The definitive guide to the "Global Warming" scam

[P@triot]

I'm not in a tizzy. I just don't think you've got crap to argue with. There is no "global warming scam" so it's not an easy thing to come up with a sure fire argument for its existence.

Thank God I don't need an "argument". All I have to do is provide facts. Like the fact that the Dumbocrats didn't even show up for the "crisis" that is going to kill us all in 12 years.

 

[P@triot]

So you've got nothing you think's a sure winner. Got it.

Here you go, snowflake. The surest of all of the sure winners. Post #1. Be sure someone is standing by to give you the heimlich as you choke on it.

 

[Crick]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

Since no one KNOWS what will happen in the future, no one can be held to have lied in a projection. A projection that fails to come true is an error, not a lie.

A study in the journal Nature Climate Change reviewed 117 climate predictions and found that 97.4% never materialized.

• Biologist Paul Ehrlich predicted in the 1970s that: “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” and that “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

Paul Ehrilich's concern was overpopulation. He is not a climate scientist and never addressed global warming.

• In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

This report was made before the enactment of the Clean Air Act

• In January 2006 Al Gore predicted that we had ten years left before the planet turned into a “total frying pan.” We made it.

First, you will have to quantify "total frying pan". Second, let me remind you that Al Gore is not a climate scientist. Global temperatures certainly rose between 2006 and 2016.

• In 2008, a segment aired on ABC News predicted that NYC would be under water by June 2015.

I am wondering why I am not seeing projections by, say, the IPCC. Climate scientists were making no such predictions at the time. And since I have never used ABC News, or any of these folks as sources, I see no requirement that I defend their mistakes.

• In 1970, ecologist Kenneth E.F. Watt predicted that “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but 11 degrees colder by the year 2000, This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.”

An ecologist works in the field of biology. He has no expertise in the field of climate science.

• In 2008, Al Gore predicted that there is a 75% chance that the entire north polar ice cap would be completely melted within 5-7 years. He at least hedged that prediction by giving himself “75%” certainty. By 2014 - the polar ice cap had expanded over 60% (more than 900,000 sq miles)

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• On May 13th 2014 France’s foreign minister said that we only have 500 days to stop “climate chaos.” The recent Paris climate summit met 565 days after his remark.

This is getting more than a little ridiculous. There are a few mentally unsound people who wander around my town all day. Should I seek out their opinions and then demand you defend them?

• In 2009, National Aeronautics and Space Administration Goddard Space Flight Center head James Wassen warned that Obama only had four years left to save the earth.

He may have been correct.

• On the first Earth Day its sponsor warned that “in 25 years, somewhere between 75% and 80% of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

Well, the Earth Day sponsors got it wrong. We've only driven 60% of the Earth's species extinct in that time span (ie, well within MY lifetime). I guess you should feel pleased.

Wildlife numbers more than halve since 1970s in mass extinction
Humanity has wiped out 60% of animal populations since 1970, report finds
The Extinction Crisis
World wildlife populations 'fall by 58% since 1970'

From Wikipedia
1970s

• c. 1970 - The Caspian tiger becomes extinct primarily due to habitat loss, hunting, and loss of prey.[67]
• 1972 - The endemic to Jamaica Mason River myrtle becomes extinct.[68]
• 1974 - The last known Japanese sea lion is captured off the coast of Rebun Island, Hokkaido.[69]
• c. 1976 - Last sightings of the Javan tiger.[70]

1980s

• 1981 - The Puhielelu hibiscadelphus becomes extinct.[71]
• 1981 - Last sighting of the green-blossom pearly mussel, an American mussel.[72]
• 1981 - The Southern gastric-brooding frog (Rheobatrachus silus) became extinct probably due to habitat destruction and disease.[73]
• 1983 - Last unconfirmed spotting of the kouprey (Bos sauveli),[74] last absolute confirmed spotting was in 1969/70.[75] Declared as “most likely to be extinct” by the IUCN.[75]
• 1983-84 - The 24-rayed sunstar (Heliaster solaris), the Galapagos black-spotted damselfish and the Galapagos stringweed likely become extinct due to climate change.[76]
• 1985 - The Northern gastric-brooding frog (Rheobatrachus vitellinus) became extinct probably due to habitat destruction and disease.[77]
• 1987 - The last Kauaʻi ʻōʻō (Moho braccatus), a male, is recorded singing a mating call. The species was never heard from again and was declared extinct.[78]
• 1989 - The golden toad of Costa Rica becomes extinct, perhaps because of climate change.[79]

