The conservative mind

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    The mind of a conservative is difficult thing to understand. Just when you think that it is totally selfish, self centered and greedy you come to an issue such as healthcare and the world is stood on its head.

    The mind that supposedly prides itself in the appreciation of good value and service at a competitive price suddenly goes into a tailspin and comes to worship inneficiency and downright price gouging. All in the name of freedom, although what that has to do healthcare is a bit dim.

    It is common sense that doing something differently is not necessarily a bad thing, in some cases it may be innovative or even revolutionary. It is also common sense that if you are the only one in the world using a system that is more expensive with poorer outcomes than any other, the chances of that system being the best approach zero.

    This is the system the conservative mind embraces. It costs more than twice as much as the next most expensive. The outcomes rank with the bottom half of the third world countries. It denies care to from 20 to 30 percent of the population. When that 20 to 30 percent do get care, publically funded, it is are rates suitable for royalty. Twenty to forty percent of the total money spent buys no healthcare at all.

    Why would a sane mind favor such a system? They can’t ALL work for insurance companies. They are always talking about “freedom”. Looking at this logically it is the freedom to be ripped off, denied good care or perhaps any care at all while paying an outrageous price. Logically it makes no sense.

    It would appear the only answer that explains the situation is the immersion of the right wing mind in viscous ideology. According to this mind set the government simply cannot perform a function better than private industry. To hell with all evidence that proves this to be untrue. It is simply a fact that government does many things better than the private sector. The public sector starts out with an immense advantage of not requiring profit. That alone assures better value in many areas such as law enforcement, infrastructure and education. That is simply a fact, proven over and over again.

    To admit this would require the conservative to think. At best this is difficult and thinking about public policy is almost impossible. No, it is better to run around shouting buzzwords like “socialism”. Again it will not do to point out that single payer healthcare has nothing to do with socialism. That is simply by definition.

    The end result is the conservative offers up the worst of all possible worlds in service to their ideology. Expensive, wasteful, poor quality and unavailable. Why do they do this?

    Beats me!
     
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    I liken it to the Plato's Allegory of the cave.

    Allegory of the Cave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's much easier to cringe in darkness then embrace the light.

    The darkness is comforting. It does not require that you deal with reality.
     
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    If you are talking about politicians in general, you are correct. Notice how both sides of the isle usually refuse to do anything the other side proposes? Why does the status quo always win out? People have had some great ideas over the years, yet nothing really changes in washington.

    It's not conservatives, or liberals, or progressives. It's not our constitution, or capitalism, or business that's the problem. It's the political class that's the problem. Refusing to actually make something work. Too scared to take a chance because they want to get re-elected, or hang onto power. They really believe they know better than the folks that pay their bills and lead sucessful lives all on their own. That's where the real problem lies.
     
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    But you favor ocare and mandatory confiscation ie fines and jail if you don't sign up for hc? Yeah, that's freedom. I pay for my own private insurance. I don't expect you to pay my way in hc or any aspect of life.
     
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    You're so fucked up.. And if you think the US is so fucked up then A. explain why millions, literally millions come here illegally, and B. Why you stay,, and C. Where would you go to receive your "free" health care.. and D. I bet your sorry ass doesn't pay Federal Taxes. :lol::lol:
     
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    The mind of a conservative is difficult thing to understand....

    "All good men know their limitations." ...Dirty Harry
     
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    The mind of a Liberal is difficult thing to understand. Just when you think that it is totally selfish, self centered and greedy you come to an issue such as energy production and the world is stood on its head.

    The mind that supposedly prides itself in the appreciation of good value and service at a competitive price suddenly goes into a tailspin and comes to worship inneficiency and downright price gouging known as the "Green Economy". All in the name of "saving the planet", although what that has to do energy production is a bit dim.

    It is common sense that doing something differently is not necessarily a bad thing, in some cases it may be innovative or even revolutionary. It is also common sense that if you are the only one in the world using a system that is more expensive with poorer outcomes than any other (Green Economy), the chances of that system being the best approach zero.

    This is the system the Liberal mind embraces. It costs more than twice as much as the next most expensive. The outcomes rank with the bottom half of the third world countries. It denies energy to from 20 to 30 percent of the population. When that 20 to 30 percent do get energy publically funded, it is are rates suitable for royalty. Twenty to forty percent of the total money spent buys no energy production at all.

    Why would a sane mind favor such a system? They can’t ALL work for companies receiving government subsidies. They are always talking about “freedom”. Looking at this logically it is the freedom to be ripped off, denied cheap energy or perhaps any energy at all while paying an outrageous price. Logically it makes no sense.

    It would appear the only answer that explains the situation is the immersion of the Left wing mind in viscous ideology. According to this mind set the government always performs a function better than private industry. To hell with all evidence that proves this to be untrue. It is simply a fact that government does hardly anything better than the private sector. The public sector starts out with an immense disadvantage of not requiring profit. That alone assures lower value in many areas such as law enforcement, infrastructure and education. That is simply a fact, proven over and over again.

    To admit this would require the Liberal to think. At best this is difficult and thinking about public policy is almost impossible. No, it is better to run around shouting catch phrases like "Hope and Change". Again it will not do to point out that burning food for fuel will drive up fuel and food costs. That is simply by definition.

    The end result is the Liberal offers up the worst of all possible worlds in service to their ideology. Expensive, wasteful, poor quality and unavailable. Why do they do this?

    Beats me!
     
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    Of course you won't understand the mind of a conservative. You refuse to admit the truth as to what conservatism is. Stop lying to yourself with your propaganda and try to understand individual liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom and you will understand the conservative mind quite easily.

    But as long as you put garbage in, you will get garbage out.
     
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    You're so fucked up.. And if you think the US is so fucked up then A. explain why millions, literally millions come here illegally, and B. Why you stay,, and C. Where would you go to receive your "free" health care.. and D. I bet your sorry ass doesn't pay Federal Taxes. :lol::lol:[/QUOTE]

    Your statement simply says there are worse places. Faint praise indeed.
     
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    Once again, the problem isn't liberal vs conservative. This is what happens when the partisans get all the attention. They bicker back and forth, and are the loudest conversation going on. Pretty soon it looks like that's where most people are at. Fortunately most people I know have a mix of those views.
     

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