The Dutch “basic income” experiment is expanding across multiple cities

[paravani]

dear, they call it social Darwinism. Do you understand??

I do understand that. That's what people named it, because they based it on Darwin's scientific theories. That does not make Social Darwinism itself science. It's a philosophy meant to justify killing the weak to feed the greedy.

do you want a social/economic system wherein the least fit reproduce the most??

What I actually want is a guild based economic system. That doesn't matter though. What we have now is a capitalist system with a few socialist elements, such as welfare and labor unions, put in place to fix and prevent various human rights abuses. That's what we have to work with. The least we can do is make it as humane and efficient as possible. The OP's proposal is one step to accomplish this. Yes, it comes with a price tag attached. We'll be responsible for footing the bill. Personally I think it's a worthwhile investment.

of course you are 100% stupid liberal and not fit to be here.

Luckily for me, you don't have the right to determine whether I'm fit to be here or not. You still haven't answered those four questions from the first page. They were pretty simple, or at least seemed simple enough to me.

When Clinton ended welfare as we know by making it workfare fully half decided that they no longer needed welfare.

I don't have a problem with the government employing people as a form of welfare. It worked great with TVA. What I have a problem with is requiring someone to work to receive any welfare at all. It sounds fair on paper, but then you look up at the people you're talking about and see how many are elderly, disabled, or otherwise incapable of meeting your arbitrary requirements. There's also the problem of your idea essentially transforming the poor into a slave class.

100% stupid of course. The free market is the judge!!

The question wasn't about the "free market". It was about you. Are you the judge of whether a single mother should watch her child starve to death because she fucked up her back and can't work anymore?

of course you're very stupid and liberal. Here's what Darwin said:

In The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex of 1882 Darwin described how medical advances meant that the weaker were able to survive and have families, and as he commented on the effects of this, he cautioned that hard reason should not override sympathy and considered how other factors might reduce the effect:

Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.
The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil. ... We must therefore bear the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely that the weaker and inferior members of society do not marry so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased by the weak in body or mind refraining from marriage, though this is more to be hoped for than expected.[19]

So... his feelings about preventing the poor from marrying relates to our social obligation to pay their basic costs of living how?

Really nice post, Pedro -- soundly reasoned, well-composed, articulate, with perfect grammar and spelling.

That's a big win!

-- Paravani