The conservative backlash is coming

[pans trogladyta]

This is a truly amazing time in our country. The eye of the liberal storm. The conservative backlash is coming. The Arizona law is just the beginning. The Tea Party? Just scratching the surface.

See, you radical lefties desensitized a lot of stuff. The extreme political views, anything goes commentary on Bush, blah blah blah. You played the race card so much we are now immune to it. We don't care anymore if you play it. We no longer feel uncomfortable speaking out and having radical conservative opinions, like abolishing welfare, demanding drug testing for welfare, etc.

The Obama disaster has done nothing but empower and enable all the soccer moms and working dads who before just ignored politics and lived their lives. No more. I truly think the liberals have no idea the type of backlash that is coming their way. They had better get everything they want to pass done in the next 2 years. A radical conservative swing is coming, and Arizona is just the beginning. 15-25 Southern and Southwestern states probably follow the Arizona model within 5 years. After that? Well, we can only hope welfare and entitlement for the lazy is addressed. But this country will get fixed, don't worry.

And libs? You can always move to Greece for your liberal utopia if you don't like it here when we are done. But first......countdown to 01-20-2013.

I think you should wipe the foam off your mouth.

 

[CanIGetA...]

I think the notion that the coming backlash is conservative is being manufactured by the media. Persons on the left and right are upset with the politics of their Establishment. Left persons are discontented with the sellout on the public option and the kowtowing to Wall Street by both Bush and Obama. They want Obama to stop with the juggling act and stand up for left-wing principles and compromise on means not ideals. The white members of the right is backlashing against what they perceive as growing multiculturalism and sate-spending within the Republican party while the right in general is concerned with federal spending and government intervention. Some of these people are reasonable and pragmatic (I think Scott Brown is part of the first wave of these pragmatic "refoundationalists"). However, some of them tend to be very dogmatic and motivated by racial, religious, or class hatred.

 

[Avatar4321]

I think the notion that the coming backlash is conservative is being manufactured by the media. Persons on the left and right are upset with the politics of their Establishment. Left persons are discontented with the sellout on the public option and the kowtowing to Wall Street by both Bush and Obama. They want Obama to stop with the juggling act and stand up for left-wing principles and compromise on means not ideals. The white members of the right is backlashing against what they perceive as growing multiculturalism and sate-spending within the Republican party while the right in general is concerned with federal spending and government intervention. Some of these people are reasonable and pragmatic (I think Scott Brown is part of the first wave of these pragmatic "refoundationalists"). However, some of them tend to be very dogmatic and motivated by racial, religious, or class hatred.

The people didn't want the public option. We didn't want Obamacare period. In any form. We want our leaders to actually be honest with us. We want them to actually follow the Constitution they swore to defend.

It has nothing to do with multiculturalism. I am so sick and tired of you people trying to excuse the fact that people hate your failed ideas because of some sort of false racist agenda. No one gives a damn about race except you. So stop projecting your own issues onto other people.

You people are downright scary in your willingness to just walk all over the people.

 

[pans trogladyta]

I think the notion that the coming backlash is conservative is being manufactured by the media. Persons on the left and right are upset with the politics of their Establishment. Left persons are discontented with the sellout on the public option and the kowtowing to Wall Street by both Bush and Obama. They want Obama to stop with the juggling act and stand up for left-wing principles and compromise on means not ideals. The white members of the right is backlashing against what they perceive as growing multiculturalism and sate-spending within the Republican party while the right in general is concerned with federal spending and government intervention. Some of these people are reasonable and pragmatic (I think Scott Brown is part of the first wave of these pragmatic "refoundationalists"). However, some of them tend to be very dogmatic and motivated by racial, religious, or class hatred.

The people didn't want the public option. We didn't want Obamacare period. In any form. We want our leaders to actually be honest with us. We want them to actually follow the Constitution they swore to defend.

It has nothing to do with multiculturalism. I am so sick and tired of you people trying to excuse the fact that people hate your failed ideas because of some sort of false racist agenda. No one gives a damn about race except you. So stop projecting your own issues onto other people.

