The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?

[rightwinger]

"The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?"

Neither.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

liberals believe that "promote the general welfare" means take care of everyone from birth to death, except unborn children that is.

No they don't

They believe in helping people who need help

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

 

[hazlnut]

The business of a Democrat controlled government is to make it as hard as possible for a business in the private sector to succeed.
The purpose of a Democrat controlled government is to impose as many taxes as possible in order to force people to be dependent
on government thereby keeping Democrats in power.

Stupid-bigot-says-what..???

 

[Judicial review]

"The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?"

Neither.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

liberals believe that "promote the general welfare" means take care of everyone from birth to death, except unborn children that is.

No they don't

They believe in helping people who need help

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

Welfare is poverty, moron.

 

[kaz]

No, defense means to defend our borders and Americans from foreign threats.

Defense from threats foreign and domestic, actually. The epidemic of mortgage fraud that nearly crashed the global economy six years ago is a greater threat to this country than radical Islam ever will be. The current gap between the richest Americans and the majority also qualifies as a crisis for all those not lost like naive trolls in the 18th century.

I'm bailing on this argument on the grounds that you are an idiot.

I feel your pain.

Socialism is justified under the Constitutional power of defense. Every time I think that I can't think liberals are any more stupid than I already think they are, they prove me wrong. And not by a little, by a lot. It is their one truly exceptional ability.

 

[rightwinger]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

liberals believe that "promote the general welfare" means take care of everyone from birth to death, except unborn children that is.

No they don't

They believe in helping people who need help

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

Welfare is poverty, moron.

Figured that one out for yourself did ya?

And welfare provides a safety net for those struggling with poverty. But we do not stop at welfare....we provide educational programs, jobs training, employment initiatives, small business initiatives, child care. All to help people escape poverty

 

[Rozman]

liberals believe that "promote the general welfare" means take care of everyone from birth to death, except unborn children that is.

No they don't

They believe in helping people who need help

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

Welfare is poverty, moron.

Figured that one out for yourself did ya?

And welfare provides a safety net for those struggling with poverty. But we do not stop at welfare....we provide educational programs, jobs training, employment initiatives, small business initiatives, child care. All to help people escape poverty

And I wonder just how many get off the dole?
I'm sure there are people on welfare and some sort of assistance for years.

 

[Judicial review]

No they don't

They believe in helping people who need help

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

Welfare is poverty, moron.

Figured that one out for yourself did ya?

And welfare provides a safety net for those struggling with poverty. But we do not stop at welfare....we provide educational programs, jobs training, employment initiatives, small business initiatives, child care. All to help people escape poverty

And I wonder just how many get off the dole?
I'm sure there are people on welfare and some sort of assistance for years.

years? Try decades.

 

[Judicial review]

liberals believe that "promote the general welfare" means take care of everyone from birth to death, except unborn children that is.

No they don't

They believe in helping people who need help

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

Welfare is poverty, moron.

Figured that one out for yourself did ya?

And welfare provides a safety net for those struggling with poverty. But we do not stop at welfare....we provide educational programs, jobs training, employment initiatives, small business initiatives, child care. All to help people escape poverty

So do local library's and banks. hvae you ever heard of asking an employee to shadow for free? Pell grants to community college?

Pell Grants is the only thing I'll agree with you on.

 

[georgephillip]

Socialism is justified under the Constitutional power of defense

The Pentagon seems like a good working example of socialism in reverse:
"Phyllis Bennis, director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies explains 'The really draconian impact of sequestration cuts have been felt by working people and poor people across the United States far more than it has by the Pentagon.'"
SOCIALISM OR YOUR MONEY BACK No penny-pinching at the Pentagon

 

[Judicial review]

Rightwinger, how many people in the last 7-10 years % have gotten off of welfare? and gotten to those other things?

 

[kaz]

Socialism is justified under the Constitutional power of defense

The Pentagon seems like a good working example of socialism in reverse:
"Phyllis Bennis, director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies explains 'The really draconian impact of sequestration cuts have been felt by working people and poor people across the United States far more than it has by the Pentagon.'"
SOCIALISM OR YOUR MONEY BACK No penny-pinching at the Pentagon

Once again you are taking a word, twisting the definition and using it out of context.

 

[rightwinger]

Rightwinger, how many people in the last 7-10 years % have gotten off of welfare? and gotten to those other things?

