The debate is OVER

If things were 'fine' before Obama, WHY did Congress pass the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) in 2008?

Because government was lead by idiot liberals. You had Dumbocrat Nancy Pelosi controlling the House, Dumbocrat Harry Reid controlling the Senate, and RINO George W. Bush controlling the White House.

Thank you for proving for me once again the failed policies and spread-the-wealth socialism of the Dumbocrat Party.

If things were 'fine' before Obama, WHY did we lose 2.6 million jobs in 2008?

Because government was lead by idiot spread-the-wealth, tax-and-spend-until-you-collapse Dumbocrats.

But more importantly, if things were not fine and we lost sooooo many jobs in 2008, why was unemployment lower back then than it has ever been under Obama? :lmao:

You have moved way beyond a hack. You are an ignorant moron who can't face the truth.

Projection - it's what you Dumbocrats do best. The facts have shown you're a partisan hack. The facts have shown the policies you support collapsed the world economy. And the best part is, we both know that you know it too. It's why you're so angry.

$7 trillion in reckless deficit spending under Barack Obama. Higher unemployment under Obama. More people in poverty under Obama. More people of food stamps than any point in U.S. history under under Obama. And oh yeah, all of this after the Dumbocrats have spent over $2 trillion on their "War on Poverty" (which was designed to grow poverty and keep people there - and has been successful at that).
 
To the partisan hack it's always somebody else's fault.

"X happened because your guy was in the White House!"
"What about Y? Your guy was in the White House then?"
"That's because your people were in the Congress!! What was he supposed to do?!?" :eusa_boohoo:

Waiter! More whine!

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If things were 'fine' before Obama, WHY did Congress pass the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) in 2008?

Because government was lead by idiot liberals. You had Dumbocrat Nancy Pelosi controlling the House, Dumbocrat Harry Reid controlling the Senate, and RINO George W. Bush controlling the White House.

Thank you for proving for me once again the failed policies and spread-the-wealth socialism of the Dumbocrat Party.

If things were 'fine' before Obama, WHY did we lose 2.6 million jobs in 2008?

Because government was lead by idiot spread-the-wealth, tax-and-spend-until-you-collapse Dumbocrats.

But more importantly, if things were not fine and we lost sooooo many jobs in 2008, why was unemployment lower back then than it has ever been under Obama? :lmao:

You have moved way beyond a hack. You are an ignorant moron who can't face the truth.

Projection - it's what you Dumbocrats do best. The facts have shown you're a partisan hack. The facts have shown the policies you support collapsed the world economy. And the best part is, we both know that you know it too. It's why you're so angry.

$7 trillion in reckless deficit spending under Barack Obama. Higher unemployment under Obama. More people in poverty under Obama. More people of food stamps than any point in U.S. history under under Obama. And oh yeah, all of this after the Dumbocrats have spent over $2 trillion on their "War on Poverty" (which was designed to grow poverty and keep people there - and has been successful at that).

Listen up sonny boy...I have been around since Harry S. Truman was in the White House. When liberals ran this country there was no debt to speak of. President Kennedy and Johnson faced the possibility of budget SURPLUSES. I lived through a good portion of the liberal era that started with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. It was America's finest moment. It was an era with huge economic growth and shared wealth, fantastic successes in technology, vast expansion of citizen freedoms and liberties and the growth of a middle class that defined this country and made America the 'city on the hill', the envy of the world.

The last 30+ years have been dominated by 'conservatives'. It has been the biggest FAILURE in American history. It has been a negative mirror image of the liberal era. We now lead the world only in the dubious like incarcerating human beings, killing innocent people and launching Hirohito sneak attacks on sovereign nations.

The right wing cancer started with Richard Nixon and metastasized under Ronald Reagan, the traitor.

The run up to the collapse or our economy was almost a full DECADE of Republican control of the White House, the Senate and the House. The blame falls squarely on conservatives.



“Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. Reagan was an ideological inflection point, ending a 50-year liberal ascendancy and beginning a 30-year conservative ascendancy."
Charles Krauthammer

"The debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
David Stockman - Director of the Office of Management and Budget for U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

"Grover Norquist has no plan to pay this debt down. His plan says you continue to add to the debt..."
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.)