You people are downright scary in your willingness to just walk all over the people.

Speaking of projecting.

 

[MarcATL]

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*looking @ Avatar's statement*

That's a Far Right talking-point..."the people" wanted change...real change...not mouth-talk as Obama's been giving us.

We wanted...and still do want healthcare reform.

Its only gotten like a few percentages better...much more revamping to come.

Obama got the ball rolling...but just an inch.

 

[pans trogladyta]

^
*looking @ Avatar's statement*

That's a Far Right talking-point..."the people" wanted change...real change...not mouth-talk as Obama's been giving us.

We wanted...and still do want healthcare reform.

Its only gotten like a few percentages better...much more revamping to come.

Obama got the ball rolling...but just an inch.

Even the republicans admit we need healthcare reform.

 

[HUGGY]

You people are just too delusional.

Have you seen how the Republicans are trying to simultaneously bring the T-Baggers into their ranks and run as far away from them as they can?

Too funny!

I believe the Right is in for a WHOPPING surprise.

LOL!!!

Why on earth would we have to run away from responsible fisical policy and tax policy?

They run away for the obvious reason.
They are afraid of two things.
One isn't an irrational fear. The other is.
They are simple good people afraid of losing what they have gained.... sometimes by hard work. They succeeded enough to catch thier breath and when they look around they see others that have not made it. Because they are in a survival mode they see these others as dead weight and a threat to thier's and thier families own survival. It is a fear of diminishing resources. Something like those wagon trains that got stuck in the winter ...they turn on those that compete with them for what little they percieve is between them and demise.

There is another fear they run from. That is what controls thier destiny is so large that they literally believe that the only way they can come to grips with it is if the physical size of what scares them is smaller. Thus the irrational demand for a smaller government. That is an irrational fear but they believe it anyway and reinforce that irrational idea amongst themselves. The fact that america is as big as it is is a fuction of the size of the population and the vastness of the threats outside our borders. These people just cannot think that big. The shear numbers are too big to grasp..even though when broken down by scale...like thier own need for thier medicare or social security check ..it does not bother them. In fact they defend it.

That is why we ridicule them. They demand what cannot be achieved. They want smaller but when faced with what exactly should be made smaller they stumble and state crazy shit that cannot possibly be made so.

 

[jeffrockit]

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*looking @ Avatar's statement*

That's a Far Right talking-point..."the people" wanted change...real change...not mouth-talk as Obama's been giving us.

We wanted...and still do want healthcare reform.

Its only gotten like a few percentages better...much more revamping to come.

Obama got the ball rolling...but just an inch.

Even the republicans admit we need healthcare reform.

Almost everyone agreed we need HC reform. Most did not agree that the Govt run it and there is the difference.

 

[MarcATL]

You bunch of right-wing liars!

Where is the government "running" healthcare?

The only place this is taking place is the military.

What a bunch of first class FOOLS!

 

[CanIGetA...]

Whether people supported the public option or not was all dependent on how the poll question was phrased. I've read polls saying that Americans overwhelmingly supported the public option and that they overwhelmingly rejected it. I know, however, that the constituency I live in was in numerous polls showed to support the public option yet our Senator was opposed to it.

I think Barack Obama approached health care reform to hastily and therefore had to sacrifice principles in the long-run. I would've begun with putting an end 'pre-existing conditions' and dropping coverage while a person is ill. Then, later, push to expand medicare to all uninsured children. In the last half of the term Obama should've pushed for opt-in public option and limits on private insurance rates. If these limits created a drastic decrease in company profits, then it would be sensible to offer them tax cuts or expanded medical research grants / tax-breaks rather than scrap the limits.

 

[geauxtohell]

The backlash will be against the conservative crazies.

You just summed up my post.

The conservative backlash has been ongoing. The next thing to happen will be the moderates either accepting or rejecting what they are putting out. I've got my money on the latter. The conservatives have done a lousy job of marketing whatever it is they are selling. That's going to hurt them. The best they have been able to do is to prop up the tea parties to try and stymie a President who was overwhelmingly popular when he was elected.

