The Big Ten is garbage

[Votto]

After watching bowl games again I've come to the conclusion that the Big Ten is utter garbage.

It used to be that Ohio State lifted the whole conference, especially after winning a National title a few years back. But now that they just got humiliated 31 to zip, I'm ready to flush the whole division down the commode.

The final route has started with USC up a touchdown over Penn State who should have stayed in PA with their pedo coaches.

 

[Zander]

I think all 5 of the top tier conferences are about equal in Football. This wasn't the B1G's year....

 

[Votto]

I think all 5 of the top tier conferences are about equal in Football. This wasn't the B1G's year....

Let's not lie to ourselves here. Who has dominated the NCG for the last decade or so?

 

[Zander]

I think all 5 of the top tier conferences are about equal in Football. This wasn't the B1G's year....

Let's not lie to ourselves here. Who has dominated the NCG for the last decade or so?

Nobody.

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2007-8
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
SEC 9 7–2 (0.778) 5
Big 12 8 5–3 (0.625) 5
Big Ten 8 3–5 (0.375) 5
ACC 8 2–6 (0.250) 3
Pac-10 6 4–2 (0.667) 4
Conference USA 6 2–4 (0.333) 0
Mountain West 5 4–1 (0.800) 1
Big East 5 3–2 (0.600) 2
WAC 4 1–3 (0.250) 1
MAC 3 0–3 (0.000) 0
Sun Belt 1 1–0 (1.000) 0
Independents 1 0–1 (0.000) 0

2008-9
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
ACC 10 4–6 (0.400) 2
SEC 8 6–2 (0.750) 4
Big 12 7 4–3 (0.571) 5
Big Ten 7 1–6 (0.143) 4
Big East 6 4–2 (0.667) 2
Conference USA 6 4–2 (0.667) 0
Pac-10 5 5–0 (1.000) 3
Mountain West 5 3–2 (0.600) 3
WAC 5 1–4 (0.200) 1
MAC 5 0–5 (0.000) 1
Independents 2 1–1 (0.500) 0
Sun Belt 2 1–1 (0.500) 0

2009-10
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
SEC 10 6–4 (0.600) 4
Big 12 8 4–4 (0.500) 3
Big Ten 7 4–3 (0.571) 4
ACC 7 3–4 (0.429) 4
Pac-10 7 2–5 (0.286) 2
Big East 6 4–2 (0.667) 3
Conference USA 6 2–4 (0.333) 0
Mountain West 5 4–1 (0.800) 3
MAC 5 1–4 (0.200) 1
WAC 4 2–2 (0.500) 1
Sun Belt 2 1–1 (0.500) 0
Independents 1 1–0 (1.000) 0

2010-11
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
SEC 10 5–5 (0.500) 6
ACC 9 4–5 (0.444) 4
Big 12 8 3–5 (0.375) 5
Big Ten 8 3–5 (0.375) 4
Big East 6 4–2 (0.667) 2
Conference USA 6 2–4 (0.333) 0
Mountain West 5 4–1 (0.800) 2
Pac-10 4 2–2 (0.500) 2
MAC 4 2–2 (0.500) 0
WAC 4 2–2 (0.500) 3
Sun Belt 3 2–1 (0.667) 0
Independents 3 2–1 (0.667) 0

2011-12
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
Big Ten 10 4–6 (0.400) 4
SEC 9 6–3 (0.667) 5
ACC 8 2–6 (0.250) 3
Big 12 8 6–2 (0.750) 4
Pac-12 7 2–5 (0.286) 3
Big East 5 3–2 (0.600) 2
Conference USA 5 4–1 (0.800) 2
MAC 5 4–1 (0.800) 0
Mountain West 5 2–3 (0.400) 2
Sun Belt 3 1–2 (0.333) 0
WAC 3 0–3 (0.000) 0
Independents 2 1–1 (0.500) 0

