The Destruction of Democracy

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    Starting in the 1890's any semblence of fair representation of the voter in politics has been laughable. The state tells us that our vehicle for participating in the electoral system has been our vote, however as it stands the common mans vote does not mean nearly as much as the rich mans wallet.

    Again and again the Supreme upholds the unspecified rights of the upper 5% of the American population to engage in shady backroom deals and buy access to the congress and the White House that the other 95% of the population could only dream of.

    Of course lip service is paid to the "American People" but in the end unless that citizen is a member of an organization engaged in a bundling operation that sent a few million dollars of "personal contributions" to one of our unscrupulous legislators, then they are denied the same influence that the above mentioned patroni enjoy. This inside access based on your social class is a perversion of what this country is based on and gives Harry Reid and John Boehner something to laugh about over expensive scotch and Cuban cigars.

    The American people realize their lack of influence considering 46% of them do not bother to show up to the polls anymore, and the 2008 elections were hailed as one of the highest turnouts in recent history. The vote, one of the fundamental rights given to American Citizens is less important than not getting called for jury duty.

    This drive to render the American people impotent needs to be stopped in order for the United States to again be an example for democracy, freedom, and equality.
     
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    Practically we could ban political ads but that infringes on free speech....I'm up for any suggestions.
     
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    True, Bruce Ackerman suggested a system known as Voting with Dollars. The gist of it is that every voter gets a 50 dollar card to contribute to whichever candidate they choose. Thus the focus of politicians goes from fund raising events and pandering wall street to actually responding to constituents concerns and holding more public forum events to listen to the majority of the people that they represent.
     
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    When was the United States a Democracy? That's right, never.
     
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    Corporations are private tyrannies as demonstrated by HBGary. In fact, since the corporation engaged in illegal conspiracies, why did the DOJ not investigate this? DOH! They were in on it. What is a government called when there is a partnership between corporations and government?

    Benito Mussolini Quotes

    "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
    -Benito Mussolini
     
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    Right! So, why are we fighting to create it in other lands?
     
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    where's the correlation between winning an election and personal wealth? Recall the recent California governor race and Meg Whitman versus Brown? If the public doesn't like the message no amount of high priced air time will win a high office. More important is how the media treats one candidate versus another.
     
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    Republic, democracy, the ideal that our system was based off of is what matters. That ideal is the right for our countries citizens to be able to have equal influence over who gets elected to a public office that represents their concerns. As it stands only the upper socio economic class really has any kind of influence over public policy. We are not even really a republic anymore but a plutocracy.

    Technically your vote is worth as much as Jaime Dimon, but let me know what happens next time you try and schedule a meeting with your Senator.
     
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    They CALL it "democracy" clearly doesn't mean it is. "Nation Building" was always a dumb policy.
     
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    Where's that spelled out, the "equal influence" part? It's not. We have the electoral college, designed to keep the highly populated urban areas from overwhelming the sparsely populated ones. We have congressional districts for the same reason. But there is NOTHING spelling out "equal influence."

    Your entire premise is flawed, and silly on its face.
     

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