The Constitutional Myths of the right

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    Well it was good while it lasted, and wasn't really pushing the constitution just doing some corrections of those here who brought it up.
    I don't think it or anything else will stop the rapid decline going on now.
     
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    The only way I will be convinced that any of the supposed intelligence will help us is if one of you can tell me if free speech has a purpose, and if there is an ultimate purpose?

    C'mon Einstein & Einstein, you can do it.
     
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    Dude, you know Scalia's dead, right?
     
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    We need to follow the Constitution, instead of the contradictory judicial revisions made by activist judges, something Democrats are loath to do, and barely understand.
     
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    Yes, free speech is important for one reason, when government can control what you say, you are then either very close to, or are actually living in, a police state. Wow, talk about raising a sock puppet from the dead, what did you do, forget your password?:laugh2:
     
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    Wow, an effort at accountability. Commendable! I did hope you would go on and on listing the purposes, explaining their importance.

    Of course the purpose you cite is important, but it is not that simple. I've studied this for a long time and have exclusive sources that have info not recorded in writing. From those, I derive this.

    The ultimate biological purpose of free speech is assure information vital to survival is shared and understood.

    Do you comprehend the basic level I'm coming from westwall? Can you make a guess at the ultimate legal purpose of free speech now that you have some context for the inquiry?
     
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    YES, but the people need to understand the framing documents as the framers intended, which is not easy, because critical information shared between the framers is gone. Their writing were plundered over time to impair the peoples understanding of the intent of the constitution.

    For example, the concept of free speech was shared with them by First Nations leaders within a spiritual, philosophical doctrine.
    The Six Nations, but more specifically the Seneca, who had fought a psychological battle with the agents of the English crown in the ranks of the powerful and influential who were also demanding a role in creating the framing documents, while secretly paying people who would accept their gold to oppose the framers efforts. This made intense competition for inclusion/exclusion of concept in the proposed documents. In that competition the entire doctrine was fragmented and the notion of free speech was separated from the rest of the concepts of the doctrine which were very powerful when used together.

    The doctrine undoubtably was deemed too long and too philosophical to be included in the Declaration of Independence by the torys working to weaken the new nations founding precepts, so "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" was broken off from the rest of the "Greater Meaning" for inclusion in the Declaration of Independence.

    The complete concept of the greater meaning of free speech is as follows:

    The "Greater Meaning Of Free Speech" is or was, an actual, practiced philosophical doctrine by the Six Nations. The "meaning" is derived from an understanding that can come from the practice of free speech. From the understanding can come; forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love, protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
     
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    However true this may be, freedom of expression is a long, firmly held tenet of British common law; while these Indian leaders may have discussed their concept of free speech with the people who created the constitution, its inclusion into same was not in any way dependent on said discussion.

    See:
    A SUMMARY VIEW OF THE RIGHTS OF BRITISH AMERICA. (Jefferson 1774)
    A Summary View of the Rights of British America by Thomas Jefferson
     
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