The Economist: War in Afghanistan Can Be Won

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    We've had a bit of a discussion over how and if the war in Afghanistan can be won. Here's an Economist article saying it can be won - and - it adds a 'how' dimension to the discussion...

    Read the full article here: How to stop the Taliban | A strategy for avoiding defeat | The Economist

    This is pretty much what we've talked about in Comparative International Politics (PolSci) about 6 months ago.

    Would you agree?
     
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    The Economists---Libertarians answer to FOX news(Direct and accurate, yet significantly further to the right!!)
     
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    history says not
     
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    The Soviet Union had over 160000 troops there at one time, they are next door to A Stan and their empire collapsed trying. Personally, I think it's a fool's mission, we don't have the support of the people, the terrain is for the most part unmapped and we are already experiencing the worse economic turmoil in generations, let's cut our losses, come home ,regroup and fight another day,perhaps on a more covert level.
     
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    I don't know any Libertarians who support more troops abroad, perhaps neo libertarians like Boortz.:cuckoo:
     
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    I actually know quite a number of self-labeled libertarians who are for more troops abroad...
     
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    If our goal there is to prevent al Qaeda and its affiliates from reestablishing a safe base of operations from which to launch attacks against us and our allies, then we have already won. Conversely, if that remains our goal, then if we leave and the Taliban and al Qaeda reestablish themselves in Afghanistan, then we have lost.
     
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    Actually, one should take a more comparitive look at the two conflicts--The one between Afgan and Russia with the one between the Taliban/Al qaeda and the US.

    The Russians wanted control--which meant Russifying Afghanistan and changing their identity. This lead to the fundemental clash of identity and what is considered an acceptable method of survival in Afganistan. The Russians could have won their war if it was to make Afghan a subsidary state--a state that maintain its general identity yet provide special services to the Soviets through some arrangements that does not demean Afghani's citizen or Government.

    For the US, to avoid the Russian debacle, it is better to work with the people that are Afghani's and learn their background and work within their framework of how the world works. The very concept of calling this a war tends to go against what the main goal is. Considering that we are not at war with people or their custom/culture/religion--Victory is just nation building and the removal of the Taliban and Al qaeda from power. On paper, that is not much of a task. But the execution of it has been horrendous in terms on troops numbers, focus of main objectives, and other exterior interests that actually hampers the goal.

    Except for some governmental/social infrastructure , the majority of conflicts should have ended, yet there are still serious security issues due to poor planning and desires that the troops have no control over. Is it "Winnable"? yes. Can we do it? Depends on the policys supported by the White House.
     
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    Could you please clear this up for me? Not sure of what point you're making...
     
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    Not all right wing media is full of BS?
     

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