1990s

• 1990 - The dusky seaside sparrow was officially declared extinct in December 1990. The last definite known individual died on 17 June 1987.[80]
• 1994 - Saint Croix racer, a snake native to the Virgin Islands, declared extinct.[81]
• 1994 - Levuana moth from Hawaii goes extinct.[82]
• 1997 - The Hainan ormosia (a species of legume) which was native to China is no longer seen.[83]

3rd millennium CE
21st century
2000s

• 2000 - "Celia", the last Pyrenean ibex, was found dead in 2000. However, in 2003, a female was cloned back into existence, but died shortly after birth due to defects in the lungs.[84][85]
• 2003 - The last individual from the St. Helena olive, which was grown in cultivation, dies off. The last plant in the wild had died in 1994.[86]
• 2006 - A technologically sophisticated survey of the Yangtze River failed to find specimens of the baiji dolphin, prompting scientists to declare it functionally extinct.[87]

2010s

• 2011 - The Eastern cougar was declared extinct. Last known individual was trapped and killed in 1938.[88][89]
• 2011 - The western black rhinoceros was declared extinct.[90]
• 2012 - The Japanese river otter (Lutra lutra whiteneyi) declared extinct by the country's Ministry of the Environment, after not being seen for more than 30 years.[91]
• 2012 - "Lonesome George", the last known specimen of the Pinta Island tortoise, died on 24 June 2012.[92]
• 2013 - The Cape Verde giant skink was declared extinct.[93]
• 2013 - The Formosan clouded leopard, previously endemic to the island of Taiwan, is officially declared extinct.[94]
• 2014 - The Bermuda saw-whet owl was declared extinct after being described from fossils in 2012.[95]
• 2017 - The Christmas Island forest skink was declared extinct, three years after the last known specimen died.[96]
• 2019 - The Bramble Cay melomys was declared extinct.[97]

• And another Earth Day prediction from Kenneth Watt: “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

Again, Kenneth Watt is an ecologist - a biologist. He is speaking well outside his field.


These are not the predictions of climate scientists. Many of these are not the work of scientists at all. Yet you claim this is evidence of a global warming scam. It is not. This is a failure of epic proportions, to borrow a phrase.

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

Since no one KNOWS what will happen in the future, no one can be held to have lied in a projection.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!! You just defeated the entire premise of "Global Warming". Since nobody could possibly know, why do anything?!? You're admitting you don't know what "Global Warming" is doing and you're admitting you don't know what effect the policies will result in!!! Game OVER.

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

Since no one KNOWS what will happen in the future, no one can be held to have lied in a projection.

Just imagine the type of hard core partisan hack one must be to adamantly declare over and over and over that "Global Warming" is catastrophic and we're all going to die, and then in the next breath declare "nobody could possibly know what will happen in the future" when faced with the fact that history has proven "Global Warming" to be a scam since 97.4% of the predictions never materialized.

What a dolt. What a partisan hack.

 

[P@triot]

He is not a climate scientist and never addressed global warming.

Neither is Al Gore. But that doesn't stop you from bending over and taking it from him, then telling everyone that Gore speaks the truth.

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

• In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

This report was made before the enactment of the Clean Air Act

Hahahaha! Just caught Crick in another lie.

Nicknames Clean Air Act of 1963
Enacted by the 88th United States Congress
Effective December 17, 1963

The Clean Air Act was enacted in 1963. Thus the report came out 7 years AFTER the legislation.



Clean Air Act (United States) - Wikipedia

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

• In January 2006 Al Gore predicted that we had ten years left before the planet turned into a “total frying pan.” We made it.

Second, let me remind you that Al Gore is not a climate scientist.

