'The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama'

[Procrustes Stretched]

'The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama' by David Remnick - latimes.com

For "The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama" -- a brilliantly constructed, flawlessly written biography -- Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Remnick interviewed our 44th president about winning the Oslo honor.

"It was not helpful to us politically," Obama matter-of-factly recalls. "Although [David] Axelrod and I joke about it, the one thing we didn't anticipate this year was having to apologize for having won the Nobel Peace Prize."

 

[JW Frogen]

I thought Obama's Nobel speech was good.

He told them point blank that military force is often the only way to stop evil and achieve peace.

This is not a song they usually hear.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I thought Obama's Nobel speech was good.

He told them point blank that military force is often the only way to stop evil and achieve peace.

This is not a song they usually hear.

I don't think that was so revolutionary an idea, but I agree..it was not what they were used to hearing. I would also bet it was not what they thought they would hear.

But coming from somebody other than a Bush, I am sure it went down like baby's fruit flavored cough syrup.

 

[JW Frogen]

There is nothing revolutionary about it at all. It is reality.

But the Nobel Committee rarely deals in reality, it deals in fantasy-fullfillment. You are correct, this is not what thought they would not hear from Obama.

Not only them but many of his voters as well, like the MoveOn.org crowd.

Obama has adopted most of Bush’s anti terror strategy (with different rhetoric and slight modifications), increased drone attacks in Pakistan, (a war crime by the way according to international law), pretty much followed the Bush plan of post successful surge withdrawal in Iraq, and followed the departing Bush recommendations to surge in Afghanistan.

Hell, if he had just said so during the campaign I may have voted for him.

 

[CMike]

There is no credible reason for him to win the prize other than just being another socialist/marxist with power that is part of their "gang".

 

[JW Frogen]

Personally I just don’t buy into all this socialist-Marxist attack. (Both those groups attempt to assume state control of all or most of the means of production.) Obama is more of a social welfare progressive (not always a pragmatic one and so far certainly not a fiscally prudent one) in the tradition of Roosevelt and LBJ.

But in the interests of serendipity I would think if we are going to throw political mud then his healthcare plan (some of which I like) would be more fascist. It is not controlling the medical means of production or creating state insurance (expanding but not creating) it is ordering the citizen to participate in the private sector in a particular way.

If I were more a wild kinda political thinker who had a burning, uncontrollable rage against Obama that is the route I would take for attack.

 

[CMike]

It's a heck of a lot more than that.

Marxist is pretty on target.

Barak Hussein and his minions will and has changed democrat rules to get his agenda passed. That is the work of a marxist.

 

[JW Frogen]

I think you will find tap dancing on and around procedural rules is as old as democracy itself.

 

[Samson]

I think you will find tap dancing on and around procedural rules is as old as democracy itself.

Like prostitution.

 

[JW Frogen]

Though Rahm Emanuel is very minionish in a Bond villain sort of way I will concede.

 

[JW Frogen]

Like prostitution.

What I don’t understand is if prostitution is the world’s oldest profession where did the customers get the money to purchase their services?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There is no credible reason for him to win the prize other than just being another socialist/marxist with power that is part of their "gang".

That's the only reason they need

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Price Alaweed took an early interest in Obama. Was that in the book?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug]YouTube - Obama and Khalid Mansour[/ame]

 

[Paulie]

Like prostitution.

What I don’t understand is if prostitution is the world’s oldest profession where did the customers get the money to purchase their services?

Money is not the only medium of exchange.

 

[Samson]

Like prostitution.

What I don’t understand is if prostitution is the world’s oldest profession where did the customers get the money to purchase their services?

Money is not the only medium of exchange.

Meth, Cocain, chocolate bars, nylon stockings, chickens

 

[Paulie]

What I don’t understand is if prostitution is the world’s oldest profession where did the customers get the money to purchase their services?

Money is not the only medium of exchange.

Meth, Cocain, chocolate bars, nylon stockings, chickens

Pretty much.

 

[mudwhistle]

I thought Obama's Nobel speech was good.

He told them point blank that military force is often the only way to stop evil and achieve peace.

This is not a song they usually hear.

Obama's teleprompter always knows the right thing to say for every occasion.

 

[CMike]

To bad he doesn't act on it.