building Nuke power plants like in the rest of the world.
     
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    Is this the right link?

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rImKRTBwXkc]YouTube - An Energy Solution[/ame]
     
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    If you own your home, solar on the roof is a reasonable solution. With grid parrallel configuration, when you are producing more than you use, the meter runs backward. When you are useing more than you are producing, forward. That way, you would be putting power on the net at the time of highest useage, during daylight hours, and taking it off the net during the hours of least usage, at night.

    Plugin hybrids are the real answer here. A good plugin hybrid that could get 80 miles on a single charge would very seldom use gasoline for most consumers. But it would have the range for trips at a moments notice, also.
     
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    What about long distant trips. Get serious it took years for the country to switch from horse and buggies to cars and from whale oil to electricity so in the mean while when we are all waiting for this make believe, non funtioning GREEN energy source to be invented, developed and implimented why not use our current oil deposits, build some refineries and nukes in the mean while. Just imagine the numbers of jobs that would be immediatly be created by us drilling, building, refining and suppling our country with our own energy. if we built let say two or three nukes in the heaviest populated states, where jobs and low cost energy is NEEDED NOW!!!!! Jobs would be created and the economy would be on the road to recovery.
     
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    This game is about to change. The world will be a VERY, VERY different place at this time next year.

    For those of you who have not been following the eestor saga, here's a quick primer. Dave Weir, a former board member of Dell and inventor of several technologies around transistors and hard disk technology is the chief founder of Eestor. It stems from a proof of concept that he invented prior to the end of the cold war. The technology is an ultra capacitor. For those not up to speed, the problem with a battery is that it can only charge (or discharge) but so fast. (Hence long charging times). Capacitors do not have this limitation. But, so far, nobody has invented one that could store a lot of energy, maintain the charge and discharge it at will. Eestor, is in the process of breaking that barrier.

    We are now about 3 or 3 1/2 years into the Eestor story. They have significant partners in Zenn (a car company in Canada) and Lockheed Martin (who has locked up all military and homland security rights to the technology). Eestor is currently in pre-production of its eesu power units. They will deliver these to Zenn by Q 4 this year. they estimate full production to begin Q 1 2010. They are currently in testing by Underwriter's Labs (UL) for their seal of approval. Their technology has been independently verified by third-party scientists. The production uses barium inside the capacitor. This is a VERY available element as it used to be the coating inside TVs. But not used in current technology. The production lines are modular and cheap. Units costing tens of thousands not millions of dollars. The unit will begin pricing at less than Lithium Ion. It weighs less, holds more power and does not degrade over time.

    What does this mean? A car can get a full charge in less than 5 minutes. A cell phone holds 5x the power, the battery never degrades and it charges in 1 second. Power tools, roughly the same. For the grid? Simply by adding eesus to the grid, they can absorb electricity at night and push during the day. Estimates are that this will increase available power by 45%. By adding eesus to wind and solar, they can level out the grid so they wind farms and solar farms appear to produce like a coal plant. One of the first things they want to tackle is strapping these on a bike with a electric engine. (no crash testing, low barrier to market, high profits).

    This is the missing link that could change everything.
     
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    Another game changer. Voxtel, a small firm in Oregon, has a manufacturing process that reduces the cost of the Q-dots from $5000 a gram to $10 a gram. It takes about a 1/10 gram of Q-dots to make 1 square foot of solar cell. This cell will be in the neighborhood of the 40% efficient. And be created with ink jet technology. As in cheap.

    Beaverton firm will produce cheaper quantum dots - OregonLive.com
     
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    Most would charge at night during "non peak" hours. You could also put a solar panel on your house and with the right batteries you could charge your car COMPLETLY off the grid.
     
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    I have to disagree with you on this point. Hybrids take a rather simple EV and complicate it by having an IC engine. A plug in electric has about three major parts. Battery, electric motor, and control unit. The one reason the major car cos don't wnat that is because the EV needs FAR less maitinence.
     
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    When an electrically driven hybrid vehicle is not using gasoline it will be using oil or coal for the electrical charge-up. And due to the inefficiency of converting coal or oil to energy and then charging the battery, along with other side issues pertinent to inerfficiency, the amount of "oil" used for driving electrically will be greater than if it were simply refined into gasoline for driving purposes. It's a fool's errand unless the electricity is nuclear generated.
     
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