Uh...then why is he speaking out? You are now on record as stating that Al Gore either got this from climate scientists or he lied about "Global Warming". Which is it?

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

• In 2008, a segment aired on ABC News predicted that NYC would be under water by June 2015.

I am wondering why I am not seeing projections by, say, the IPCC. Climate scientists were making no such predictions at the time.

So you're openly admitting that the left lies about "Global Warming"?!? Game OVER!

 

[P@triot]

Is there anything more comical than watching a leftist attempt to manufacture excuse after excuse after excuse for the lies of their side of the aisle? History has unequivocally proven that "Global Warming" is a scam. The weak excuses and big lies that Crick keeps posting are unreal! Too funny.

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

• In 1970, ecologist Kenneth E.F. Watt predicted that “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but 11 degrees colder by the year 2000, This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.”

An ecologist works in the field of biology. He has no expertise in the field of climate science.

So you're yet again admitting that the left LIES about "Global Warming"? Great strategy there, Crick.

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

• On May 13th 2014 France’s foreign minister said that we only have 500 days to stop “climate chaos.” The recent Paris climate summit met 565 days after his remark.

This is getting more than a little ridiculous.

We agree! And yet you left-wing lunatics refuse to embrace facts (or reality) and accept "Global Warming" for the scam that it is.

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

• In 2009, National Aeronautics and Space Administration Goddard Space Flight Center head James Wassen warned that Obama only had four years left to save the earth.

He may have been correct.

Really? Because it's been 10 years since that prediction and the Earth is still here and doing quite well!

 

[Crick]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

Since no one KNOWS what will happen in the future, no one can be held to have lied in a projection.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!! You just defeated the entire premise of "Global Warming". Since nobody could possibly know, why do anything?!? You're admitting you don't know what "Global Warming" is doing and you're admitting you don't know what effect the policies will result in!!! Game OVER.

Why am I not surprised you're unaware of the definition of a word as simple as "KNOW"?

 

[Crick]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

• In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

This report was made before the enactment of the Clean Air Act

Hahahaha! Just caught Crick in another lie.

Nicknames Clean Air Act of 1963
Enacted by the 88th United States Congress
Effective December 17, 1963

The Clean Air Act was enacted in 1963. Thus the report came out 7 years AFTER the legislation.
Clean Air Act (United States) - Wikipedia

It was first amended in 1965, by the Motor Vehicle Air Pollution Control Act, which authorized the federal government to set required standards for controlling the emission of pollutants from certain automobiles, beginning with the 1968 models. A second amendment, the Air Quality Act of 1967, enabled the federal government to increase its activities to investigate enforcing interstate air pollution transport, and, for the first time, to perform far-reaching ambient monitoring studies and stationary source inspections. The 1967 act also authorized expanded studies of air pollutant emission inventories, ambient monitoring techniques, and control techniques.[7] While only six states had air pollution programs in 1960, all 50 states had air pollution programs by 1970 due to the federal funding and legislation of the 1960s.[8] Amendments approved in 1970 greatly expanded the federal mandate, requiring comprehensive federal and state regulations for both stationary (industrial) pollution sources and mobile sources. It also significantly expanded federal enforcement. Also, EPA was established on December 2, 1970 for the purpose of consolidating pertinent federal research, monitoring, standard-setting and enforcement activities into one agency that ensures environmental protection.[9][10]

Further amendments were made in 1990 to address the problems of acid rain, ozone depletion, and toxic air pollution, and to establish a national permit program for stationary sources, and increased enforcement authority. The amendments also established new auto gasoline reformulation requirements, set Reid vapor pressure (RVP) standards to control Evaporative emissions from gasoline, and mandated new gasoline formulations sold from May to September in many states. Reviewing his tenure as EPA Administrator under President George H. W. Bush, William K. Reilly characterized passage of the 1990 amendments to the Clean Air Act as his most notable accomplishment.[11]

 

[Crick]

If it's all a big scam, certainly the heart of the scam has to be the IPCC and their assessment reports. Let's have a look at THOSE projections, eh?

