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Yes, like parents being intelligent and considerate enough to know not to bring very young children to restaurants. .
Are you saying you've never taken your young children to a restaurant?
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Yes, like parents being intelligent and considerate enough to know not to bring very young children to restaurants. .
Umm in most areas of america brats describes most children.
Your hyperbole doesn't much impress me.
Umm in most areas of america brats describes most children.
Your hyperbole doesn't much impress me.
It is only hyperbole in your opinion.
Well said on all counts. Sadly, many parents out there neither know nor care what works in terms of teaching a child to behave.I remember my daughter's one attempted tantrum. She was two. She spent a few days with a friend while my mother was in intensive care, and when she got home, she tried to tantrum just like their little one. I picked her up by by the cross strap of her coveralls, swung her up, bounced her off her feet and said "WE DON'T DO THAT". She stopped, mid-shriek.
Now, I have known parents of kids on the spectrum, and that wouldn't work for them. Heck, some kids you can spank until your hand changes colors and they'll still do what they want to do. I was one of those kids you just had to look at, and I'd burst into tears.
Parenting isn't easy.
Exactly. I love kids too. In fact I've coached little league and even tutored elementary school kids for a bit. But I have no patience for poor behavior. The sad part is it's the parents' fault, but the kids pay for it.Thanks to PTSD, I have an exaggerated startle reflex. One kid making like an air raid siren is enough to trigger me, so I do get Bill's point. And I LOVE kids. Infants, babies, toddlers, on up. But I don't appreciate it when somebody shows up with the equivalent of a circus, and refuses to parent effectively.
Yes. Or to be more precise, I have never taken my young children to a restaurant (or libary, or theater, or....etc) until they were old enough to know how to behave in public and were taught - in fact mandated - to do so. ie if they didn't there'd be hell to pay. Turns out that when you explain AND enforce rules effectively (as BD pointed out, this varies from child to child) it's amazing the results you get. And lo and behold they are very well-behaved children. Not perfect, nor am I, but a little common sense and backbone goes a long way. Sadly, both of those qualities are increasingly hated and utterly absent in parents today.Yes, like parents being intelligent and considerate enough to know not to bring very young children to restaurants. .
Are you saying you've never taken your young children to a restaurant?
No, it is describing banning children 6 and under. Big difference. As I stated above, this is really more about addressing jerkface parents, not jerkface kids. "Brat Ban" is just a nickname-y thing.The article isn't decribing banning BRATS, it is describing banning ALL CHIDLREN.
Big difference.
Well said on all counts. Sadly, many parents out there neither know nor care what works in terms of teaching a child to behave.I remember my daughter's one attempted tantrum. She was two. She spent a few days with a friend while my mother was in intensive care, and when she got home, she tried to tantrum just like their little one. I picked her up by by the cross strap of her coveralls, swung her up, bounced her off her feet and said "WE DON'T DO THAT". She stopped, mid-shriek.
Now, I have known parents of kids on the spectrum, and that wouldn't work for them. Heck, some kids you can spank until your hand changes colors and they'll still do what they want to do. I was one of those kids you just had to look at, and I'd burst into tears.
Parenting isn't easy.
But it isn't just "bad" kids that are being addressed here; in fact it's much more bad parents. If you go to the very youngest, even down to toddlers and all, they are bound to cut loose because that's simply all they know how to do to get someone's attention sometimes. That's why it makes no sense to take them to restaurants/etc.
Exactly. I love kids too. In fact I've coached little league and even tutored elementary school kids for a bit. But I have no patience for poor behavior. The sad part is it's the parents' fault, but the kids pay for it.Thanks to PTSD, I have an exaggerated startle reflex. One kid making like an air raid siren is enough to trigger me, so I do get Bill's point. And I LOVE kids. Infants, babies, toddlers, on up. But I don't appreciate it when somebody shows up with the equivalent of a circus, and refuses to parent effectively.
(PS: "PTSD?" ?? Parent That's a Sh*thead Disorder?)
FINALLY. It's sad that it's come to this, but since discipline has become so strongly avoided, even abhorred, by so many morons masquerading as parents who are as spineless as they are brain-dead, this kind of thing is desperately needed and way overdue.
The no-kids-allowed movement is spreading - Parenting on Shine
As long as it's the businesses making the decisions and not the government I don't have a problem with it.
I was standing in line at the grocery store yesterday. In front of me was a four year old sitting in the cart while her dad was loading up the groceries. She was "eeeeeeeeing" at an uber loud and high-pitched tone. She would go as long as she could, stop and catch her breath, then start all over again. The dad? Looked at her with zero reaction, zero comment, zero anything. The kid turned and looked at me and I quietly went "ssshhh". She shut up.
Parents who are afraid to say no to their kids ought to be slapped upside the head.
The article isn't decribing banning BRATS, it is describing banning ALL CHIDLREN.
Big difference.
Personally, I love being around kids. Even the bratty ones can be entertaining. But I can totally understand that not all people share my affection for the young. Businesses must do what's best for their customers.
Yes, like parents being intelligent and considerate enough to know not to bring very young children to restaurants. .
Are you saying you've never taken your young children to a restaurant?
First question.... do you enjoy going out to eat in a restaurant?
I have no problem with well behaved children in restaurants. I DO have a problem with the ones who will not stay in their seats..are having tantrums...crying... and oblivious parents.
When i go out to eat in a restaurant i am there to enjoy myself...just as the parents are. Inflicting your brats on others is not appropriate behavior for adults. Get a babysitter and leave them home.
OR...when they act up... parents should pick it up...and take it out of the restaurant and deal with it outside.
Hey, parents, here's a bit of advice:
Nobody thinks your kids are cute except you.