The Death Of Global Warming, Finally?

[bitterlyclingin]

(Remember the East Anglia University e-mail cache that suddenly got loosed upon the world? Here's more where that came from and it ain't looking good for Doctor mann & Co. Al, it might be time to cash in your chips, sell that jet while you can still get some money for it. Go easy on the maseuses. They're just hard working gal trying to make a living.)

"Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary [...]"

"What appears to be a new batch of emails and other documents from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit has been released.

"Contents include more than 5,000 emails and other documents, some relating to work with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

A similar release in 2009 triggered the "ClimateGate" affair and accusations of fraud that inquiries later dismissed.

Now, as then, the release comes shortly before the annual UN climate summit.

The university has yet to comment on the document cache, which is posted on a Russian server"

I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run."

small dead animals: Climategate 2.0

 

[konradv]

(Remember the East Anglia University e-mail cache that suddenly got loosed upon the world? Here's more where that came from and it ain't looking good for Doctor mann & Co. Al, it might be time to cash in your chips, sell that jet while you can still get some money for it. Go easy on the maseuses. They're just hard working gal trying to make a living.)

"Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary [...]"

"What appears to be a new batch of emails and other documents from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit has been released.

"Contents include more than 5,000 emails and other documents, some relating to work with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

A similar release in 2009 triggered the "ClimateGate" affair and accusations of fraud that inquiries later dismissed.

Now, as then, the release comes shortly before the annual UN climate summit.

The university has yet to comment on the document cache, which is posted on a Russian server"

I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run."

small dead animals: Climategate 2.0

Guess what, "Political Spin" and "Global Warming" aren't mutually exclusive. Proponents are just trying to catch up to what the skeptics/deniers have been doing for years. How you present the case is what I get out of the emails. Doesn't prove anything else, one way or another.

 

[JMadison]

What that scandal showed me is that major players in this subject matter are willing to ride roughshod over the data to make a point. As far as I'm concern the jury is still out on AGW, and until the data is conclusive, we are not going to move into caves to make leftists feel better.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy." -- Official policy of the IPCC

Read more: UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy' | NewsBusters.org

AGW is EnviroMarxism and has no more real science behind it than any daily astrological forecast

 

[geauxtohell]

I didn't realize East Anglia University had a monopoly on the scientific consensus of climate change.

It would be nice if this could be tracked back to more than just an anonymous blogger's page and it was more then selected passages from "5000" e-mails.

 

[konradv]

What that scandal showed me is that major players in this subject matter are willing to ride roughshod over the data to make a point. As far as I'm concern the jury is still out on AGW, and until the data is conclusive, we are not going to move into caves to make leftists feel better.

FAIL!!! No one is asking you to move to a cave. Post something worthwhile, please. You're doing an injustice to your avatar.

 

[California Girl]

I didn't realize East Anglia University had a monopoly on the scientific consensus of climate change.

It would be nice if this could be tracked back to more than just an anonymous blogger's page and it was more then selected passages from "5000" e-mails.

Climategate 2? More UEA hacked emails - Telegraph

This might help, the Telegraph is usually reasonably unbiased - although as a source it is right leaning.

The University of East Anglia doesn't have a monopoly on anything... it is, however, a key part of the international research into climate change.

 

[Old Rocks]

Given the observations from satellites, ground stations, and ocean going devices, it is dead certain that the world is rapidly warming. One can get the data from USGS, NOAA, or NASA.

Now there are only two ways the world can warm. It can recieve more energy from the sun, and it can retain heat that it normally reflects or radiates into space.

For the last 50 years, the Total Solar Irradiance has be slowly declining. However, in the last 150 years we have increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by 40%. CO2 absorbs infrared, and reradiates it. In other words, we are now retaining more of the heat that was previously reflected or reradiated. The source of the CO2 is the burning of fossil fuels.

The present denial is simply the artifact of the fact that we will have to make some major changes as the consequences, already began, overtake our society.

 

[Oddball]

AHHHHHH!!!....I'm mellllting!!!

 

[rdean]

(Remember the East Anglia University e-mail cache that suddenly got loosed upon the world? Here's more where that came from and it ain't looking good for Doctor mann & Co. Al, it might be time to cash in your chips, sell that jet while you can still get some money for it. Go easy on the maseuses. They're just hard working gal trying to make a living.)

"Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary [...]"

"What appears to be a new batch of emails and other documents from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit has been released.

"Contents include more than 5,000 emails and other documents, some relating to work with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

A similar release in 2009 triggered the "ClimateGate" affair and accusations of fraud that inquiries later dismissed.

Now, as then, the release comes shortly before the annual UN climate summit.

The university has yet to comment on the document cache, which is posted on a Russian server"

I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run."

small dead animals: Climategate 2.0

Your link underscores why right wingers don't usually link. It's to a bunch of blogs. You might was well link to California Girl.

 

[Big Fitz]

The reactions of the Chicken Little Chorus is proof enough that it's a religion, not science.

 

[alan1]

I didn't realize East Anglia University had a monopoly on the scientific consensus of climate change.

It would be nice if this could be tracked back to more than just an anonymous blogger's page and it was more then selected passages from "5000" e-mails.

Climategate 2? More UEA hacked emails - Telegraph

This might help, the Telegraph is usually reasonably unbiased - although as a source it is right leaning.