Old give 'em hell Harry had you right wing scum figured out way back in 1948...

"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
President Harry S. Truman - October 13, 1948
 
If things were 'fine' before Obama, WHY did Congress pass the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) in 2008?

Because government was lead by idiot liberals. You had Dumbocrat Nancy Pelosi controlling the House, Dumbocrat Harry Reid controlling the Senate, and RINO George W. Bush controlling the White House.

Thank you for proving for me once again the failed policies and spread-the-wealth socialism of the Dumbocrat Party.

Because government was lead by idiot spread-the-wealth, tax-and-spend-until-you-collapse Dumbocrats.

But more importantly, if things were not fine and we lost sooooo many jobs in 2008, why was unemployment lower back then than it has ever been under Obama? :lmao:

You have moved way beyond a hack. You are an ignorant moron who can't face the truth.

Projection - it's what you Dumbocrats do best. The facts have shown you're a partisan hack. The facts have shown the policies you support collapsed the world economy. And the best part is, we both know that you know it too. It's why you're so angry.

$7 trillion in reckless deficit spending under Barack Obama. Higher unemployment under Obama. More people in poverty under Obama. More people of food stamps than any point in U.S. history under under Obama. And oh yeah, all of this after the Dumbocrats have spent over $2 trillion on their "War on Poverty" (which was designed to grow poverty and keep people there - and has been successful at that).

Listen up sonny boy...I have been around since Harry S. Truman was in the White House. When liberals ran this country there was no debt to speak of. President Kennedy and Johnson faced the possibility of budget SURPLUSES. I lived through a good portion of the liberal era that started with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. It was America's finest moment. It was an era with huge economic growth and shared wealth, fantastic successes in technology, vast expansion of citizen freedoms and liberties and the growth of a middle class that defined this country and made America the 'city on the hill', the envy of the world.

The last 30+ years have been dominated by 'conservatives'. It has been the biggest FAILURE in American history. It has been a negative mirror image of the liberal era. We now lead the world only in the dubious like incarcerating human beings, killing innocent people and launching Hirohito sneak attacks on sovereign nations.

The right wing cancer started with Richard Nixon and metastasized under Ronald Reagan, the traitor.

The run up to the collapse or our economy was almost a full DECADE of Republican control of the White House, the Senate and the House. The blame falls squarely on conservatives.

“Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. Reagan was an ideological inflection point, ending a 50-year liberal ascendancy and beginning a 30-year conservative ascendancy."
Charles Krauthammer

"The debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
David Stockman - Director of the Office of Management and Budget for U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

"Grover Norquist has no plan to pay this debt down. His plan says you continue to add to the debt..."
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.)


Old give 'em hell Harry had you right wing scum figured out way back in 1948...

"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
President Harry S. Truman - October 13, 1948

So in the face of indisputable facts, all you have are quotes from people backed up by nothing? The fact is, Dumbocrats are the one's who make American farmers go broke by taxing them to death and regulating them into the grave.

The Obama Administration fervently opposes voter ID but insists that the nation’s farmers prove the identity of every chicken

The fact is, Dumbocrats like you cry for more money but are never willing to contribute to society. Instead, like the greedy parasites that you are, you sit on your fat asses demanding more money, benefits, and programs provided to you by government at the barrel of a gun. If you want "educational opportunity for all" why don't you voluntarily donate your money for teachers and schools? Too greedy? Too cheap? Too selfish? All of the above?

Here's the undeniable reality backed up by facts (instead of quotes of opinions): Dumbocrat liberal policy ends in poverty and misery. Cuba has proven that. The U.S.S.R. proved that. Detroit has proven that. In contrast, conservative policy ends with prosperity. Lets review again, shall we partisan hack?

$7 trillion in reckless deficit spending under Barack Obama. Higher unemployment under Obama. More people in poverty under Obama. More people of food stamps than any point in U.S. history under under Obama. And oh yeah, all of this after the Dumbocrats have spent over $2 trillion on their "War on Poverty" (which was designed to grow poverty and keep people there - and has been successful at that).
 