 

[oreo]

Next? You mean after losing Ted's seat? After losing governorships in VA & NJ? After Specter got upset? After Murtha's seat went to a guy preaching the GOP/Tea-Bagger's lines?

You haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until November when the voters can vent. This year should let the pols know what the deal is.

Murtha's seat?

You are aware that the democrat who narrowly won that seat was bashing Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi--aren't you-- There are such things as CONSERVATIVE democrats--they just appear to be an minut minority of the democrat party of today.

 

[geauxtohell]

Next? You mean after losing Ted's seat? After losing governorships in VA & NJ? After Specter got upset? After Murtha's seat went to a guy preaching the GOP/Tea-Bagger's lines?

You haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until November when the voters can vent. This year should let the pols know what the deal is.

Murtha's seat?

You are aware that the democrat who narrowly won that seat was bashing Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi--aren't you-- There are such things as CONSERVATIVE democrats--they just appear to be an minut minority of the democrat party of today.

Actually, say what you want of the Democratic Party, but it takes all comers and tolerates opposition from within the ranks. The lock-step unity comes from the GOP. I don't remember many instances of GOP candidates losing primaries.

 

[Queen]

But you see, the GOP will not have any seats until the Tea Party approves the candidates. The GOP can't move unless it ask the Tea Baggers how far it can move.

You see who the Baggers have chosen? The racist son of the racist Ron Paul. I thinkit is hilarious!!!

Actually the pathetic and lame Rand Paul now has backed down from his opposition of the civil rights act. He's against this:

42 U.S.C. §2000a (a)All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

Civil Rights Division Home Page

But the Republicans told him to stop it.

Now he says he's not against it anymore.

I can at least respect (while being amazed at and disagreeing with) someone who doesn't want the government to make it illegal to discriminate, but now he's backing down for a power grab. And that's so not respectable.

 

[geauxtohell]

But you see, the GOP will not have any seats until the Tea Party approves the candidates. The GOP can't move unless it ask the Tea Baggers how far it can move.

You see who the Baggers have chosen? The racist son of the racist Ron Paul. I thinkit is hilarious!!!

Actually the pathetic and lame Rand Paul now has backed down from his opposition of the civil rights act. He's against this:

42 U.S.C. §2000a (a)All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

Civil Rights Division Home Page

But the Republicans told him to stop it.

Now he says he's not against it anymore.

I can at least respect (while being amazed at and disagreeing with) someone who doesn't want the government to make it illegal to discriminate, but now he's backing down for a power grab. And that's so not respectable.

He was against it before he was for it and then against it again.

 

[Avatar4321]

Actually, say what you want of the Democratic Party, but it takes all comers and tolerates opposition from within the ranks. The lock-step unity comes from the GOP. I don't remember many instances of GOP candidates losing primaries.

No. What the Democratic party tolerates is it's politicians saying whatever they have to to get elected and then doing whatever the heck they want once elected.

Of course, Republicans arent that much different.

 

[The Rabbi]

Actually, say what you want of the Democratic Party, but it takes all comers and tolerates opposition from within the ranks. The lock-step unity comes from the GOP. I don't remember many instances of GOP candidates losing primaries.

No. What the Democratic party tolerates is it's politicians saying whatever they have to to get elected and then doing whatever the heck they want once elected.

Of course, Republicans arent that much different.

Two words: Bart Stupak.

Democrats demonize opposition while Republicans tolerate it. Can the Democrats accept Ron Paul and Lindsey Graham in the same party? Olympia Snowe?
No.
They tossed Lieberman out. They suborned, bribed, and otherwise neutered all Democratic opposition to their programs.
Democrats: The Party of Fuck You.

 

[skookerasbil]

I was just looking out my window this morning and saw............November!!!!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

This is a truly amazing time in our country. The eye of the liberal storm. The conservative backlash is coming. The Arizona law is just the beginning. The Tea Party? Just scratching the surface.