2012-13
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
Big 12 9 4–5 (0.444) 3
SEC 9 6–3 (0.667) 7
Pac-12 8 4–4 (0.500) 3
Big Ten 7 2–5 (0.286) 4
MAC 7 2–5 (0.286) 2
ACC 6 4–2 (0.667) 2
Big East 5 3–2 (0.600) 1
Conference USA 5 4–1 (0.800) 0
Mountain West 5 1–4 (0.200) 0
Sun Belt 4 2–2 (0.500) 0
Independents 3 1–2 (0.333) 1
WAC 2 2–0 (1.000) 2

2013-14
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
ACC 11 5–6 (0.455) 4
SEC 10 7–3 (0.700) 7
Pac-12 9 6–3 (0.667) 6
Big Ten 7 2–5 (0.286) 3
Big 12 6 3–3 (0.500) 3
Conference USA 6 3–3 (0.500) 0
Mountain West 6 3–3 (0.500) 0
American 5 2–3 (0.400) 1
MAC 5 0–5 (0.000) 0
Independents 3 2–1 (0.667) 1
Sun Belt 2 2–0 (1.000) 0

2014-15
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
SEC 12 7–5 (0.583) 6
Big Ten 11 6–5 (0.545) 3
ACC 11 4–7 (0.364) 4
Pac-12 9 6–3 (0.667) 6
Mountain West 7 3–4 (0.429) 1
Big 12 7 2–5 (0.286) 3
Conference USA 5 4–1 (0.800) 1
American 5 2–3 (0.400) 1
MAC 5 2–3 (0.400) 0
Independents 3 2–1 (0.667) 0
Sun Belt 3 1–2 (0.333) 0

2015-16
Conference Bowls Record Final AP Poll
SEC 11 9–2 (0.818) 5
Pac-12 10 6–4 (0.600) 3
Big Ten 10 5–5 (0.500) 6
ACC 10 4–6 (0.400) 3
Mountain West 8 4–4 (0.500) 0
The American 8 2–6 (0.250) 2
Big 12 7 3–4 (0.429) 4
MAC 7 3–4 (0.429) 0
Conference USA 5 3–2 (0.600) 1
Sun Belt 4 2–2 (0.500) 0
Independents 2 0–2 (0.000) 1

2016-17 SO FAR
Conference Bowls Record
SEC 13 6–5 (0.545)
ACC 12 8–3 (0.727)
Big Ten 10 3–6 (0.333)
American 7 2–5 (0.286)
Conference USA 7 4–3 (0.571)
Mountain West 7 4–3 (0.571)
Big 12 6 3–2 (0.600)
MAC 6 0–6 (0.000)
Pac-12 6 2–3 (0.400)
Sun Belt 6 4–2 (0.667)
Independents 2 2–0 (1.000)

 

[WinterBorn]

Conferences may not have outshined each other. But one school did.

 

[Zander]

Conferences may not have outshined each other. But one school did.

I assume you mean Alabama. If they win this year they'll be 5 of the last 11.....not a bad run.

But when you look at things in time perspective.......

2016 ??????
2015 January 11, 2016 2 Alabama Crimson Tide 45 1 Clemson Tigers 40 University of Phoenix Stadium
2014 January 12, 2015 4 Ohio State 42 2 Oregon 20 AT&T Stadium
2013 January 6, 2014 1 Florida St. 34 2 Auburn 31 BCS National Championship
2012 January 7, 2013 2 Alabama 42 1 Notre Dame 14 BCS National Championship
2011 January 9, 2012 2 Alabama 21 1 LSU 0 BCS National Championship
2010 January 10, 2011 1 Auburn 22 2 Oregon 19 BCS National Championship
2009 January 7, 2010 1 Alabama 37 2 Texas 21 BCS National Championship
2008 January 8, 2009 1 Florida 24 2 Oklahoma 14 BCS National Championship
2007 January 7, 2008 2 LSU 38 1 Ohio State 24 BCS National Championship
2006 January 8, 2007 2 Florida 41 1 Ohio State 14 BCS National Championship
2005 January 4, 2006 2 Texas 41 1 USC 38 Rose Bowl
2004 January 4, 2005 1 USC 55 2 Oklahoma 19 Orange Bowl
2003 January 4, 2004 2 LSU 21 3 Oklahoma 14 Sugar Bowl
2002 January 3, 2003 2 Ohio State 31 1 Miami 24 Fiesta Bowl
2001 January 3, 2002 1 Miami 37 4 Nebraska 14 Rose Bowl
2000 January 3, 2001 1 Oklahoma 13 3 Florida St. 2 Orange Bowl
1999 January 4, 2000 1 Florida St. 46 2 Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl
1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl
1997 January 2, 1998 2 Nebraska 42 3 Tennessee 17 Orange Bowl
1996 January 2, 1997 3 Florida 52 1 Florida St. 20 Sugar Bowl
1995 January 2, 1996 1 Nebraska 62 2 Florida 24 Fiesta Bowl
1994 January 1, 1995 1 Nebraska 24 3 Miami 17 Orange Bowl
1993 January 1, 1994 1 Florida St. 18 2 Nebraska 16 Orange Bowl
1992 January 1, 1993 2 Alabama 34 1 Miami 13 Sugar Bowl

