The coming American dictatorship

[Annie]

If only the Congress still got that!

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
Thanks, but you two need to sit down and tell me what you come up with, after you set 'capitalism' and 'socialism' aside.

cc, that's the whole point of political debate. Why should people set aside their values in the name of 'getting along' and 'validating each other's points?' Among the many purposes of good debate is to determine solutions to problems. It seems that your basic worldview is "Can't we all just get along?" Unfortunately, the world is filled with so many mutually exclusive political options that it is not possible for us all to play on the same playground unless people's ideologies agree.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
I wouldn't worry too much about RWA calling you a liberal. Thats his standard term for anyone that can think outside the box and be smarter than that of the right wing ideology.

Liberals are the box now. Neocons are outside it. Boxhead.

 

[menewa]

Originally posted by crazy canadian

I did not know universities present liberalism as an intellectually superior point of view.

They don't, well at least not always. It can depend on what school you attend and what professors you get. I attended AU in Ala. and had both liberal and conservative professors throughout my four years. However, the avenger of the right wing does have a point. A lot of bastions of higher ed do have a majority of liberals in their midst. There is a simple reason for this. It seems that most conservatives who earn higher degrees do so to make lots of money. You can make a decent living at a university, but you're not gonna get rich unless you're the football coach. But it seems that more people who are liberal minded would rather continue the noble pursuit of knowledge rather than joining a fast-paced, dod-eat-dog, rat race for big dollars. Because of this, liberals take precedence at most colleges and universities.

 

[Annie]

cc, that's the whole point of political debate. Why should people set aside their values in the name of 'getting along' and 'validating each other's points?' Among the many purposes of good debate is to determine solutions to problems.

posted by GopJeff

There have always been differences, but the ability to leave them at the 'water's edge' had to do with leaving rancor out of it. No longer seems possible and it did start with the GOP. Still and all, time to bridge the gap.

 

[menewa]

Originally posted by Kathianne
If only the Congress still got that!

 

[menewa]

Originally posted by Kathianne
posted by GopJeff

...it did start with the GOP.

Can you explain?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by menewa
They don't, well at least not always. It can depend on what school you attend and what professors you get. I attended AU in Ala. and had both liberal and conservative professors throughout my four years. However, the avenger of the right wing does have a point. A lot of bastions of higher ed do have a majority of liberals in their midst. There is a simple reason for this. It seems that most conservatives who earn higher degrees do so to make lots of money. You can make a decent living at a university, but you're not gonna get rich unless you're the football coach. But it seems that more people who are liberal minded would rather continue the noble pursuit of knowledge rather than joining a fast-paced, dod-eat-dog, rat race for big dollars. Because of this, liberals take precedence at most colleges and universities.

Yes. And they're bitter and seek to destroy a society that values riches, because they themselves are not rich. they think they should just be rewarded with riches for having enlightened opinion. They're bitter elitists who are angry the rest of society does not share their haughty opinion of them. So they have no problem shoving their agenda down their students.

 

[crazy canadian]

yes, please explain. And i like the idea of, 'still and all, time to bridge the gap'

 

[crazy canadian]

rtwng, you are one angry dude. Please (not meant to be condescending) pull up a seat and grab a beer. I'm about to learn something new.

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by menewa
Can you explain?

i will, but I gotta run now. Be back in a few hours.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
yes, please explain. And i like the idea of, 'still and all, time to bridge the gap'

Yes. Let's all abandon our convictions for the false panacea of concensus.

 

[crazy canadian]

Ok. All I have is Mike's hard lemonade. The beer is gone. I'll start drinking and meet you back here when Kathianne gets back.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
rtwng, you are one angry dude. Please (not meant to be condescending) pull up a seat and grab a beer. I'm about to learn something new.

No. Not angry. Energized. you say you want to talk. But you reject out of hand anything and everything. Except socialism. You do have opinions and a point of view, you just lie about it.

 

[crazy canadian]

Are you drinking yet?

 

[menewa]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
Yes. And they're bitter and seek to destroy a society that values riches, because they themselves are not rich. they think they should just be rewarded with riches for having enlightened opinion. They're bitter elitists who are angry the rest of society does not share their haughty opinion of them. So they have no problem shoving their agenda down their students.

Professor do more than simply dole out opinions. They are teachers before they are pundits. They are also researchers before they are pundits. They do a great service to our nation. In my experience, professors like some challenge. I've challenged liberal and conservative profs on issues I didn't agree and they really seem to have more respect for someone with their own voice rather than a mere follower of any particular doctrine.
They don't subvert anything, at least not most of them. I'm sure there are some professors who do espouse only their particluar view and condescend those with opposite takes. But there are going to be poor players in any game.