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IControlThePast said:Ah, more MSM conspiracy theories of Newsweek against the military and against Republicans. Newsweek and the MSM are for whatever will make them money. Who let the MSM bias loose? Reagan by cancelling the media's Fairness Doctrine. Why would Reagan remove the rules for controlling bias if there was a huge liberal MSM? Why wouldn't any conservatives put the filter back in place?
CSM said:It's Reagans fault that Newsweek knowingly lied???? You are really stretching now...but I forget another "truth" is that everything is someone else's fault and that someone else is ALWAYS Republican.
Aw c'mon...read your own post!IControlThePast said:How are you drawing "it must be Reagan's fault" from "if the MSM is so liberal why did conservatives remove the bias control." The MSM is just out to make money, not to support liberals, and Newsweek didn't knowingly lie. If they did intentionally lie, then they knew they would make less money by losing credibility, circulation, and sponsors, yet did it anyways. That doesn't make much sense. As Rush says, "Follow the money."
You don't make much sense. The MSM is only in it for the money, not to support liberals? The behavior of CBS and others show your remark to be false. Yes, the MSM wants to make money. In addition they directly follow their left-leaning political agendas. For example, the US military has tried to accomodate the MSM in Iraq through the policy of "embedded" reporting. What did it get for its trouble? A constant stream of reports about suicide and roadside bombings. Body count is the principle story that interests the MSM. There was (and still is) very little reporting about the rebuilding of Iraq and the billions in reconconstruction aid pouring into the country. If that is not left-leaning anti-military reporting, what is?IControlThePast said:How are you drawing "it must be Reagan's fault" from "if the MSM is so liberal why did conservatives remove the bias control." The MSM is just out to make money, not to support liberals, and Newsweek didn't knowingly lie. If they did intentionally lie, then they knew they would make less money by losing credibility, circulation, and sponsors, yet did it anyways. That doesn't make much sense. As Rush says, "Follow the money."
IControlThePast said:I don't question the fault in their journalistic integrity, although Newsweek's inaccuracy doesn't mean Bloggers are accurate. Most blog errors go unaccounted for, while mass media ones are often quite blaring (because we have bloggers).
IControlThePast said:The Terrorists don't believe in the credibility of the western mass media, they were just picking any excuse. If they really cared about Islam they wouldn't be Terrorists in the first place.
IControlThePast said:Who let the MSM bias loose? Reagan by cancelling the media's Fairness Doctrine.
krisy said:Afgahn Muslim Clerics are going to declare holy war against the U.S. in three days if we do not hand over the interrogators in question??!!!!! You gotta be kidding me!! The pompass attitudes just slay me.
As far as Newsweek goes,they won't learn their lesson. Just another chapter in trying to make the U.S. military look bad.
You appear to be more upset that the bloggers point out the MSM errors than you are about the MSM making them.IControlThePast said:Most blog errors go unaccounted for, while mass media ones are often quite blaring (because we have bloggers).
IControlThePast said:Newsweek was just trying to do its job, make money, by being the first to break a story and got a bad source in the rush.
The White House said on Monday that a Newsweek report based on an anonymous source had damaged the U.S. image overseas by alleging that U.S. interrogators desecrated the Koran at Guantanamo Bay.
The May 9 report triggered several days of rioting in Afghanistan and other countries in which at least 16 people were killed.
Newsweek's editor, Mark Whitaker, apologized to the victims on Sunday and said the magazine inaccurately reported that U.S. military investigators had confirmed that personnel at the detention facility in Cuba had flushed the Muslim holy book down the toilet.
"It's puzzling that while Newsweek now acknowledges that they got the facts wrong, they refused to retract the story," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "I think there's a certain journalistic standard that should be met and in this instance it was not."
The report sparked violent protests across the Muslim world -- from Afghanistan, where 16 were killed and more than 100 injured, to Pakistan, Indonesia and Gaza. In the past week the reported desecration was condemned in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Malaysia and by the Arab League.
freeandfun1 said:I wonder how many Bibles are desecrated every day in Muslim nations and nobody says squat about it....