All this is is an election year gimmick aimed at drawing voters. Walker's paying for his tax cuts not through the surplus as he claims but by deferring payments on debt and a rumored increase in the state sales tax to 13%.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

btw...Wisconsin isn't the only state enjoying a windfall because of Obama's economic growth. Hopefully, all of them, particularly Wisconsin, don't repeat the greedy republican ways of yesteryear.

States pursue tax cuts as recovery takes hold
 
All this is is an election year gimmick aimed at drawing voters. Walker's paying for his tax cuts not through the surplus as he claims but by deferring payments on debt and a rumored increase in the state sales tax to 13%.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

btw...Wisconsin isn't the only state enjoying a windfall because of Obama's economic growth. Hopefully, all of them, particularly Wisconsin, don't repeat the greedy republican ways of yesteryear.

States pursue tax cuts as recovery takes hold

Howey, you get pwned in every thread. Have you considered giving up this posting gig and concentrating on what you know best, like cock rings?
 
All this is is an election year gimmick aimed at drawing voters. Walker's paying for his tax cuts not through the surplus as he claims but by deferring payments on debt and a rumored increase in the state sales tax to 13%.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

btw...Wisconsin isn't the only state enjoying a windfall because of Obama's economic growth. Hopefully, all of them, particularly Wisconsin, don't repeat the greedy republican ways of yesteryear.

States pursue tax cuts as recovery takes hold

Howey, you get pwned in every thread. Have you considered giving up this posting gig and concentrating on what you know best, like cock rings?

"pwned" huh?


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:lmao:
 
All this is is an election year gimmick aimed at drawing voters. Walker's paying for his tax cuts not through the surplus as he claims but by deferring payments on debt and a rumored increase in the state sales tax to 13%.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

btw...Wisconsin isn't the only state enjoying a windfall because of Obama's economic growth. Hopefully, all of them, particularly Wisconsin, don't repeat the greedy republican ways of yesteryear.

States pursue tax cuts as recovery takes hold

Howey, you get pwned in every thread. Have you considered giving up this posting gig and concentrating on what you know best, like cock rings?

"pwned" huh?


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:lmao:

Butt hurt much?
 
I got negged in under ten seconds when I first did that. No one has ever touched that response time. Not even close.

That's what I call butthurt.
 
like the greedy parasites that you are, you sit on your fat asses demanding more money, benefits, and programs provided to you by government at the barrel of a gun.

Link?




Didn't think so.

Guess you haven’t heard: ‘the debate is over…’

The right has taken its ball and gone home.

The OP is the classic conservative, fearful of diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty.
 
Rottweiler says he is a conservative yet continues to post in losertarian language.
 
like the greedy parasites that you are, you sit on your fat asses demanding more money, benefits, and programs provided to you by government at the barrel of a gun.

Link?

Didn't think so.

Guess you haven’t heard: ‘the debate is over…’ The right has taken its ball and gone home.

The OP is the classic conservative, fearful of diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty.

More projection from the Dumbocrats...about the only thing they do well. Here is a man who was pushed out of his job by intolerant liberals because he made a legal political contribution in his private life...

An American nightmare: Glenn reacts to the resignation of Mozilla CEO over support of Prop 8

Considering you advocate for government control over everything, I'd say it's clear you are the only asshole here who is fearful of diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty (such as the one Mr. Eisn made :eek:)
 
Rottweiler says he is a conservative yet continues to post in losertarian language.

Of course a radical libtard Dumbocrat would believe that anything which is not communist rhetoric is "libertarian language".

I wonder if you could quote for us one of my supposed "libertarian language" posts so that the rest of us could be doubled-over in laughter (in case you haven't realized it yet, you're basically the jester of USMB).
 
Hey, don't blame me because you're lazy and disorganized. Prepared people can evacuate in under 20 minutes and still have time to make a snack.