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

The Big 10 has been overrated for years.

They have only become slightly better by brining the likes of Nebraska and Penn State into the conference.

 

[WinterBorn]

Conferences may not have outshined each other. But one school did.

I assume you mean Alabama. If they win this year they'll be 5 of the last 11.....not a bad run.

But when you look at things in time perspective.......

2016 ??????
2015 January 11, 2016 2 Alabama Crimson Tide 45 1 Clemson Tigers 40 University of Phoenix Stadium
2014 January 12, 2015 4 Ohio State 42 2 Oregon 20 AT&T Stadium
2013 January 6, 2014 1 Florida St. 34 2 Auburn 31 BCS National Championship
2012 January 7, 2013 2 Alabama 42 1 Notre Dame 14 BCS National Championship
2011 January 9, 2012 2 Alabama 21 1 LSU 0 BCS National Championship
2010 January 10, 2011 1 Auburn 22 2 Oregon 19 BCS National Championship
2009 January 7, 2010 1 Alabama 37 2 Texas 21 BCS National Championship
2008 January 8, 2009 1 Florida 24 2 Oklahoma 14 BCS National Championship
2007 January 7, 2008 2 LSU 38 1 Ohio State 24 BCS National Championship
2006 January 8, 2007 2 Florida 41 1 Ohio State 14 BCS National Championship
2005 January 4, 2006 2 Texas 41 1 USC 38 Rose Bowl
2004 January 4, 2005 1 USC 55 2 Oklahoma 19 Orange Bowl
2003 January 4, 2004 2 LSU 21 3 Oklahoma 14 Sugar Bowl
2002 January 3, 2003 2 Ohio State 31 1 Miami 24 Fiesta Bowl
2001 January 3, 2002 1 Miami 37 4 Nebraska 14 Rose Bowl
2000 January 3, 2001 1 Oklahoma 13 3 Florida St. 2 Orange Bowl
1999 January 4, 2000 1 Florida St. 46 2 Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl
1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl
1997 January 2, 1998 2 Nebraska 42 3 Tennessee 17 Orange Bowl
1996 January 2, 1997 3 Florida 52 1 Florida St. 20 Sugar Bowl
1995 January 2, 1996 1 Nebraska 62 2 Florida 24 Fiesta Bowl
1994 January 1, 1995 1 Nebraska 24 3 Miami 17 Orange Bowl
1993 January 1, 1994 1 Florida St. 18 2 Nebraska 16 Orange Bowl
1992 January 1, 1993 2 Alabama 34 1 Miami 13 Sugar Bowl

I was referring to the 2007-2016 numbers you were using.

 

[Zander]

Conferences may not have outshined each other. But one school did.

I assume you mean Alabama. If they win this year they'll be 5 of the last 11.....not a bad run.

But when you look at things in time perspective.......