 

[P@triot]

If it's all a big scam, certainly the heart of the scam has to be the IPCC and their assessment reports. Let's have a look at THOSE projections, eh?

We already have, snowflake. They were caught in emails to each other discussing how they falsify their data and lie to the American people. Another fact posted in this thread that you ran from.

 

[P@triot]

The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.

Since no one KNOWS what will happen in the future, no one can be held to have lied in a projection.

That response is hands down my favorite left-wing lunatic “Global Warming” response ever.

Climate Alarmist: “The world is going to end if we don’t execute 98% of the population immediately and force the remaining 2% to live like Native American Indians”.

Climate Alarmist (in the very next breath): “Look pal, nobody KNOWS what is going to happen. Nobody knows what ‘Global Warming’ is doing. Nobody knows what effects ‘Global Warming’ policies will have. Nobody knows”.

Ah. Shrewd. What a wise response after decades of insisting we’re all going to die and the planet will explode.

 

[Crick]

I've put enough words out on this board that you've no need to make them up for me.

My point is valid. Being guilty of telling a lie requires knowing the truth.

Beyond that, not a single of your items involved a climate scientist.

If it's all a big scam, certainly the heart of the scam has to be the IPCC and their assessment reports. Let's have a look at THOSE projections, eh?

We already have, snowflake. They were caught in emails to each other discussing how they falsify their data and lie to the American people. Another fact posted in this thread that you ran from.

"Climategate"'s stolen emails revealed nothing of the sort. Nor were the parties involved employed by the IPCC.

Here's what were used in AR5. From Projections for AR5 – Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

Projections for AR5
CM3


ESM2M/G


HiRAM


CM2.1


CM2.5


The final draft of the Working Group 1 (WG1) contribution to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change , is now available. GFDL has contributed to this report through publications describing its scientific research on climate change, by providing model projections to the CMIP5 archive of climate model results used by the IPCC writing teams to judge the quality of climate models and summarize their projections of future climate, and by contributing its scientific expertise to the writing and reviewing teams . The IPCC reports are an important mechanism through which GFDL research informs the public and policy makers on climate change issues. It is appropriate to speak of the IPCC as being one of the most important customers of GFDL research.

GFDL provided results from two closely related coupled atmosphere-ocean-land-sea ice models, known as CM2.0 and CM2.1, for the 4th IPCC Assessment that appeared in 2007. In the period leading up to AR5, the lab decided to create multiple branches of development starting from the CM2.1 model — a model with 200km horizontal resolution in the atmosphere and 1 degree resolution in the ocean. The five branches that contributed to AR5 are:

1. CM3: a coupled physical climate model with a new atmospheric component of the same horizontal resolution as CM2.1 but with a comprehensive treatment of tropospheric and stratospheric chemistry as well as aerosols and cloud aerosol interactions, coupled to a modified version of the oceanic component of CM2.1 and to the new land model LM3.
2. ESM2M/G: Earth system models (with closed carbon cycles in the oceans and on land), based on the atmospheric component of CM2.1 but with two different ocean components with different numerical algorithms (M has a vertical coordinate similar to the height z, while G uses constant density surfaces as its vertical coordinate.) Also uses LM3.
3. HiRAM: A high resolution atmosphere/land only model (50 and 25 kilometer horizontal resolutions), used for “timeslice” simulations in which future projections for the ocean and sea ice are taken from lower resolution models and used as lower boundary conditions for this higher resolution atmospheric simulation ?optimized for hurricane simulation.
4. CM2.1: Used with a new data assimilation system in the AR5 decadal prediction suite
5. CM2.5: a higher resolution version of CM2.1 (50 km atmospheric resolution and ¼ degree resolution in the ocean.) for studying the impact of resolution of coupled climate dynamics

GFDL is currently in the midst of a model development effort designed to incorporate the best features of this diverse suite of models into a single comprehensive high-resolution earth system model, CM4.

 

[P@triot]

My point is valid. Being guilty of telling a lie requires knowing the truth.

So you admit that the people claiming “Global Warming” don’t know the truth. That makes it a scam. Thank you.