The 'Dangerous' Faith of President Bush

[Avatar4321]

To convice me the President is imposing his faith on me? Yeah, I think you do.

Zhukov, i think you need to remember that Bully and the other libs have special deffinitions for everything they say. When they say "Bush is imposing his religion on us" What they really mean is that the President actually has the audacity to be open about his faith and practiices what he believes. He doesnt hide his faith to please religious bigots such as bully. It burns the left to believe that someoen who actually exercises their first amendment rights can be in a position of power.

 

[Bonnie]

As exampled by the comment that Christian majority representation in governemnt equates to Tyranny by majority?

 

[dilloduck]

People who have no means of realizing a sense of personal well being in universal eternity must attack those who do or even claim they do. It is a threat to their very core fears of separation, aloneness, death and non-existence. These people MUST refute and demonize those who have made personal existential resolutions or face a fear that they are too frightened to. They turn into clingers (I like to call em Klingons for kicks) to defend themselves. Immediate gratification, materialism, and remote causes become the means for them to attempt avoid the unavoidable. Saving a whale or a tree becomes snake-oil disguised as an elixer. I'd feel sorry for em but it would be a waste of emotion. Hopefully they'll come around on their own.

 

[Joz]

His view that his presidency is "divinely ordained"...His statements that God "told" him to go to war with Iraq...Need I go on?

And you don't think this is possible??
Thru out history, the kingdoms, countries, etc , those who recognized God, prospered & stayed in power. It's when they turned their backs on Him that they met their demise. If Bush humbles himself before God & asks for his guidance, he'll get it.....even to war. He IS the leader of a great & powerful nation. I think more should be glad they're here.

 

[5stringJeff]

His view that his presidency is "divinely ordained"...

Zhukov already responded to your other assertions but I want to tackle this one. The fact is that the Bible says that all world leaders are in power because God allows it: "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
" (Romans 13:1-2) So by the same logic, Clinton was allowed to be President, as was Bush 41, Reagan, Carter, Ford, etc. It's not that Bush is claiming anything unique, he's acknowledging the source of all governmental authority.

 

[White knight]

When Bush pulled out his sword and started waving it to the four corners of the earth and talking about the Axis of Evil, and all this talk about evildoers.
That appears to be a very simplistic and religious view of things. It made many in the states and overseas uneasy.
Would his religious views set the tone for his foreign policy? Was he going to undertake a campaign based on his faith, to rid the world of the evildoers?
That is a scary thought for some one who is in possession of the football.

 

[CSM]

When Bush pulled out his sword and started waving it to the four corners of the earth and talking about the Axis of Evil, and all this talk about evildoers.
That appears to be a very simplistic and religious view of things. It made many in the states and overseas uneasy.
Would his religious views set the tone for his foreign policy? Was he going to undertake a campaign based on his faith, to rid the world of the evildoers?
That is a scary thought for some one who is in possession of the football.

It was even scarier when the guy who had possession of the football decided to hand it over to the North Koreans.

 

[ajwps]

Zhukov, i think you need to remember that Bully and the other libs have special deffinitions for everything they say. When they say "Bush is imposing his religion on us" What they really mean is that the President actually has the audacity to be open about his faith and practiices what he believes. He doesnt hide his faith to please religious bigots such as bully. It burns the left to believe that someoen who actually exercises their first amendment rights can be in a position of power.

Avatar actually Bush doesn't open up or talk about his faith unless someone asks him a question concerning his beliefs.

John Kerry has a plan.....

I voted early for John Kerry until I voted against him.....

 

[ajwps]

When Bush pulled out his sword and started waving it to the four corners of the earth and talking about the Axis of Evil, and all this talk about evildoers.
That appears to be a very simplistic and religious view of things. It made many in the states and overseas uneasy.
Would his religious views set the tone for his foreign policy? Was he going to undertake a campaign based on his faith, to rid the world of the evildoers?
That is a scary thought for some one who is in possession of the football.

What appears to some to be very simplistic is usually observed by a simple mind while complexity and reality is for an intellectual mind.

If Bush had not been decisive in taking the war waged against America to the lands of the terrorists, those same haters of humanity and who wish to destroy us would have quickly destroyed the rest of those 'peoiple' in many states and the world uneasy.

John Kerry talks about the upper class taking advantage of the middle class and the lower class being taken advantage of by the middle class and upper class.

John is simply repeating the mantra of Karl Marx, father of socialism/communism.

America is based on many peoples who can use their initiative and have the opportunity to move to any level of society one chooses.

John Kerry exploits American class warfare to divide and conquer. Under Kerry's PLAN, anyone who attempts to pull himself or herself up by their own bootstraps and make themselves more comfortable in this land of freedom become the enemy of the classes as seen by the democrats.

 

[White knight]

Staying on topic,
I was just stating why some people have a problem with a leader who is so guided by his faith. This has been covered by the media.
My post has nothing to do with whatever you spouting off about.