2016 ??????
2015 January 11, 2016 2 Alabama Crimson Tide 45 1 Clemson Tigers 40 University of Phoenix Stadium
2014 January 12, 2015 4 Ohio State 42 2 Oregon 20 AT&T Stadium
2013 January 6, 2014 1 Florida St. 34 2 Auburn 31 BCS National Championship
2012 January 7, 2013 2 Alabama 42 1 Notre Dame 14 BCS National Championship
2011 January 9, 2012 2 Alabama 21 1 LSU 0 BCS National Championship
2010 January 10, 2011 1 Auburn 22 2 Oregon 19 BCS National Championship
2009 January 7, 2010 1 Alabama 37 2 Texas 21 BCS National Championship
2008 January 8, 2009 1 Florida 24 2 Oklahoma 14 BCS National Championship
2007 January 7, 2008 2 LSU 38 1 Ohio State 24 BCS National Championship
2006 January 8, 2007 2 Florida 41 1 Ohio State 14 BCS National Championship
2005 January 4, 2006 2 Texas 41 1 USC 38 Rose Bowl
2004 January 4, 2005 1 USC 55 2 Oklahoma 19 Orange Bowl
2003 January 4, 2004 2 LSU 21 3 Oklahoma 14 Sugar Bowl
2002 January 3, 2003 2 Ohio State 31 1 Miami 24 Fiesta Bowl
2001 January 3, 2002 1 Miami 37 4 Nebraska 14 Rose Bowl
2000 January 3, 2001 1 Oklahoma 13 3 Florida St. 2 Orange Bowl
1999 January 4, 2000 1 Florida St. 46 2 Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl
1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl
1997 January 2, 1998 2 Nebraska 42 3 Tennessee 17 Orange Bowl
1996 January 2, 1997 3 Florida 52 1 Florida St. 20 Sugar Bowl
1995 January 2, 1996 1 Nebraska 62 2 Florida 24 Fiesta Bowl
1994 January 1, 1995 1 Nebraska 24 3 Miami 17 Orange Bowl
1993 January 1, 1994 1 Florida St. 18 2 Nebraska 16 Orange Bowl
1992 January 1, 1993 2 Alabama 34 1 Miami 13 Sugar Bowl

I was referring to the 2007-2016 numbers you were using.

No worries. They are a great program with a long history of excellence in Football.

 

[Votto]

Conferences may not have outshined each other. But one school did.

I assume you mean Alabama. If they win this year they'll be 5 of the last 11.....not a bad run.

But when you look at things in time perspective.......

2016 ??????
2015 January 11, 2016 2 Alabama Crimson Tide 45 1 Clemson Tigers 40 University of Phoenix Stadium
2014 January 12, 2015 4 Ohio State 42 2 Oregon 20 AT&T Stadium
2013 January 6, 2014 1 Florida St. 34 2 Auburn 31 BCS National Championship
2012 January 7, 2013 2 Alabama 42 1 Notre Dame 14 BCS National Championship
2011 January 9, 2012 2 Alabama 21 1 LSU 0 BCS National Championship
2010 January 10, 2011 1 Auburn 22 2 Oregon 19 BCS National Championship
2009 January 7, 2010 1 Alabama 37 2 Texas 21 BCS National Championship
2008 January 8, 2009 1 Florida 24 2 Oklahoma 14 BCS National Championship
2007 January 7, 2008 2 LSU 38 1 Ohio State 24 BCS National Championship
2006 January 8, 2007 2 Florida 41 1 Ohio State 14 BCS National Championship
2005 January 4, 2006 2 Texas 41 1 USC 38 Rose Bowl
2004 January 4, 2005 1 USC 55 2 Oklahoma 19 Orange Bowl
2003 January 4, 2004 2 LSU 21 3 Oklahoma 14 Sugar Bowl
2002 January 3, 2003 2 Ohio State 31 1 Miami 24 Fiesta Bowl
2001 January 3, 2002 1 Miami 37 4 Nebraska 14 Rose Bowl
2000 January 3, 2001 1 Oklahoma 13 3 Florida St. 2 Orange Bowl
1999 January 4, 2000 1 Florida St. 46 2 Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl
1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl
1997 January 2, 1998 2 Nebraska 42 3 Tennessee 17 Orange Bowl
1996 January 2, 1997 3 Florida 52 1 Florida St. 20 Sugar Bowl
1995 January 2, 1996 1 Nebraska 62 2 Florida 24 Fiesta Bowl
1994 January 1, 1995 1 Nebraska 24 3 Miami 17 Orange Bowl
1993 January 1, 1994 1 Florida St. 18 2 Nebraska 16 Orange Bowl
1992 January 1, 1993 2 Alabama 34 1 Miami 13 Sugar Bowl

The SEC has won 12 national titles in this time frame.

