The Buffet Rule, fair share, greed and stupidity

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    So apparently Obama wants to push the Buffet rule. Why the fuck would anyone support an increase in taxes on anyone when in the not to near future the Bush tax cuts will expire causing taxes to go up. Then we have the new Obamacare taxes kicking in.

    When is enough enough you greedy bastards? Obama is getting ready to dish out his second wave of green energy free money yet is crying that he needs more money. Can he not see the disconnect?
     
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    Yes, god forbid the President talk about the things that the American people WANT...

    Poll: Tax the Rich, Corporations

    Poll: Well-off say tax the rich
     
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    On top of that does he actually believe he can run on raising taxes? Has he divided the people enough to get away with pushing one down while lifting another?
     
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    You didn't support those polls when they showed a vast majority in favor of spending cuts did you?
     
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    You're certain of that are you, that I don't support spending cuts?

    The fact (and I know you don't like to let facts get in the way of your suppositions) is that I do, indeed, support spending cuts. It is in what is cut that the differences arise.

    I support spending cuts AND revenue increases...like most Americans.
     
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    I would even support my taxes going up IF spending was under control and the senate actually put forth a budget and followed it. But at this point only a fool would agree to giving more money when the entity they are giving it to has a problem being responsible with the money. It would be like giving a street beggar cash instead of spending 30 minutes with him shopping for food.

    When our govt displays that they can be responsible with the money we already GIVE them, then they can ask for more.

    The govt is our employee and you don't give raises to irresponsible employees.
     
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    Life ain't fair. No one ever said it would be fair.. but when 100% of Americans are paying federal income tax.. it will be a little bit fairer,, but for liberals to whine that the rich should give them more will that's just dumb assed thinking.
     
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    Welfare is a job creator ya know. LOL
     
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    I agree.

    I have openly stated time and time again that I will supprt raising taxes on the rich.

    Four dollars of spending cuts for ever dollar of revenue increase.

    No cuts (and not the window dressing Obama put out there), no new taxes.
     
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    There was a simple reason why Barry extended the Bush tax cuts two years ago when he had super majorities in Congress and could have pushed them through just like he pushed ObamaCare through. He extended those tax cuts because tax raises in a weak economy is bad economic policy. Christina Romer understood that. She came out and said that she didn't think we should raise taxes on ANYONE at this time. Why? Because she's a Keynesian economist and one of Keynes' fundamental economic rules was that you raise taxes in a strong economy not a weak one. So why is Obama pushing the so-called "Buffett Rule" and preaching "fairness" as he calls for higher tax rates for the wealthy? He was the champion of Keynesian economics. He put Larry Summers and Romer in place to use Keynesian economics to rescue the country. So why is he suddenly going AGAINST Keynesian fundamentals? Once again the answer to that is quite simple...it's an election year message that he thinks will resonate with enough Americans that he can get elected to another term. Who cares if the policy he's pushing won't work...it's all about winning an election by coming up with a populist message he thinks he can sell to the electorate. So what happens if and when he DOES get re-elected? Well, as his open mike comments to the Russian President last week illustrate...what he says to GET re-elected has nothing to do with what he will do if IS re-elected. "Hope & Change" was a vague notion that an electorate hungry for change bought into with the help of a compliant main stream media. "Fairness" is the "new" vague notion that Barry hopes will do the same thing for him in 2012.
     
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