In the past 7-10 years have children from welfare families gone to college or technical schools and gotten jobs afterwards? Yes they have
In the past 7-10 years have welfare mothers received jobs training and placements that allow them to enter the workforce? Yes they have
Inj the past 7-10 years have people with disabilities received training that allows them to enter the workforce? Yes they have
In the past 7-10 years have out of work employees been trained in new fields? Yes they have

 

[rightwinger]

No they don't

They believe in helping people who need help

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

Welfare is poverty, moron.

Figured that one out for yourself did ya?

And welfare provides a safety net for those struggling with poverty. But we do not stop at welfare....we provide educational programs, jobs training, employment initiatives, small business initiatives, child care. All to help people escape poverty

And I wonder just how many get off the dole?
I'm sure there are people on welfare and some sort of assistance for years.

Yes there are.

But is the problem welfare or the lack of employment opportunities in urban areas? Our cities used to be a focal point for finding jobs. Manufacturing, small business, service jobs. When those jobs left the cities people who relied on those jobs were left with nothing. No amount of training is going to get people into jobs that no longer exist

 

[SwimExpert]

Socialist ideals are nothing more than tax payer services and infrastructure. As a businessman, I LOVE infrastructure.

Oh, I see the problem now. You're an uneducated fuck stick who doesn't know what he's talking about. It all makes sense now.

 

[georgephillip]

Once again you are taking a word, twisting the definition and using it out of context.

Care to elaborate?
Empires traditionally practice socialism for the rich and misery for the rest.

 

[danielpalos]

For Jeremy Bentham the answer was happiness which he defined as the overall happiness created for everyone affected by an action.
"I. The business of government is to promote the happiness of the society, by punishing and rewarding. That part of its business which consists in punishing, is more particularly the subject of penal law. In proportion as an act tends to disturb that happiness, in proportion as the tendency of it is pernicious, will be the demand it creates for punishment. What happiness consists of we have already seen: enjoyment of pleasures, security from pains."
Jeremy Bentham An Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation Chapter VII Library of Economics and Liberty

Here is our "mission statement":

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

It seems, the government is there to enable our mission.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of the law.

 

[Redfish]

No, defense means to defend our borders and Americans from foreign threats.

Defense from threats foreign and domestic, actually. The epidemic of mortgage fraud that nearly crashed the global economy six years ago is a greater threat to this country than radical Islam ever will be. The current gap between the richest Americans and the majority also qualifies as a crisis for all those not lost like naive trolls in the 18th century.

What??? are you a complete idiot? How many people did mortgage fraud kill?

 

[Redfish]

Rightwinger, how many people in the last 7-10 years % have gotten off of welfare? and gotten to those other things?

In the past 7-10 years have children from welfare families gone to college or technical schools and gotten jobs afterwards? Yes they have
In the past 7-10 years have welfare mothers received jobs training and placements that allow them to enter the workforce? Yes they have
Inj the past 7-10 years have people with disabilities received training that allows them to enter the workforce? Yes they have
In the past 7-10 years have out of work employees been trained in new fields? Yes they have

those things have been happening for the last 50 years or more. nothing new there, sewer worker.

 

[Redfish]

By enslaving them in generational poverty...

Nobody is enslaved
Millions of Americans have escaped poverty using government programs

Welfare is poverty, moron.

Figured that one out for yourself did ya?

And welfare provides a safety net for those struggling with poverty. But we do not stop at welfare....we provide educational programs, jobs training, employment initiatives, small business initiatives, child care. All to help people escape poverty

And I wonder just how many get off the dole?
I'm sure there are people on welfare and some sort of assistance for years.

Yes there are.

But is the problem welfare or the lack of employment opportunities in urban areas? Our cities used to be a focal point for finding jobs. Manufacturing, small business, service jobs. When those jobs left the cities people who relied on those jobs were left with nothing. No amount of training is going to get people into jobs that no longer exist

why did those jobs leave the big cities? any idea, RW?

try these: taxes, unions, crime. Why did our cities become centers for taxes, unions, and crime? The welfare state.

liberalism always fails, always has, always will.

 

[rightwinger]

Rightwinger, how many people in the last 7-10 years % have gotten off of welfare? and gotten to those other things?

In the past 7-10 years have children from welfare families gone to college or technical schools and gotten jobs afterwards? Yes they have
In the past 7-10 years have welfare mothers received jobs training and placements that allow them to enter the workforce? Yes they have
Inj the past 7-10 years have people with disabilities received training that allows them to enter the workforce? Yes they have
In the past 7-10 years have out of work employees been trained in new fields? Yes they have

those things have been happening for the last 50 years or more. nothing new there, sewer worker.

All part of LBJs "War on Poverty"

Thanks for pointing it out