They have dominated.

If you count from 2003, when the SEC kinda took over, they have won 9 out of 13.

That is dominance. I see LSU is back now. Yippee.

 

[antiquity]

The Big 10 has been overrated for years.

They have only become slightly better by brining the likes of Nebraska and Penn State into the conference.

And added two patsies to the conference in Rutgers and Maryland.

 

[antiquity]

The Big 10 has been overrated for years.

They have only become slightly better by brining the likes of Nebraska and Penn State into the conference.

Didn't all the top ranked teams in the BIG conference get whipped....Well Wisconsin did beat Western Michigan, barely..whoppie.

 

[rightwinger]

Big 10 had four teams ranked in the top ten (Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin)

Only Wisconsin won its bowl game and they beat a MAC team

 

[Moonglow]

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

 

[antiquity]

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

So you think that is because so many of the poll voters live in the Eastern part of the US?

 

[Votto]

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

And they will stay there until they face an SEC team.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

 

[antiquity]

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

And they will stay there until they face an SEC team.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

SEC teams seldom play out of the South. Home and home non conference games are unheard of. The PAC 12 and Big 10 play each other in home and home games regularly.

SEC play a lot of soft non conference games to pad their records and never on their away schedule. Non-conference teams will sacrifice their players for the big pay day to play in large stadiums in the SEC. They can make more money in one game against a SEC team then in 6-7 home games.

 

[WinterBorn]

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

And they will stay there until they face an SEC team.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

SEC teams seldom play out of the South. Home and home non conference games are unheard of. The PAC 12 and Big 10 play each other in home and home games regularly.

SEC play a lot of soft non conference games to pad their records and never on their away schedule. Non-conference teams will sacrifice their players for the big pay day to play in large stadiums in the SEC. They can make more money in one game against a SEC team then in 6-7 home games.

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

And they will stay there until they face an SEC team.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

SEC teams seldom play out of the South. Home and home non conference games are unheard of. The PAC 12 and Big 10 play each other in home and home games regularly.

SEC play a lot of soft non conference games to pad their records and never on their away schedule. Non-conference teams will sacrifice their players for the big pay day to play in large stadiums in the SEC. They can make more money in one game against a SEC team then in 6-7 home games.

Since Saban arrived, Alabama has played season openers with Clemson, VA Tech, Michigan, WVA, Wisconsin & USC. We also had a home and away deal with Penn State (pity it wasn't renewed after 2 games).

 

[antiquity]

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

And they will stay there until they face an SEC team.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

SEC teams seldom play out of the South. Home and home non conference games are unheard of. The PAC 12 and Big 10 play each other in home and home games regularly.

SEC play a lot of soft non conference games to pad their records and never on their away schedule. Non-conference teams will sacrifice their players for the big pay day to play in large stadiums in the SEC. They can make more money in one game against a SEC team then in 6-7 home games.

yet next year when the polls come out, the Big ten will be in the top 10.......

And they will stay there until they face an SEC team.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

SEC teams seldom play out of the South. Home and home non conference games are unheard of. The PAC 12 and Big 10 play each other in home and home games regularly.

SEC play a lot of soft non conference games to pad their records and never on their away schedule. Non-conference teams will sacrifice their players for the big pay day to play in large stadiums in the SEC. They can make more money in one game against a SEC team then in 6-7 home games.

Since Saban arrived, Alabama has played season openers with Clemson, VA Tech, Michigan, WVA, Wisconsin & USC. We also had a home and away deal with Penn State (pity it wasn't renewed after 2 games).

All were played a bus stop away from Alabama. I was talking about home and home non-conference games, and I didn't mean Beth-Cooking school or Chatnacoocoo..

 

[WinterBorn]

The Big10 went 3-7 in bowls this year. The Big10 East went 0-5. Northwestern currently holds the conference's longest winning streak at 2 games.