The bigoted past of Ron Paul?

[eots]

Ok okay so if Ron Paul said so then it's fine. I noticed with the ronbots that when they accuse other candidates of doing things or spinning their records that must be true,and any attempt to explain their positions are ignored, yet anything negative on Ron paul has to be false... I see how i works.

THATS CODE FOR YOUR A CLOSET NAZI...SEE HOW IT WORKS

 

[ronpaul2008]

On one hand these baseless accusations are infurating, on the other hand it is an intellectual win because when the other side resorts to slanderous accusals of racism, it means they have no logical argument against his positions and this is their last resort. I have seen where people who oppose the federal reserve monopoly on money and discuss the bankers behind it protested by the ADL. The ADL's argument is that those who talk about conspiracys against the people by 'international bankers' are anti-semites because 'international bankers' is code for Jews. It does not matter how much the person exclaims they are not bigoted or racist, that they are talking about policy or what not, it becomes impossible to fight. I have heard it compared to Richard Nixons statement 'I am not a crook'. Most people if they hear a statement like this and know nothing else about the situation will assume this guy must be a crook. Because why would he even have to deny it if he is not? So saying 'I am not a racist' is not effective against these accusations. But if anybody's racist its these groups. The ADL has made the decision to oppose people who talk about international bankers because there are Jews in that group and they want to protect them. The NAACP has made the decision to oppose people who want to slash welfare because there are blacks who recieve welfare and they want to protect them. Listen to their speeches they are obsessed with race. Everything is about race to them. For someone to assume animals means blacks means somewhere in their brain they think blacks are more like 'animals' then whites. How can you logically claim the term 'animals' is directed at blacks when there are more whites in number on welfare then blacks? Ever see a cow sit around eating all day? I very much see a person on wefare like that. To be human means to rise up and innovate and be productive, and to better your species abilities generation after generation.

Here's another one, an extremly promoted view is that the term 'states rights' means you are racist (they are trying to insinuate that it means you want to bring slavery back). The concept of America was that of states rights. The 13 colonies were soverign nations loosely held together by a small federal government with the constitution intended to limit the federal governments power. This is the classic political argument state vs federal power that defined America. But now you cannot be for one side or you are 'racist'. And if anything is a code word its these groups accusations of racism. Notice how all these seemingly brainwashed people instantly feel deep down that it is true? Its not an accident, its designed. Standard socialist strategy (you can read about them on marxists.org) is to set race against race and sex against sex. Also they want to create class warfare. What better way then to open the borders, allow tons of poverty striken people of other races to migrate there, and then set the groups against each other. Immigration is another policy that cannot be argued against either, the other side again will not logically debate, they will simply point and make accusations of racism.

So opposing the federal reserve, standing for states rights, opposing out of control immigration are all issues that even taking a stand for one of them will get a person instantly shot down as a racist. Yet Ron Paul is for all three and is not hindered by these low class tactics. Anyone who makes the accusation will be called out. They put up a real hack here, anyone with integrity who makes this accusation will lose it. I just looked this author up and his latest article is called "Obama's Offensive ‘Southern Strategy’" accusing Obama of being promoting bigotry and homophobia in order to win socially conservative blacks to his side.

 

[Annie]

Ron Paul is facing the repercussions of what he has sown. All of you supporters realise that and get over it. Address what you can, skulk if you feel the need to. RP has years of newsletters, more recent issues with donors. We KNOW, YOU are not racist, just love his message.

 

[CorpMediaSux]

What I don't understand about this debate is why, exactly, is Ron Paul being judged by the people who like him, rather than his actual opinions. While it is unsettling that white supremacists could find solace in Ron Paul's ideology, it does NOT mean that Ron Paul is himself a white supremacist. I don't entirely agree with Paul, but his comments about the corporate media are spot. on. No matter who may agree with him or not. The election cycle IS controlled by the national media. If anything what Iowa and New Hamprshire have shown is that Americans are SICK of being told who they should vote for. And I love that. Seems to me like more of the candidates should be truth tellers like Paul.

 

[Annie]

What I don't understand about this debate is why, exactly, is Ron Paul being judged by the people who like him, rather than his actual opinions. While it is unsettling that white supremacists could find solace in Ron Paul's ideology, it does NOT mean that Ron Paul is himself a white supremacist. I don't entirely agree with Paul, but his comments about the corporate media are spot. on. No matter who may agree with him or not. The election cycle IS controlled by the national media. If anything what Iowa and New Hamprshire have shown is that Americans are SICK of being told who they should vote for. And I love that. Seems to me like more of the candidates should be truth tellers like Paul.

So, vote your heart, RP if that is where it takes you.

