The Black Founders

[rdean]

Will this be included in the new Texas "school books"?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Will this be included in the new Texas "school books"?

Yes didnt you watch the videos?
It was what part of the fight was about.

 

[The T]

And why weren't you taught that?

My theory is because I went to school at the time in a red state and saying anything that shed George Washington in a bad light was forbidden.

I have a better theory.
You weren't taught it because it is a fabrication of your owe demented mind.
You weren't taught it because it is a lie you invented.

*I* Heartily endorse the last two statements. All true.

 

[The T]

Will this be included in the new Texas "school books"?

Yes didnt you watch the videos?
It was what part of the fight was about.

You'll have to pardon Deany Baby...he's a rascist reactionary dumbass.

 

[rdean]

Will this be included in the new Texas "school books"?

Yes didnt you watch the videos?
It was what part of the fight was about.

You'll have to pardon Deany Baby...he's a rascist reactionary dumbass.

If you go to "Google" and do a search using these words:

"Hope is Available"

A phone number comes up. Call it. I'm positive they will be able to help you.

Good luck.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

What we weren't taught is that George Washington eventually mandated that no more blacks could enlist because too many people were worried that if they had guns they'd have an uprising against their masters.

And why weren't you taught that?

My theory is because I went to school at the time in a red state and saying anything that shed George Washington in a bad light was forbidden.

You're a piece of shit.You earned the neg.

 

[Ravi]

Revolutionary leaders began to be fearful of using African Americans in the armed forces. They were afraid that slaves who were armed would uprise against them. Slave owners became concerned that military service would eventually free their slaves.


In May 1775, the Massachusetts Committee of Safety, stopped the enlistment of slaves in the armies of the colony. This action was adopted by the Continental Congress when they took over the Patriot Army. George Washington in July 1775 issued an order to recruiters, ordering them not to enroll "any deserter from the Ministerial army, nor any stroller, negro or vagabond".[10]


This order did not apply to blacks already serving in the army. In September 1775, the southern delegates moved that Washington should discharge all blacks, free or slaves. The northern delegates were aware of how brave the African Americans had been in the Massachusetts battles and opposed the notion. The blacks that were already in the army were then allowed to finish out their enlistments.


In October 1775, Washington announced that all blacks, both free and slave would be "rejected altogether." In November he said that "Neither Negroes, boys unable to bear arms, nor old men unfit to endure the fatigues of the campaign, are to be enlisted."[11] Most African Americans were integrated into existing military units, but some segregated units were formed, such as the Bucks of America.


African Americans in the Revolutionary War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Revolutionary leaders began to be fearful of using African Americans in the armed forces. They were afraid that slaves who were armed would uprise against them. Slave owners became concerned that military service would eventually free their slaves.


In May 1775, the Massachusetts Committee of Safety, stopped the enlistment of slaves in the armies of the colony. This action was adopted by the Continental Congress when they took over the Patriot Army. George Washington in July 1775 issued an order to recruiters, ordering them not to enroll "any deserter from the Ministerial army, nor any stroller, negro or vagabond".[10]


This order did not apply to blacks already serving in the army. In September 1775, the southern delegates moved that Washington should discharge all blacks, free or slaves. The northern delegates were aware of how brave the African Americans had been in the Massachusetts battles and opposed the notion. The blacks that were already in the army were then allowed to finish out their enlistments.


In October 1775, Washington announced that all blacks, both free and slave would be "rejected altogether." In November he said that "Neither Negroes, boys unable to bear arms, nor old men unfit to endure the fatigues of the campaign, are to be enlisted."[11] Most African Americans were integrated into existing military units, but some segregated units were formed, such as the Bucks of America.


African Americans in the Revolutionary War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where is the proof this was done out of fear of insurrection?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

That fact is the orders were to stop slaves from being sent to war as substitutes for wealthy slave owners who were trying to dodge the draft.
Even black slave owners like James Harris tried it.