What's even more comical is that we have these things called "satellites" that track storms for over a week in advance. You had days to evacuate and decided to take no action (typical of a liberal). Then you expect society to come in, rescue you, and then provide all of your wants and needs.
You claimed in that thread that NOAA warned of Katrina before it even formed. We had hours, not days, but we used them.
As I’ve argued with the ignorant dill-hole Pogo for years now - Hurricane Katrina was no last minute surprise. Everyone had a notice more than 4 days in advance. Being the childish ignorant dill-hole, he attempted to lie about it.

Well Pogo - here is some really bad news for you. This article was from Monday (09/10/18) warning of the hurricane set to hit this Thursday (09/12/18). It’s a warning 4 days in advance, just as I stated about Katrina. Of course, you’re next pitiful and pathetic lie will be that we didn’t have these capabilities “back then”. Well, in 2005 we absolutely had sophisticated satellites/radar/etc. Everyone knew about Hurricane Katrina 4 to 5 days in advance. It’s just that lazy liberals like yourself refused to take any personal responsibility.

Proved you wrong yet again (I do every time)! How does it feel to be my personal bitch on USMB?

:dance: :dance: :dance:

Hurricane Florence Could Drop 40 Inches of Rain When It Makes Landfall in North Carolina
 
Hey, don't blame me because you're lazy and disorganized. Prepared people can evacuate in under 20 minutes and still have time to make a snack.

What's even more comical is that we have these things called "satellites" that track storms for over a week in advance. You had days to evacuate and decided to take no action (typical of a liberal). Then you expect society to come in, rescue you, and then provide all of your wants and needs.
You claimed in that thread that NOAA warned of Katrina before it even formed. We had hours, not days, but we used them.
As I’ve argued with the ignorant dill-hole Pogo for years now - Hurricane Katrina was no last minute surprise. Everyone had a notice more than 4 days in advance. Being the childish ignorant dill-hole, he attempted to lie about it.

Well Pogo - here is some really bad news for you. This article was from Monday (09/10/18) warning of the hurricane set to hit this Thursday (09/12/18). It’s a warning 4 days in advance, just as I stated about Katrina. Of course, you’re next pitiful and pathetic lie will be that we didn’t have these capabilities “back then”. Well, in 2005 we absolutely had sophisticated satellites/radar/etc. Everyone knew about Hurricane Katrina 4 to 5 days in advance. It’s just that lazy liberals like yourself refused to take any personal responsibility.

Proved you wrong yet again (I do every time)! How does it feel to be my personal bitch on USMB?

:dance: :dance: :dance:

Hurricane Florence Could Drop 40 Inches of Rain When It Makes Landfall in North Carolina

LOL, your final comment, "It’s just that lazy liberals like yourself refused to take any personal responsibility" is typically divisive and posted with no probative evidence.

More than likely it is those who spend their days smoking and watching Fox News and/or listening to Limbaugh & Co., aka poorly educated conservatives. To paraphrase Pogo, we have met the enemy and they is you.
 
Hey, don't blame me because you're lazy and disorganized. Prepared people can evacuate in under 20 minutes and still have time to make a snack.

What's even more comical is that we have these things called "satellites" that track storms for over a week in advance. You had days to evacuate and decided to take no action (typical of a liberal). Then you expect society to come in, rescue you, and then provide all of your wants and needs.
You claimed in that thread that NOAA warned of Katrina before it even formed. We had hours, not days, but we used them.
As I’ve argued with the ignorant dill-hole Pogo for years now - Hurricane Katrina was no last minute surprise. Everyone had a notice more than 4 days in advance. Being the childish ignorant dill-hole, he attempted to lie about it.

Well Pogo - here is some really bad news for you. This article was from Monday (09/10/18) warning of the hurricane set to hit this Thursday (09/12/18). It’s a warning 4 days in advance, just as I stated about Katrina. Of course, you’re next pitiful and pathetic lie will be that we didn’t have these capabilities “back then”. Well, in 2005 we absolutely had sophisticated satellites/radar/etc. Everyone knew about Hurricane Katrina 4 to 5 days in advance. It’s just that lazy liberals like yourself refused to take any personal responsibility.