 

[White knight]

It was even scarier when the guy who had possession of the football decided to hand it over to the North Koreans.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

 

[White knight]

What appears to some to be very simplistic is usually observed by a simple mind while complexity and reality is for an intellectual mind.

Finaly I have found something I can agree about with you.
I would go on to explain this, but that would just put us in disagreement again.

 

[missredeyes]

well since most of you can't comprehend what bush is doing with his faith..
here are some links showing you how he is trying to force his faith on others..
including other countries in various examples (different programs to help the sick, poor, etc). its not just happening here at home.. its happening throughout the world.

again.. there isn't anything wrong with ANY belief, because we are given the right to choose what we want to believe in.

the president is allowed his own faith.. that is his right of choice in what he believes. but he continues to try to push his faith in our system.. that is WRONG.

like many of you have brought up in this thread.. about why kerry isn't being targeted regarding his faith.. and its simple.. because he realizes that everyone is intitled their own right to choose a faith, and he has no control over that. as no one person does..

you can not control faith of any belief.. and who chooses it..
and you most certainly should not use faith as your reasoning when you are president. you should be using facts, intelligence reports, etc.

http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/5454/1/222/

http://www.humanismbyjoe.com/Faith_Based_Initiatives.htm

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0OBW/is_8_41/ai_98828369

http://www.irregulartimes.com/secularamericans.html

http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/2417/1/3?TopicID=1

http://www.opednews.com/lang040804_bush_christian_fascism.htm

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/204/1/32

http://www.indolink.com/displayArticleS.php?id=101804010714

 

[dilloduck]

How about some American links (not marxist)

 

[Bonnie]

Interesting Red how all these sites are extemely liberally biased.........Secondly the reason no -one is taking kerry to task for his faith is he has none, the media, and other elites are fully aware of this, that was the point of the article.......What you are saying is yes lets all have our faith but it should never influence the decisions we make everyday in our lives...........Thats absolutely ridiculous!!!!!!!!! Bush did use intelligence reports, that by many had incorrect information of which he based his decisons on. Make up your mind, did he use his faith or bad intelligence..Can't have it both ways to suit your assertions.

 

[ajwps]

Staying on topic,
I was just stating why some people have a problem with a leader who is so guided by his faith. This has been covered by the media.
My post has nothing to do with whatever you spouting off about.

So you are interested in promulgating that Bush is driven by only his faith. Are you saying that Bush should be driven by Islam or some form of self-serving interests based upon anything but that what is right and what is wrong for the people of the United States?

John Kerry is for religion in his leadership before he changed his mind and now is guided by immorality.

 

[ajwps]

well since most of you can't comprehend what bush is doing with his faith.. here are some (erroneous and misleading) links showing you how he is trying to force his faith on others.. including other countries in various examples (different programs to help the sick, poor, etc). its not just happening here at home.. its happening throughout the world. again.. there isn't anything wrong with ANY belief, because we are given the right to choose what we want to believe in. the president is allowed his own faith.. that is his right of choice in what he believes. but he continues to try to push his faith in our system.. that is WRONG.

like many of you have brought up in this thread.. about why kerry isn't being targeted regarding his faith.. and its simple.. because he realizes that everyone is intitled their own right to choose a faith, and he has no control over that. as no one person does.. you can not control faith of any belief.. and who chooses it.. and you most certainly should not use faith as your reasoning when you are president. you should be using facts, intelligence reports, etc.

It seem that President Bush is attempting to not only push his faith off on all Americans but he is attempting to get a law that only white, anglo-saxon, white men are entitled to life in this Christian Bush country.

Don't miss the Bush Inquisition. Torture chambers for all unbelievers.

 

[dilloduck]

It seem that President Bush is attempting to not only push his faith off on all Americans but he is attempting to get a law that only white, anglo-saxon, white men are entitled to life in this Christian Bush country.

Don't miss the Bush Inquisition. Torture chambers for all unbelievers.

Don't bitch AJ or we won't send you any more bombs :

 

[deaddude]

It seem that President Bush is attempting to not only push his faith off on all Americans but he is attempting to get a law that only white, anglo-saxon, white men are entitled to life in this Christian Bush country.

Don't miss the Bush Inquisition. Torture chambers for all unbelievers.

Emphasis added.

They will be all alone, with no women. Poor guys.

 

[White knight]

well since most of you can't comprehend what bush is doing with his faith..
here are some links showing you how he is trying to force his faith on others..

Now you struck upon something!
I have heard complaints from others through the liberal (added for the benefit of “neocons”) media, that Mr. Bush has found ways to force other policy into action. His administration, has found ways to circumvent the political process. This sounds like a recurring theme for this administration.
These are some of the complaints that the liberal (again added for the benefit of “neocons”) opponents of his policies complain about.
Maybe somebody else wants to do the research, but I think these are some of the issues having to do with these complaints.
EPA- clean air act
Possibly Artic drilling or drilling in Alaska
Again the issue is the manner in which force was used to circumvent the democratic process.