The Bush Legacy...Lost Decade for Family Income

[loosecannon]

Nearly half the working age population cannot make the move to where the jobs are either because of housing prices or superslow commuter speeds. Even 1920s style street cars would improve labor mobility a whole bunch.

Are you saying that the work force is trapped in suburbia?

Or North America?

 

[Bfgrn]

You failed to support your statement that "The Democratic Party today encompasses the whole political spectrum that existed in the 50's and 60's.".

Nobody even contested the fact that both parties have evolved into something completely other than what they were in decades past.

Stuck on partisanship = stupid perspective. It is a false dichotomy.

If anything you should be asking how we can take power back from the two political monopolies.

Of course I did. Find me ONE Republican that would support ANY of the Eisenhower platform...just ONE.

There is plenty of evidence the GOP has been hijacked by authoritarians, theocrats and Trotsky neocons...FROM REPUBLICANS.

Victor Gold, former speechwriter for George Herbert Walker Bush is a Goldwater conservative...his book explains how the GOP was hijacked away from conservatives by far right theocrats and far left neocons...starting in 1980...

Book Review:

Invasion of the Party Snatchers

By Victor Gold

After four decades as a Republican insider, Victor Gold reveals how the holy-rollers and the Neo-Cons have destroyed the GOP. Now he's fighting to get his party back.

As a man who served as press aide to Barry Goldwater and speechwriter and senior advisor to George H. W. Bush (in addition to co-authoring his autobiography), Victor Gold is absolutely furious that the Neo-Cons and their strange bedfellows, the Evangelical Right, have stolen his party from him. Now he is bringing the fight to them.

Invasion of the Party Snatchers is a blistering critique not only of the Bush-Cheney administration but also of the Republican Congress. Gold is ready to tell all about the war being waged for the soul of the GOP, including the elder Bush's opinion of his sons work domestically and abroad, the significance of the newly elected Congress, and how Goldwater would have reacted to it all. Gold reveals, among other explosive disclosures, how George W. has been manipulated by his vice president and secretary of defense to become, in Lenin's famous phrase, a "useful idiot" for Neo-Conservative warmongers and Theo-Conservative religious fanatics.

Although there have been other books by dissident Republicans attacking the Bush-Cheney administrations betrayal of conservative principles, none have been by an insider whose political credentials include inner-circle status with Barry Goldwater and George H. W. Bush.

Review:
"Make no mistake: author Gold, a former speechwriter for George H.W. Bush and aide to Barry Goldwater, is one disgusted Republican. The GOP of the 2006 midterm election, he writes, is 'a party of pork-barrel ear-markers like Dennis Hastert, of political hatchet men like Karl Rove, and of Bible-thumping hypocrites like Tom Delay.' Gold looks to Goldwater, 'a straight-talking, freethinking maverick,' as the yardstick by which to measure just how far the party of Lincoln has fallen.

He traces the beginning of the end to the 1980 Republican National Convention and the presence of 'a militant new element...personified by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.' The other half of the equation, the neoconservatives, are embodied by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, 'two cuts from the same Machiavellian cloth.' In efficient prose, Gold scrutinizes a significant swath of recent GOP history, in particular Newt Gingrich's 104th Congress and the Bush II White House, without losing momentum.

He also has choice words for 'the Coulterization of Republican rhetoric,' the revolving door between Capitol Hill and K Street, and 'sideshow' legislation like the Flag Protection Amendment. Gold sees a promising future for the Republican Party, but not until they lose some major elections and are able to keep down a slice of humble pie; for those disillusioned with the state of the GOP, this quick, uncompromising polemic provides substantial support, along with a large dose of cold comfort." Publishers Weekly (Starred Review) (Copyright Reed Business Information, Inc.)

Synopsis:
The last real Goldwater conservative in America attacks the current state of his movement and his party.
Powell's Books - Invasion of the Party Snatchers: How the Holy-Rollers and Neo-Cons Destroyed the GOP by Victor Gold

Victor Gold grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana, where he attended the public schools, and Tulane University. After working as a reporter-correspondent for the BIRMINGHAM (Alabama) NEWS, he earned his law degree (J.D.) from the University of Alabama. He served in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, 1950-52.

In 1958 he moved to Washington, D.C., and joined the public relations firm of Selvage & Lee. Six years later he became Deputy Press Secretary to Senator Barry Goldwater during the 1964 presidential campaign.

In 1965 Gold opened his own political public relations firm in Washington, listing among his clients then-Republican House leader Gerald Ford and Senator Bob Dole. At the Republican conventions of 1968 and 1976 he worked with press secretary Lyn Nofziger on behalf of the presidential candidacy of then-California Governor Ronald Reagan. During the Nixon administration he served as press secretary to Vice President Spiro T. Agnew until January, 1973.

In 1980 Gold joined the staff of Republican presidential candidate George H. W. Bush as a speechwriter and senior advisor, a position he held during the Reagan-Bush campaigns of '80 and '84. He served on the Bush vice-presidential staff in 1981, and as a Bush advisor in the campaigns of 1988 and 1992. In 1992 he received the Distinguished Achievement Award for Political Communication from his alma mater, the University of Alabama.

In 1989 Gold served as a member of President Bush's election-oversight delegation to the first free Romanian elections.

 

[loosecannon]

Of course I did. Find me ONE Republican that would support ANY of the Eisenhower platform...just ONE.

There is plenty of evidence the GOP has been hijacked by authoritarians, theocrats and Trotsky neocons...FROM REPUBLICANS.

neither of those sentences does anything to support: "The Democratic Party today encompasses the whole political spectrum that existed in the 50's and 60's".

