The Crusades and Islam Conflict -- In Five Minutes:

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    Even though things presently seem relatively peaceful here in the U.S. all of the West is in serious danger. Islam is rising steadily and is fanatically dedicated to assuming control of Europe, Scandinavia, and the U.S. -- and enslaving all of its indigenous, non-Muslim inhabitants. This conflict with Islam is not new. Unfortunately we in the modern West have come to ignore a very important part of our history -- The Crusades and our violent conflict with the Middle East.

    It is important that we in the West know what the Crusades were and why the conflict hasn't ended. So take five minutes to educate yourself on this critically important topic. Go here:

     
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    Oh my!! .... :alirulz:
     
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    Christians everywhere are also increasingly victims of Crusader Guilt taught in history courses at every level of our education systems. How many Christians on the fence in believing in the faith of their fathers or adolescent Westerners verging on adulthood have turned to atheism over hatred inspired by false narratives of the Crusades? Further, how many modern, relatively uneducated Western leaders and parliamentarians have implemented pro-Muslim biased immigration and state policies--including special political protections-- out of guilt for their ancestors so-called uncalled for "savagery" during the Crusades?

    Muslims and Westerners can coexist, but only in so far as Christianity and Western traditional heritage remain the dominant culture, and Western democratic law and political theory rules the day. In Western societies Muslims must allow themselves to be assimilated into Western culture if they seek to live in peace and enjoy the benefits of Western prosperity. Anywhere in the West that allows or champions the politicization of Islam, and election of radical Islamic candidates to its public offices, will undergo complete cultural change and suffer the loss of its most sacred heritage and way of life.
     
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    To be fair, the First Crusade in 1095 started with Pope Urban II calling on his flock to rise up against the infidels who were living in the Holy Land (mostly Jews, Muslims, and other Xtians). So, they marched from Europe to Constantinople to take up his call.

    Pausing only occasionally to wipe out some Jewish communities on the way.
     
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    Jews during that time period immigrated to Muslim controlled lands for protection from the hoards of Christian barbarians who slaughtered everybody who wasn't of the Catholic faith. .... :cool:
     
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    Actually it was a group (name escapes me) who were on their way to Israel, discovered they were too lazy and stopped in Spain to practice racism
     
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    During the first Crusade, as Count Emicho of Leiningen and his renegade troop of criminals raped and pillage Jewish communities along the Rhine, local bishops tried to stop them and the Church strongly condemned theirs and all other anti-Jewish violence. Attacking and plundering Jews was neither approved by the Church or the goal or policy of the majority of the Crusaders. Narrating the history of the Crusades in that light his highly misleading.

    The words of St. Bernard just prior to the Second Crusade:

    "Ask anyone who knows the Sacred Scriptures what he finds foretold of the Jews in the Psalm. "Not for their destruction do I pray," it says. The Jews are for us the living words of Scripture, for they remind us always of what our Lord suffered.... Under Christian princes they endure a hard captivity, but "they only wait for the time of their deliverance."
     
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    The first wave of Pope Urban's Crusade, the 'People's Crusade' consisted of about 20,000 ordinary peasants led by a guy named 'Peter the Hermit' who walked from modern-day Germany through Romania and Bulgaria to arrive in Constantinople. From there, they branched off into modern day Turkey, Syria, and Israel.

    The main contingent of French knights of the First Crusade, went from France through Italy and Greece to Constantinople before marching through modern day Turkey to the Holy Land.
     
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    Nothing says Crusaders were just nice guys out to defeat the evil Muslims like the Crusaders sacking Christian Constantinople.

    Along with a few other Christian cities along the way.
     
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    This was the beginning of a counter attack against Muslim Invasion. The Battle of Tours stopped the Muslims from possibly taking all of Europe.

    From that point forward......the countries finally banded to get the church to create a crusade to drive the invaders back home and retake Jerusalem.
     
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