The Differences Between Assimilation and Multiculturalism

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    Are serious and very different, so far in which predominates in US vs. EU. Moreso on education sites, than here, the question is often raised about the lack now in civics education in the US. It's a serious problem. If we do not teach our roots of history, our next generation will not understand how we got where we are and how to keep it. It is impossible to teach American civics without Western Civ or the English legacy that helped bring about our different system.

    Assimilation involves teaching young people, born here or immigrants, the commonality of Americans. It does not require forgetting or leaving behind cultural roots, just that one understand the precepts of the American system.

    Multiculturalism on the other hand, assumes there really isn't an American culture, that all cultures are 'equal' and should be maintained. Many experts in political science, history, and sociology refer to this as 'The Balkanization' of America. (The same could be said in EU, difference is they have always emphasized this multiculturalism approach):

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pr...s/2006/08/the_bbc_and_homegrown_terroris.html

     
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    Assimilation, as you defined it above, has always been what I considered to be multi-culturalism, where the best aspects of one's native culture are nurtured and celebrated by everyone, with the worst aspects discarded. It lends a strenght and vitality to America that most monocultures lack.

    Multi-culturalism, as it is represented by the modern conservative movement in America seems little different, though less overt, from the sentiments expressed by French racist Count Joseph Arthur de Gobineau in the late 1800's. He held that "...racial intermingling spelled cultural and political decline..." It seems simply a convenient foil upon which to hang the blame for one's own personal inadequacies and failings.
     
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    Bully your depiction of 'modern conservativism movement' is hooey and you know it. You are describing xenophobes, which has nothing to do with 'modern conservativism', rather the far right.

    On the left, multiculturalism has come to mean the same as in Europe. We can see how well they are dealing with their immigrants and their immigrants are dealing with their new countries. Why would anyone want to go down that road?
     
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    Yet de Gobineau has been proved right. This cultural and political decline is exactly what's happening to the U.S., Britain and the rest of the West right now. America as a minority-white country in a few short decades will simply not be the peaceful, prosperous country it once was. It will be a Los Angeles-like warzone of barbed wire and spray paint. Corruption will explode. Whites will retreat yet further into their walled, guarded compounds, Brazil-style.

    And race has everything to do with it. "Modern conservatism" ignores the racial reality of life and is thus a pretty flaccid response to the Murder of the West.
     
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    Thanks for backing me up, I think. ;)
     
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    Unfortunately, the far right is moving into mainstream conservatism with alarming rapidity. They are usurping traditional conservative values with such bilious spew as attacks their on the straw-man of multiculturalism.

    The failure is not an issue of liberal or conservative errors. It is the failure to make proper assimilation of immigrants into their new culture a goal rather than a mere aside. Administrations of both parties have failed miserably in this respect.

    And I would be wary of Sweet Williams support.
     
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    The reason for the caveate.
     
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    Deep, VERY deep.

    Speaking for the "red necks", sounds like a bunch of BS.

    Here's my take.

    The minute you lose track of assimilating, and start to run the "multicultural" BS up the flag pole, your doomed.

    What you end up with is a carbon copy of Europa, which hasn't worked. We've gotten two world wars from that part of the world, need to try something different.

    One language, one people, has a good ring to it, of course, that's just my opinion.:huh:
     
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    It's language, at least a minimum. It's also the Magna Carta and the subsequent rule of law. It's all the charters that resulted in colonies of England.
     
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    I'm waiting for California, Arizona, and New Mexico to succeed from the Union.

    Course, then we would be expected to give them foreign aid, and the "boarder" would just move further North.

    I don't have the answers, but what we're doing NOW sure the hell ain't working.

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