For a start the dems and repubs are not the complete political spectrum, or even a meaning portion thereof. I can't tell what either of the two stands for beyond immortal political power. But they seem far far more similar than different when you look at actual policy.

False dichotomy.

 

[geauxtohell]

You can't trust that liberal rag, the Wall Street Journal.

Oh wait.......

 

[CMike]

Once again...

Republican white house & republican congress

Economic prosperity occurs

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Republican white house & democrat congress

Thinks start to slide

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Democrat white house & democrat congress

Economic disaster occurs

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0
2010 9.7 9.7 9.7 9.9 9.7 9.5 9.5 9.6


Any questions?

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[CMike]

Democrats

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[uscitizen]

Partisan hacks are funny.

 

[Bfgrn]

Of course I did. Find me ONE Republican that would support ANY of the Eisenhower platform...just ONE.

There is plenty of evidence the GOP has been hijacked by authoritarians, theocrats and Trotsky neocons...FROM REPUBLICANS.

neither of those sentences does anything to support: "The Democratic Party today encompasses the whole political spectrum that existed in the 50's and 60's".

For a start the dems and repubs are not the complete political spectrum, or even a meaning portion thereof. I can't tell what either of the two stands for beyond immortal political power. But they seem far far more similar than different when you look at actual policy.

False dichotomy.

No, a false assumption. When I say 'whole political spectrum', I mean encompassed IN the two parties. There has always been a lunatic fringe, BUT the lunatic fringe never had control of one party...it does now.

You clearly don't know how we got here and who caused it. The last 30+ years have been dominated by conservative policies. So yes, the Democrats share the blame because they didn't fight hard enough to prevent Republicans from dismantling the New Deal policies that created a prosperous middle class and kept corporations in check.

“Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality”
President John F. Kennedy

 

[loosecannon]

No, a false assumption. When I say 'whole political spectrum', I mean encompassed IN the two parties. There has always been a lunatic fringe, BUT the lunatic fringe never had control of one party...it does now.

You clearly don't know how we got here and who caused it.

Blow me windbag. You can't even understand what you said and what position you are arguing much less what anybody else is arguing.

The last 30+ years have been dominated by conservative policies. So yes, the Democrats share the blame because they didn't fight hard enough to prevent Republicans from dismantling the New Deal policies that created a prosperous middle class and kept corporations in check.

“Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality”
President John F. Kennedy

You seem to be of the opinion that the entire political spectrum consists of the positions of the two parties and a "lunatic fringe".

You clearly have no idea how we got here and who started it.

For a start the PROGRESSIVES were opposed to BOTH parties and they actually are responsible for almost everything you falsely credit to liberals and democrats.

From the repeal of child labor to the "weekend", overtime pay, ballot initiatives and women's suffrage it was the NON PARTISAN Progressives who delivered all of that.

The progressives were rooted in the Labor and Socialist Party movement of the late 20th century, the Wobblies, Eugene Debs, and lobbied successfully for decades for the expansion of voting rights and broader democracy. All the while considering the two parties to be the largest roadblock erected to frustrate their efforts.

Idiot!

 

[rdean]

Even if I grant you that. You ignore the Democrat Ideology is not doing so hot at the moment.

See that is why you are a partisan hack, and I am not. because I can see the flaws in both parties, while you only see one side of the story.

Americans are angry because Democrats haven't fixed Republicans mess fast enough.

See and this is why you are a partisan hack. You insistence that this mess was "the republicans fault alone" is a massive falsehood. Both parties share the blame for this mess. Which has been building for literally generations.

I also think your belief that Republicans have only radical Ideas while Democrats do not is BS.

Maybe in the past sure. Back when I was a registered Democrat. However the Democrat party today is controlled by a small Far left Minority and is failing to represent what even most Democrats believe.

It's you fuckhead that's the "partisan hack". Republicans had both houses, the presidency, AND EVEN THE FUCKING SUPREME COURT for six LOOOOOONG years. They passed the most extreme legislation this country has ever seen through 'RECONCILLIATION'. Trillions in tax cuts and drug give a ways for votes.

They lost billions upon billions in Iraq. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT WENT.

How many posts have we asked people to NAME ONE DAMN THING the Republicans could be proud of during those six years AND NO ONE COULD NAME A SINGLE THING.

You guys didn't even get Bin Laden.

And after all that, you guys have the "nerve" and the "gall" to blame your fucking mess on Obama. Shame on you, only Republicans have no shame. During the last 2 years of Bush, Democrats only had the Senate by a vote of 49 to 49, yet, they had "power"? You guys are awful.

 

[william the wie]

Nearly half the working age population cannot make the move to where the jobs are either because of housing prices or superslow commuter speeds. Even 1920s style street cars would improve labor mobility a whole bunch.

Are you saying that the work force is trapped in suburbia?

Or North America?

Suburbia mostly but the wrong parts of North America as well. Here in FL and to a lesser degree the entire south gets a lot of high skill working homeless because of the milder winters. Homes simply will not sell up north nor is it possible to survive without heat in the winter there. CA and the left coast generally is overwhelmed by its own working homeless problems and refugees from the inter-mountain west where a lack of AC will kill if the winter doesn't. It is extremely hard to get back going from homeless even with an advanced degrees. I know homeless JDs and MBAs, I get reports about homeless PhDs and those folks are having a hard time making it back plus when they do it suppresses wages.

 

[loosecannon]

I have read anecdotal stories of folks living in their BMWs in beach side communities north of LA.

I agree, once you default on your mortgage and can't move in with somebody there isn't much left.

 

[topspin]

Pull the same stat for wealthy families or those of college grads. My guess is their income is way up.