The Construction of an American Political lie

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    Until our leaders start fessing up to what has been done in the name of protecting America, we as the true overseers of this government need to start becoming a more informed citizenry.

    Soleimani
    Tue Jan 7th 2020 by abagond

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    Qasem Soleimani (1957-2020), also spelled “Suleimani”, was the Iranian general the US killed last week in Baghdad, on January 2nd 2020 at 22:00 UTC (it was one in the morning the next day in Iraq).

    In the US almost no one knew who he was, but now the press is saying he was a Horrible Terrible Person, worse than Osama bin Laden (the head of Al Qaeda) or Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (the head of ISIS), both of whom the US also assassinated.

    As CNBC, a supposedly serious news outlet, tweeted, in its own voice:

    “America just took out the world’s no. 1 bad guy”

    And that was not even Fox News on the far-right!

    If Soleimani was that terrible, why did the press say so little about him before he was killed? He has been a general in Iran since the 1980s – he was hardly hiding under a rock.

    Before and after: Compare the Wikipedia before and after his death:

    On December 27th, the second paragraph:

    “Soleimani hailed from a humble background. He began his military career since the beginning of the Iran–Iraq War of the 1980s, during which he commanded the 41st Division. He was later involved in extraterritorial operations, providing military assistance to anti-Saddam Shia and Kurdish groups in Iraq, and later Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian territories. In 2012, Soleimani helped bolster the Syrian government, a key Iranian ally, during the Syrian Civil War. Soleimani also assisted in the command of combined Iraqi government and Shia militia forces that advanced against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) in 2014–2015.[19]”

    On January 7th, today:

    “Soleimani began his military career at the start of the Iran–Iraq War during the 1980s, eventually commanding the 41st Division. He was later involved in extraterritorial operations, providing military assistance to Hezbollah in Lebanon. In 2012, Soleimani helped bolster the government of Bashar al-Assad, a key Iranian ally, during Iran’s operations in the Syrian Civil War and helped to plan the Russian military intervention in Syria.[20] Soleimani oversaw the Kurdish and Shia militia forces in Iraq, and assisted the Iraqi forces that advanced against ISIL in 2014–2015.[21][22] Soleimani was one of the first to support Kurdish forces, providing them with arms.[23][24] He maintained a low profile during most of his career.”

    Compare: Both paragraphs might be perfectly true – they are not logically contradictory. But notice the change in emphasis: two good things about him have been taken out (humble origins, anti-Saddam) and two bad ones added (pro-Assad, helps Russia). Good and bad, that is, from a US point of view! Just over half the edits made to the English-language Wikipedia come from the US.

    Demonization: Soleimani, as you might expect, fought both for and against US enemies. He was, be it noted, a general for Iran, not the US. And Iran, be it further noted, is not some rebel province of the US empire. But now that President Trump has killed him, Soleimani is being demonized, flattened into a Hollywood “bad guy”. Why?

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    IM2, do a Google search with a custom time frame. The Fake News, Democrat Party channels like MSNBC and CNN love the terrorist now, but knew he was an anti-civilization, pro-Terrorist Muslim savage 5-10 years ago and was a factor in the failure of Iraq to embrace liberation.
     
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    We gotta use those missiles on someone...

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    They don't last forever.
     
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    Democrat desperation


    TDS level upgraded.
     
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    IM2 kneels at the Democrat Party altar.

    You're wasting your time.
     
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    Because Iran has, is and until further notice will be an enemy of this country.

    The Iranian General was behind hundreds of American deaths and just because he was a General does not excuse his action.

    Also had Obama done this you would be either silent or applauding this, so let be clear you are just upset a white boy order the killing of that butcher...
     
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    Until our leaders start fessing up to what has been done in the name of protecting America, we as the true overseers of this government need to start becoming a more informed citizenry. What about Obama is no good here, because I am talking about the actions of EVERY administration since the end of WW2 and that includes this one.

    So you can stop sucking trumps thang about this and start demanding that our government stop doing this shit.
     
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    Sanctions imposed after Trump pulled out of JOPAC
    Trump pulls US out of Iran deal
    Iran attacks our (American) Iraqi embassy

    Note they didn't attack the French, German , Brit, or any other embassy....

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    Rather be a democrat than a klan member.
     
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