BR-549 said:the World Court on charges of Negligent Homocide. Their lies, er, ah, bad source, inaccuracies, resulted in a couple dozen deaths, Not to mention the further demeaning of The United States' reputation in the islamic world.. Always thought Isikoff was a neo-communist yellow journalist of the highest order but this amounts to willfull negligence resulting in multiple homicides. If this had occured in The United States he could have well been brought up for criminal as well as, of course , civil charges. And now Newsweek won't retract the story. Honestly who in the HELL does the mainstream media think they are? God? This is just more proof, in an ongoing exposure before the American people and the world, that the mainstream media in The United States is an out of control, neo-communist group, of irresponsible lying mouthpieces that will DO ANYTHING AND SAY ANYTHING if it makes America and especially Republicans or conservatives look bad. Newsweek should have its' presses shut down and its' publication ceased forthwith. It is to the point that a person cannot believe a damn thing said by the mainstream media. I for one, if they told me the sun was shining, would stick my head out just to make sure.. They have an agenda, neo-marxist/communist, and that has completely blinded them to any truth or fact.. SAD TRULY SAD!!!
Without an fourth estate that the American people can rely upon for news and truth about events in our society an essential part of our democracy is dead. And they weren't shut down by dictators, silenced by laws from Congress, or restricted by gag orders from the Courts. They killed themselves with their own lies. PATHETIC!!!!!
CAIRO, May 16, 2005 Newsweek magazine may have apologized, but to many in the Muslim world, it's too late and much too little.
Muslims brushed off an apology to readers that appeared in this week's edition of the newsweekly that acknowledged errors in a story alleging U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay desecrated the Koran, Islam's holy book. Interestingly enough, Newsweek has an Arabic issue but there was no mention of the apology in this week's issue. Critics called it a strategic move in the face of the overwhelming and violent reaction. The report sparked protests in Afghanistan, where at least 15 were killed and more than 100 injured.
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Many Muslims believe Newsweek succumbed to pressure from the U.S. government to backtrack. Many believe that that whatever the truth may be, the harm has been done.
Saudi Arabia was the first country to officially react by asking for an investigation. It was followed by blanket condemnation and demands for investigation from all over the region by officially appointed mainstream clerics or governments.
In Egypt, the Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar, Sheikh Mohammed Sayed Tantawi, the highest Sunni authority in the world, usually a subdued man, demanded immediate action. "The Koran's desecration is a great crime and should be dealt with at once," he said.
Reaction to the Newsweek article, which appeared in the May 9th issue, has been particularly virulent for a number of reasons.
In the Muslim world, Guantanamo has become the symbol of the confrontation between Islam and the U.S. The fact that this allegedly happened in Guantanamo makes things much worse. A member of the Muslim Brotherhood said perhaps if it had happened somewhere else, it would not have resonated so much.
Secondly, the Koran is part of the Muslim identity. By desecrating the Koran, one is desecrating the identity of all Muslims. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, desecration of the Koran is punishable by death, which explains the more violent reaction to the Newsweek story.
Many analysts believe this episode will just increase the level of distrust. The Arab world, especially the Middle East, is more likely to believe such reports after the prison scandal at Abu Ghraib in Iraq.
CSM said:Aw c'mon...read your own post!
"Who let the MSM bias loose? Reagan by cancelling the media's Fairness Doctrine."
onedomino said:You don't make much sense. The MSM is only in it for the money, not to support liberals? The behavior of CBS and others show your remark to be false. Yes, the MSM wants to make money. In addition they directly follow their left-leaning political agendas. For example, the US military has tried to accomodate the MSM in Iraq through the policy of "embedded" reporting. What did it get for its trouble? A constant stream of reports about suicide and roadside bombings. Body count is the principle story that interests the MSM. There was (and still is) very little reporting about the rebuilding of Iraq and the billions in reconconstruction aid pouring into the country. If that is not left-leaning anti-military reporting, what is?
musicman said:Horseshit. The blogospherre is a hundred times more accurate than the MSM/DNC, because it polices itself. The blogosphere is free, and therefore beholden to no one. No inaccuracy is safe; how could it be?
Steaming, malodorous and never-ending horseshit. Islam is a murderous, intolerant religion with no regard for the free will of man. People are marked for death for as much as criticizing the Koran - or have you never heard of Salman Rushdie?
musicman said:So, the media were fair, objective and honest before that. What are you smoking, man?
And why is it that only the liberals are fighting so desperately to reinstate this horseshit? What is it about the light of day that they find so frightening?
I'm not upset at all that the bloggers have pointed out the errors. We deserve to see whenever we've been misled.wolverine said:You appear to be more upset that the bloggers point out the MSM errors than you are about the MSM making them.
