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"The difference between conservatives and liberals"
Liberals want to help the poor by keeping them poor and conservatives want to help the poor help themselves.
That is it in a nutshell. The way I see it liberals think society forces people to do things, conservatives think people make their own choices. Liberals are pessimists who think people have no chance unless they get help, conservatives are optimists who think people can do anything.
that is idiocy.
provide proof of one thing that "conservativism" ever advanced.
here's a hint: you can't... because if it were an advancement, it wouldn't be conservative, it would be liberal.
you know...words have meanings.
I don't remember anyone making that argument. Not to say it didn't happen, but I don't remember seeing it.Funny, I don't recall saying that. Is using straw man arguments the only way you can make a point in a debate?
Here, I'll break my point down a little simpler, if you'd like.
You said:
My point is the false dichotomy between those two statements - it's not an "either/or" situation. The reality (which I think all will agree on) is somewhere in the middle.liberals think society forces people to do things, conservatives think people make their own choices.
No one exists in a vacuum (in other words, society has an impact on status and situation), and no one denies that personal responsibility exists (in other words, society is not the only factor in determining status and situation).
Attempting to simplify everything with a statement that makes Conservatives look good and Liberals look bad isn't a "truth" anymore than someone claiming that all Conservatives are racist is a "truth". We don't live in a binary world, we live in a world of nuance.
Do you remember all the predictions that the recession was going to cause a spike in crime, and how that was one of the arguments in favor of cutting the payroll tax? Were those arguments coming from conservatives?
The false dichotomy that I'm talking about isn't between "Liberal" and "Conservative".Maybe the problem here is that you are seeing things. I don't believe that liberal/conservative is the only possible breakdown in political classification, and have never argued that they are. That means that I am not presenting a false dichotomy, you are creating it because you are incapable of seeing the entire spectrum of humanity.
No, you're just going to try to gerry-mander your way into the WH like you tried to do in Virginia, yesterday.Liberals love power and will do anything to get it and keep it, whereas conservatives put the nation's interests first priority.
The GOP isn't going run TV ads obamination killed a woman with cancer to win votes, Democraps do run those kind of ads to dupe idiots like found on this board.
Definition of a Liberal
"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money."
Whose money do the conservatives use to pay off debt? Or do they just like to borrow, spend, and then blame the "liberal" for raising taxes to pay off the debts that the "conservatives" accrued?
Wrong kind of debt, not bright, but not unexpected from you.
LOL
No, you're just going to try to gerry-mander your way into the WH like you tried to do in Virginia, yesterday.Liberals love power and will do anything to get it and keep it, whereas conservatives put the nation's interests first priority.
The GOP isn't going run TV ads obamination killed a woman with cancer to win votes, Democraps do run those kind of ads to dupe idiots like found on this board.
Liberals love power and will do anything to get it and keep it, whereas conservatives put the nation's interests first priority.
The GOP isn't going run TV ads obamination killed a woman with cancer to win votes, Democraps do run those kind of ads to dupe idiots like found on this board.
Whose money do the conservatives use to pay off debt? Or do they just like to borrow, spend, and then blame the "liberal" for raising taxes to pay off the debts that the "conservatives" accrued?
Wrong kind of debt, not bright, but not unexpected from you.
LOL
What "debt" is that statement of yours referring to?
Psycho boy...you are really that insane claiming obamination's goons didn't run an ad claiming Romney/Bain Capital killed a worker's wife with cancer.
You should be banned from society for being such a stupid pile of shit.
No, you're just going to try to gerry-mander your way into the WH like you tried to do in Virginia, yesterday.Liberals love power and will do anything to get it and keep it, whereas conservatives put the nation's interests first priority.
The GOP isn't going run TV ads obamination killed a woman with cancer to win votes, Democraps do run those kind of ads to dupe idiots like found on this board.
That's not what I said, bitch-boy, are you going to own up to what you did in Virginia yesterday?Psycho boy...you are really that insane claiming obamination's goons didn't run an ad claiming Romney/Bain Capital killed a worker's wife with cancer.
You should be banned from society for being such a stupid pile of shit.
That is it in a nutshell. The way I see it liberals think society forces people to do things, conservatives think people make their own choices. Liberals are pessimists who think people have no chance unless they get help, conservatives are optimists who think people can do anything.
that is idiocy.
provide proof of one thing that "conservativism" ever advanced.
here's a hint: you can't... because if it were an advancement, it wouldn't be conservative, it would be liberal.
you know...words have meanings.
According to your definition, conservatives are responsible for ending slavery, creating the United States, and winning the War in Afghanistan.
Liberals love power and will do anything to get it and keep it, whereas conservatives put the nation's interests first priority.
The GOP isn't going run TV ads obamination killed a woman with cancer to win votes, Democraps do run those kind of ads to dupe idiots like found on this board.
That's a crock, I guess you don't watch Foxnews and listen to limbaugh, hannity, beck, savage, boortz, ingraham, bruce, that jerk off from Ohio (cunningham I think), levin, and the rest of those blowhards malign "libruls", "the Blacks", "the Hispanics", and Obama on a daily basis.
What did you do in Virginia, fuckhead?So shitbag....tell us all here what they said about "blacks and hispanics on FOXNews."
Come on shitbag, tell us.....I wonder why the other media didn't say a peep about the "racists over at FOXNews" surely that would be HEADLINE NEWS....
Psycho boy...you are really that insane claiming obamination's goons didn't run an ad claiming Romney/Bain Capital killed a worker's wife with cancer.
You should be banned from society for being such a stupid pile of shit.
No, you're just going to try to gerry-mander your way into the WH like you tried to do in Virginia, yesterday.
Are you stating that those ads in question came DIRECTLY from Obama's campaign?
What did you do in Virginia, fuckhead?So shitbag....tell us all here what they said about "blacks and hispanics on FOXNews."
Come on shitbag, tell us.....I wonder why the other media didn't say a peep about the "racists over at FOXNews" surely that would be HEADLINE NEWS....
Everyone has seen what you fuckers do behind the backs of the nation.We understand you got ass raped in VA, but don't tell us here....psycho boy.
What did you do in Virginia, fuckhead?So shitbag....tell us all here what they said about "blacks and hispanics on FOXNews."
Come on shitbag, tell us.....I wonder why the other media didn't say a peep about the "racists over at FOXNews" surely that would be HEADLINE NEWS....
That is it in a nutshell. The way I see it liberals think society forces people to do things, conservatives think people make their own choices. Liberals are pessimists who think people have no chance unless they get help, conservatives are optimists who think people can do anything.
that is idiocy.
provide proof of one thing that "conservativism" ever advanced.
here's a hint: you can't... because if it were an advancement, it wouldn't be conservative, it would be liberal.
you know...words have meanings.
Probably one of the dumbest things I have ever seen you post, Jill.. conservatism does not mean never changing, completely stagnant, etc...
Liberals love power and will do anything to get it and keep it, whereas conservatives put the nation's interests first priority.
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Everyone has seen what you fuckers do behind the backs of the nation.We understand you got ass raped in VA, but don't tell us here....psycho boy.
What did you do in Virginia, fuckhead?
Liberals love power and will do anything to get it and keep it, whereas conservatives put the nation's interests first priority.
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The hell they do. There has never been a more self-centred, egomanical, narcisstic, "it's all about me, mine, mine, mine", type of person than the American Neocon whackjob. An interesting species that is slowly, but surely, going the way of the Dodo...
Wrong kind of debt, not bright, but not unexpected from you.
LOL
What "debt" is that statement of yours referring to?
You never heard the expression 'debt to his fellow man'?
English your second language or something?