See, you radical lefties desensitized a lot of stuff. The extreme political views, anything goes commentary on Bush, blah blah blah. You played the race card so much we are now immune to it. We don't care anymore if you play it. We no longer feel uncomfortable speaking out and having radical conservative opinions, like abolishing welfare, demanding drug testing for welfare, etc.

The Obama disaster has done nothing but empower and enable all the soccer moms and working dads who before just ignored politics and lived their lives. No more. I truly think the liberals have no idea the type of backlash that is coming their way. They had better get everything they want to pass done in the next 2 years. A radical conservative swing is coming, and Arizona is just the beginning. 15-25 Southern and Southwestern states probably follow the Arizona model within 5 years. After that? Well, we can only hope welfare and entitlement for the lazy is addressed. But this country will get fixed, don't worry.

And libs? You can always move to Greece for your liberal utopia if you don't like it here when we are done. But first......countdown to 01-20-2013.

The great thing about America is how liberal it has become over the years....

even conservatives have become more liberal

1. most Americans are no longer repulsed by the mere thought of homosexuality...

gays are out and about EVERYWHERE! On tv, in theatre, music, business, politics

some of our favorite shows have gays and many of our favorite entertainers are gay.
They are our friends and family, we work wit them, they live in our neighborhoods...

2. most people are rethinking pot and pot laws. Even many republican conservative politicians are advocating ending the war on pot

3. large numbers of Americans (up to 15%) admit they don't believe in god!
and apparently that number is growing!

4. large numbers of Americans live together sans marriage. MILLIONS of men and women, who love each other, live together without bothering to marry

5. more and more people are waiting longer and longer before gatting married (if they marry at all). No longer are they tying the knot at the too early and immature age of 18 or 21.

6. divorce is more common than ever. People understand that it is a waste of their lives to continue to live in a bad marriage

7. blacks and whites marry now and nobody bats an eye!

8. gays, blacks, women are in all aspects of life; the military, business, politics...
and achieving high levels of prominence and success.

what a wonderfully liberal country we have become!

There is nothing wrong with liberties. But please do not confuse today's
"liberal" political philosophy with one that actually believes in individual freedoms.

If our so called liberal politicians believed in individual liberty, we would not have the government forcing us to purchase health insurance now would we?

 

[Murf76]

There is nothing wrong with liberties. But please do not confuses today's
"liberal" political philosophy with one that actually believes in individual freedoms.

If our so called liberal politicians believed in individual liberty, we would not have the government forcing us to purchase health insurance now would we?

And THAT's the point that these Democrat shills are missing. The ascendancy of Conservatism is not so much about social values as it is about Constitutional values. We see two pervasive messages from the Tea Party...fiscal restraint and limited government. Both are in response to the socialist agenda this administration has forced down our throats.

Democrats are DIVIDERS. They're all about Plantation Politics, separating Americans into groups, planting each group into its own furrow, spreading manure on it, and harvesting the votes every other year. They're race-baiters and fear-mongerers, playing to the public's natural abhorrence of discrimination based on race, ethnicity, gender, etc. Identity Politics is a bland term for what they do, because 'what they do' is a filthy thing.
But... it's worked for them so far, so they stick with it.

The problem is, that it's not going to work this time. The division they've caused has reached a fever pitch, but it's only served to highlight their incompetence. They've overplayed their hand. The socialist policies that they've implemented so far, the ones they're still trying to implement, the complete malfeasance of their reckless spending... can't be explained. And rather than deal effectively with the criticism by altering course, they've elected to point an accusatory finger at concerned Americans and sputter epithets like "Racist" and "Homophobe".

Well, WE KNOW we're not racists and homophobes, so the false accusations are revealed as deflections and pot-stirring. Americans WANT unity. That's how Barack Obama got elected. It's what he promised. But in his thin-skinned, knee-jerk reaction to the rejection of his socialist agenda... he's proved that he's a divider rather than a unifier. He's made things worse rather than better. And this misunderstanding of the "mandate" he had... is what's going to cost him in the end.

He and his shills thought the socialist agenda had been approved by the American people. But they've missed the forest for the trees.