 

[Ravi]

[SIZE=+2]By September 1773, the first of Virginia's 250,000 slaves were also trying to get "out of the Colony, particularly to Britain" - so noted John Austin Finnie's advertisement for runaways Bacchus and Amy - "where they imagine they will be free." The king was on their side - or so slaves thought - and against their masters, who feared a British-instigated slave revolt. Following the discovery in November 1774 of slaves conspiring to desert "when the English troops should arrive," James Madison wrote to William Bradford of his conviction that "If america & Britain come to an hostile rupture I am afraid an Insurrection among the slaves may & will be promoted" in an attempt to preserve Virginia for the crown of King George III.

The Revolution's Black Soldiers
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[Mr.Fitnah]

[SIZE=+2]By September 1773, the first of Virginia's 250,000 slaves were also trying to get "out of the Colony, particularly to Britain" - so noted John Austin Finnie's advertisement for runaways Bacchus and Amy - "where they imagine they will be free." The king was on their side - or so slaves thought - and against their masters, who feared a British-instigated slave revolt. Following the discovery in November 1774 of slaves conspiring to desert "when the English troops should arrive," James Madison wrote to William Bradford of his conviction that "If america & Britain come to an hostile rupture I am afraid an Insurrection among the slaves may & will be promoted" in an attempt to preserve Virginia for the crown of King George III.

The Revolution's Black Soldiers
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So you dont have any proof.
Thank you.

 

[Ravi]

Well, it's possible George didn't want his slaves to enlist because they would then be unavailable to toil on his property.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

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The Revolution's Black Soldiers
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Your link nails down the lid and buries every aspect of your argument including the last one.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

From your link

The Revolution's Black Soldiers

As I said

Very few free blacks were as wealthy as James Harris of Charles City County, who was able to afford a substitute to fight in his place in 1780; most had no choice but to join up. But slave owners could afford substitutes and, when faced with a draft notice, many a master presented a slave to the recruiting officer for a freeman and a substitute. Many a runaway told the nearest recruiter that he was a freeman, anxious to fight.

More often than not, he was accepted without too many questions; the army was always short of men. General Washington himself had opened the door for African-Americans in his general orders of January 12, 1777, in which he instructed recruiters to "enlist none but Freemen," the implication being that the recruit could be black just as long as he was free. To put an end to such unpatriotic behavior on the part of some masters and to stop the self-emancipation of slaves, the Virginia Legislature amended the 1775 Militia Law in June 1777 by "forbidding any recruiting officers within this Commonwealth to enlist any negro or mulatto into the service of this, or either of the United States, until such Negro shall produce a certificate ... that he is a freeman."

Ravi's failure

New Jersey's Militia Act of May 1777 permitted masters to enlist slaves as substitutes. New Hampshire opened the door to the recruitment of slaves to fill the state's Continental quota in the fall of that year, and Connecticut soon followed suit. In October 1780 an all black unit, the 2nd Company, 4th Connecticut Regiment, was formed. That company, some 48 black privates and NCOs under four white officers, existed until November 1782.

In January 1778, General Washington had given his approval to Rhode Island's plan to raise an entire regiment of black slaves. Over the next five years 250 former slave and freedmen served in the 1st Rhode Island Regiment. Massachusetts' all-black unit, the Bucks of America under Samuel Middleton, the only black commissioned officer in the Continental Army, probably also had its origins early in 1778. Similar to Rhode Island, the state bought and emancipated slaves willing to become soldiers. In October 1780, even Maryland accepted "any able-bodied slave between 16 and 40 years of age, who voluntarily enters into service . . . with the consent and agreement of his master." New York would begin to recruit slaves in March 1781.

 

[Ravi]

Yes, he did eventually change his mind...because he needed the help.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Yes, he did eventually change his mind...because he needed the help.

What we weren't taught is that George Washington eventually mandated that no more blacks could enlist because too many people were worried that if they had guns they'd have an uprising against their masters.

Not an entirely full picture is it ?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

So you dont have the integrity to take back the neg or admit the deliberate deception do you Ravi ?

 

[The Infidel]

Back on topic..... I really enjoyed that broadcast.

Some of it I knew, and most of it I did'nt.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Back on topic..... I really enjoyed that broadcast.

Some of it I knew, and most of it I did'nt.

Please , you dont know anything until some random progressives tells you what you know . Fact checking makes you a bigot.

 

[The Infidel]

Ummm OK