Proved you wrong yet again (I do every time)! How does it feel to be my personal bitch on USMB?

:dance: :dance: :dance:

Hurricane Florence Could Drop 40 Inches of Rain When It Makes Landfall in North Carolina

LOL, your final comment, "It’s just that lazy liberals like yourself refused to take any personal responsibility" is typically divisive and posted with no probative evidence.

More than likely it is those who spend their days smoking and watching Fox News and/or listening to Limbaugh & Co., aka poorly educated conservatives. To paraphrase Pogo, we have met the enemy and they is you.

Buttsoiler just woke up in desperation mode. Went crawling around USMB to find everywhere I posted in the last FIVE YEARS and dumped this same shit, verbatim, in all of them. And promptly got his ass reported for it.

I should sub-let all this space in his head he gives me. You could store a LOT in there, it's so empty.
 
If 60 years of complete and total Democrat control bankrupting Detorit and collapsing it didn't prove that liberal ideology is a failed ideology filled with failed policies (and make no mistake, it did) then this certainly ends the debate:

Limbaugh cited an Associated Press report run Wednesday on page A14 of the New York Times about the Wisconsin Assembly passing Walker’s $504 million tax-cut plan. As previously reported by TheBlaze, Walker intends to use part of Wisconsin’s projected $977 million surplus to pay for property and income tax cuts.

“He introduced a bill in January that would send $406 million to technical colleges to reduce their property tax hit and cut income taxes by $98 million by reducing the lowest bracket to 4 percent from 4.4 percent,” the report states. “The end result would be a $131 reduction a median home’s tax bill this December and $46 in annual income tax savings for the average worker.”


Democrats Are "Living in Mortal Fear" of the Day This Huge Story Is Widely Reported


gosh
conservatives are ignoring liberal cities that are doing well and focusing on the 1 city run by democrats that is failing. And using THAT 1 example as evidence that ALL democratic policies are FAILURES! Even though the most successful states in the union are blue states like California.....Meanwhile....they COMPLETELY IGNORE all the RED STATES that are the fiscally WORST states in the country! (alabama, louisiana, mississippi)......Well...I'm not surprised. It is a regular tactic of the deranged conservative..
 
If 60 years of complete and total Democrat control bankrupting Detorit and collapsing it didn't prove that liberal ideology is a failed ideology filled with failed policies (and make no mistake, it did) then this certainly ends the debate:

Limbaugh cited an Associated Press report run Wednesday on page A14 of the New York Times about the Wisconsin Assembly passing Walker’s $504 million tax-cut plan. As previously reported by TheBlaze, Walker intends to use part of Wisconsin’s projected $977 million surplus to pay for property and income tax cuts.

“He introduced a bill in January that would send $406 million to technical colleges to reduce their property tax hit and cut income taxes by $98 million by reducing the lowest bracket to 4 percent from 4.4 percent,” the report states. “The end result would be a $131 reduction a median home’s tax bill this December and $46 in annual income tax savings for the average worker.”


Democrats Are "Living in Mortal Fear" of the Day This Huge Story Is Widely Reported


4 of the top 5 state economies in the US are BLUE STATES.


5 of the bottom 5 economies are RED states.


now.....keep talking about detroit........
 
gosh conservatives are ignoring liberal cities that are doing well and focusing on the 1 city run by democrats that is failing. And using THAT 1 example as evidence that ALL democratic policies are FAILURES!
There are no liberal cities that are "doing well". None. San Fransisco is literally covered in human feces. Los Angeles has more gangs and drugs than most nations. Chicago has 18 deaths or more every weekend (it approaches 40 or more on a "holiday weekend").

You can't show us a single liberal city that is "doing well". DeanRD attempted to claim in another thread that the "poorest counties" are in right-wing states. Which is comical. The poorest counties are in left-wing counties. He didn't want to compare apples-to-apples. So I did it for him and humiliated him. The poorest countries in the U.S. were ALL in left-wing counties. Here are the results for you to see for yourself: #107, #109, #111.
 

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