The Cost of Marijuana Prohibition:

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    "Arresting hundreds of thousands of Americans who smoke marijuana responsibly needlessly destroys the lives of otherwise law abiding citizens," St. Pierre said, adding that nearly 9 million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges in the past ten years. During this same time, arrests for cocaine and heroin have declined sharply, implying that increased enforcement of marijuana laws is being achieved at the expense of enforcing laws against the possession and trafficking of more dangerous drugs.In fact, October 10, 2008 will mark the arrest of the 20 millionth cannabis consumer arrested under cannabis prohibition, circa 1937.

    St. Pierre concluded: "Enforcing marijuana prohibition costs taxpayers between $10 billion and $12 billion annually and has led to the arrest of nearly 20 million Americans. Nevertheless, nearly 100 million Americans acknowledge having used marijuana during their lives. It makes no sense to continue to treat nearly half of all Americans as criminals for their use of a substance that poses far fewer health risks than alcohol or tobacco. A better and more sensible solution would be to tax and regulate cannabis in a manner similar to alcohol and tobacco."


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    You do realize of course that when and if weed is legalized, state and federal governments are gonna' tax the shit out of it?

    Your cheap little high will become unbearably expensive so you'll switch to a different illegal drug... and cycle will never end.

    If you dopers were smart, and I'm not saying you are but if you were smart you would claim that smoking dope is a "civil liberty" and that government should leave you alone.

    But stupidly, you demand that government legalize it so they can control it which will only end up with them fucking it all up.

    Some people never learn.
     
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    ^^ He's right you know, this happened in... uh... this happened... err... Oh wait, there's no evidence of this ever happening. Ever.
     
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    Except for when prohibition was repealed and everyone started using opium to avoid taxes- and just look at how many smokers turn to crystal meth every time taxes on cigarettes go up!





















    none!




    wait..
     
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    I think it should be legal to possess but illegal to sell...and legal to grow.

    That would be a huge burden off the taxpayer...or the money could be spent elsewhere
     
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    Actually, that is EXACTLY how it happened in the case of Marijuana.

    When they originally decided to declare war on this weed, understanding that they did NOT have the constitutional right to outlaw it entirely, they set about the business of ending its use by IMPOSING TAXES ON IT.

    The game went like this.

    Marijuna was legal if you purchased a MARIJUANA STAMP.

    But no STAMPS were issued.

    Ergo?

    Untaxed marijuana cultivation and sales or purchase became a FEDERAL tax crime punishable by fine, incarceration, or both.

    Exerpt from Catch 22 by Joseph Heller
     
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    Well, but what you're saying is the opposite of what he's saying. Yeah, they're both 'taxes', but it is one thing to tax it because its legal and another is to "tax" is to effectively make it illegal.

    Love Catch 22, though. Great book, been meaning to read it again! :clap2:
     
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    And now time for your weekly "we need to legalize marijuana" thread.
     
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    Did I misinterpret his meaning?

    My apologies.

    Catch 22 is a brilliant exposé of human foibles taken to the extremes both collectively -- by government (in that case the military) and private enterprize (in the form of "the Syndicate" and Milo Minderbinder) -- and by people simply driven mad by the Kafkian nightmare of the modern world.

    Although I haven't done a study of it, I SUSPECT that each character is probably a fictional manifestation of some philosophical approach to dealing with the world gone mad.

    Yossarian is the quintessential modern man.

    He has no faith or philosophy to protect him from the outcome of being SANE in a world gone INSANE.

     
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    Yes.

    Right. Because us little people have been priced out of drinking alcohol.

    I agree that would be ideal. Too bad it's an unrealistic goal.

    Thanks for the "advice" but I will continue to fight for legalizing and regulating. A fight that can be won in the real world.
     
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