The University of East Anglia doesn't have a monopoly on anything... it is, however, a key part of the international research into climate change.

Pretty much most AGW theory is based upon the data provided by East Anglia. Much of which is now being shown to be manipulated for political purpose. (for the second time)

 

[konradv]

I didn't realize East Anglia University had a monopoly on the scientific consensus of climate change.

It would be nice if this could be tracked back to more than just an anonymous blogger's page and it was more then selected passages from "5000" e-mails.

Climategate 2? More UEA hacked emails - Telegraph

This might help, the Telegraph is usually reasonably unbiased - although as a source it is right leaning.

The University of East Anglia doesn't have a monopoly on anything... it is, however, a key part of the international research into climate change.

Pretty much most AGW theory is based upon the data provided by East Anglia. Much of which is now being shown to be manipulated for political purpose. (for the second time)

If it was, it's merely a reaction to rampant politicization by skeptics/deniers. These are scientists, not politicians. That's the only reason they were more open about what they're doing, than the kind of seasoned politcal pros their adversaries are employing. I doubt the skeptic think tanks would want their private emails read for political content. Now that WOULD BE revealing!!!

 

[Oddball]

Damn, s0n, are you blind!

If one thing that this scandal has shown, in giant brightly lit letters, it's that the IPCC/East Anglia/UCAR/NCAR/Penn State axis is all about the politics over the supposed science.

Best quit mainlining the Kool-Aid.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Look at the tree rings, you are getting sleepy, so sleepy, the manmade global warming is making you drowsy

 

[konradv]

The reactions of the Chicken Little Chorus is proof enough that it's a religion, not science.

Calling it a relgion is proof enough that you don't have any logical arguments.

 

[konradv]

Damn, s0n, are you blind!

If one thing that this scandal has shown, in giant brightly lit letters, it's that the IPCC/East Anglia/UCAR/NCAR/Penn State axis is all about the politics over the supposed science.

Best quit mainlining the Kool-Aid.

What scandal? Stealing people's emails? You guys are just too hypocritical for words. You can't come up with logical arguments to defend your position, so you've got mine off-the-cuff personal communications, twist them to suit your bias and then blame them for the very thing the skeptics/deniers are doing, politicizing the issue! Sorry, go sell those used goods elsewhere.

 

[Old Rocks]

Once again, care to show us one Scienntific Society, one National Academy of Science, or one major Univesity making a policy statement that denies the reality of AGW, one that states that the increase of GHGs in not the reason for the rapid warming that we are experiancing. The American Geophysical Union has most climate scientists of any single scientific society in the world. Here is their statement concerning global warming;

AGU Releases New Statement Addressing Human Impacts on Climate


FYI: The AIP Bulletin of Science Policy News
AGU Releases New Statement Addressing Human Impacts on Climate
Richard M. Jones
Number 14 - January 30, 2008 | Search FYI | FYI Archives | Subscribe to FYI

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Scientists representing the American Geophysical Union released a new statement on climate change on January 24th, that says, “Earth’s climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming.” The statement, an update of the AGU’s 2003 climate change position statement, says that when the scientific data related to warming is studied, “the human footprint on Earth is apparent.” In releasing Human Impacts on Climate Change, the organization’s strongest statement to date on the impact of global warming, AGU president Timothy Killeen said, “the changes we’re seeing are best explained by greenhouse gas emissions and aerosol loading in the atmosphere caused by human activity.”

The statement says that “as of 2006, eleven of the previous twelve years were warmer than any others since 1850 [when official weather record-keeping began in the U.S.].” The statement, approved unanimously in December by the Council of AGU, goes on to say that, “Many components of the climate system - including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons - are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained [by the increase in greenhouse gas emissions] generated by human activity during the 20th Century.”

 

[LAfrique]

(Remember the East Anglia University e-mail cache that suddenly got loosed upon the world? Here's more where that came from and it ain't looking good for Doctor mann & Co. Al, it might be time to cash in your chips, sell that jet while you can still get some money for it. Go easy on the maseuses. They're just hard working gal trying to make a living.)

"Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary [...]"

"What appears to be a new batch of emails and other documents from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit has been released.

"Contents include more than 5,000 emails and other documents, some relating to work with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

A similar release in 2009 triggered the "ClimateGate" affair and accusations of fraud that inquiries later dismissed.

Now, as then, the release comes shortly before the annual UN climate summit.

The university has yet to comment on the document cache, which is posted on a Russian server"

I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run."

small dead animals: Climategate 2.0

Global Warming is not and has never been fictitious. The argument on global warming has to do with the causes of global warming. No one is in denial about the fact that Planet Earth has indeed been warming.

 

[westwall]

I didn't realize East Anglia University had a monopoly on the scientific consensus of climate change.

It would be nice if this could be tracked back to more than just an anonymous blogger's page and it was more then selected passages from "5000" e-mails.

The emails show pretty categorically that the CRU is the nexus for the fraud. It is amazing that Mann, Jones, Trenberth, and Briffa have been able to co-opt the science of climatology and pervert it to their ends. They have done immeasurable damage to science in general and have pretty much discredited climatology as a science. It will take decades to rehabilitate it's status as a science, if it ever does.