 

[ronpaul2008]

Yes Kathianne Ron Paul has years of news letters probably 10's of thousands of pages of writings and the worst thing they found by combing all of it was referring to people on welfare as animals. Are you saying that its not a stretch to allege the term animals did not refer to all people on welfare it actually only referred to people on welfare who were black? If you take Kirchick's position, I do not want to hear accusations, those are meaningless to me, I would like you to present logical evidence that Ron Paul was secretly refering to only black people. If you cannot present evidence your argument is baseless.

 

[Annie]

Yes Kathianne Ron Paul has years of news letters probably 10's of thousands of pages of writings and the worst thing they found by combing all of it was referring to people on welfare as animals. Are you saying that its not a stretch to allege the term animals did not refer to all people on welfare it actually only referred to people on welfare who were black? If you take Kirchick's position, I do not want to hear accusations, those are meaningless to me, I would like you to present logical evidence that Ron Paul was secretly refering to only black people. If you cannot present evidence your argument is baseless.

You didn't read these, did you? You are reading one of the hate sites 'spin' cycles. Good luck with that.

 

[ronpaul2008]

Not even a shred of evidence huh? All you can do is make up baseless accusations?

 

[Annie]

Not even a shred of evidence huh? All you can do is just make up even more baseless accusations?

Hello, you were exposed about 2 posts ago. But do enjoy your visit.

 

[ronpaul2008]

I was exposed? If my argument is coming from a 'hate site' as you allege post the link and expose me then.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

This news story was another inside job by the government and spread by the federally owned national media. A credible source (Steven Jones) told me that the same government agent who pre-planted the explosives in the World Trade Center infiltrated Ron Paul's circle years before and published those newsletters to sabotage a potential Ron Paul candidacy. No really, it's true.

 

[eots]

I was exposed? If my argument is coming from a 'hate site' as you allege post the link and expose me then.

KAT SHOULD HAVE THE LINK SHE SAID DID A LOT OF GROUND BREAKING REASEARCH... BUT THEN ....THAT COULD BE CODE FOR KILL THE JEW VOTE

 

[eots]

This news story was another inside job by the government and spread by the federally owned national media. A credible source (Steven Jones) told me that the same government agent who pre-planted the explosives in the World Trade Center infiltrated Ron Paul's circle years before and published those newsletters to sabotage a potential Ron Paul candidacy. No really, it's true.

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[Dirt McGirt]

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." http://www.ae911truth.org


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 200 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories, and was not hit by an airplane. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


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You don't even know half the story, bud. My credible sources (Charlie Sheen and Rosie O Donnell) told me that James Cameron digitally created the moon landing footage in a special effects studio and then used Al Gore's time machine to send a terminator back to 1969 so it could give the video to NASA. Seriously.

 

[eots]

you think your funny your not. your a mindless little idiot, rosie and charlie sheen ya right you moron

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At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of flying. I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757’s and 767’s and could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.

I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School and have experience flying low altitude, high speed aircraft. I could not have done what these beginners did. Something stinks to high heaven!

Where is the damage to the wall of the Pentagon from the wings? Where are the big pieces that always break away in an accident? Where is all the luggage? Where are the miles and miles of wire, cable, and lines that are part and parcel of any large aircraft? Where are the steel engine parts? Where is the steel landing gear? Where is the tail section that would have broken into large pieces?

I also personally knew American Airlines Captain “Chick” Burlingame, who was the captain of Flight 77 which allegedly hit the Pentagon, and I know he would not have given up his airplane to crazies!

And at the Shanksville Pennsylvania impact site, where is any of the wreckage?!!! Of all the pictures I have seen, there is only a hole! Where is any piece of a crashed airplane? Why was the area cordoned off, and no inspection allowed by the normal accident personnel? Where is any evidence at all?

When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official “story”. ...

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Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."

now who would any rational person listen to these gentlemen or a piece of....like you

 

[JimH52]

Ron Paul is toast...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

 

[eots]

Ron Paul is toast...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

it is just a desperate hit piece it will have little effect

Vicious Ron Paul Hit Piece Scrapes The Barrel Of Yellow JournalismVicious Ron Paul Hit Piece Scrapes The Barrel Of Yellow Journalism ... Carlson asks Kirchick if he ever heard Ron Paul make a racist remark he says "No. ...
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/010808_yellow_journalism.htm - 62k
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[Angel Heart]

Not like Ron Paul has a chance of winning... Really people... Wake up and smell the coffee. He's not going to get the votes. You will scream that it's this that and the other as to why. When it comes down to it... He will not get to the election in Nov, unless he runs 3rd party.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

it is just a desperate hit piece it will have little effect

I agree. It will have little effect because Ron Paul's chances of winning the Presidency will only drop down from 1% to about .9628435%. It's not that much of a change when you look at it in terms of overall percentage.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

Not like Ron Paul has a chance of winning... Really people... Wake up and smell the coffee.

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