No, the confluence of FOUR rivers is actually exceptional. And, of course the Euphrates is one of the named rivers so that does narrow your search region down a bit.
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The Bible as Science
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No, the confluence of FOUR rivers is actually exceptional. And, of course the Euphrates is one of the named rivers so that does narrow your search region down a bit.
1) Kings David and Solomon and their kingdom... utter bullshitButt you didn't say it was a "quite good" map, you said it was a quite good history book. You still have a lot of explaining to do. Because,. frankly, it is rife with historical inaccuracies.Pretty much every place in the Bible that is checked, yes.
Name three.
2) anachronistic camels
3) timing of the exodus
How about backing up your claim with some evidence. Opinion isn't evidence, or do you not know that?
King David eh? In 1993 a broken stele was discovered in norther Israel, I can't remember the name of the stele but the inscription is called the tel Dan inscription and it recounts a victory of an Aramean king over his enemies to the south. The inscription specifically mentions the House of King David, and the king of Israel. There was an earlier find by Bedouins in the early 1800's IIRC called the Mesha stele and it too mentions the House of David. It was written in an early dialect called Moabite.
Solomon is another issue, while there is no direct evidence of him, the stele's that reference his House are pretty compelling evidence that the kingdom of David is factual, as Solomon was his 9th or 10th son (according to tradition), it is certainly possible that direct evidence of him will be found. There have been clay seals found that support the claims that there was a advanced culture at the time indicated. Like I said, not definitive, but supportive.
As to the camel issue, that claim is based on a single study, there are other studies that support the patriarchal era camels.
Who knows when the exodus occurred. Scholars have been arguing about the timing for centuries. The only reason why Ramesses was put forth as the Pharaoh is because he was the most powerful of the ancient leaders and he built the City of Heliopolis. However, there is an even earlier city that Heliopolis was built over (or did you not know that?), that city dates to a more appropriate time for the exodus to have occurred.
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"Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
The Bible is not a history or science textbook. I has some history in it but that is secondary to it's place as a theological work. If a myth or oral history fits the theological narrative then it is kept, if it can be improved it will be altered or added to. Truth is secondary to theology and crowing that Biblical history is confirmed by science will only highlight the times where the Bible is contradicted by science or history."Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
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The Bible is not a history or science textbook. I has some history in it but that is secondary to it's place as a theological work. If a myth or oral history fits the theological narrative then it is kept, if it can be improved it will be altered or added to. Truth is secondary to theology and crowing that Biblical history is confirmed by science will only highlight the times where the Bible is contradicted by science or history."Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
So your response to the archaeological discoveries in the post you've linked to is the usual 'is not, issssssss noooooottttttt!!!'
How.....unusual
The Bible is not a history or science textbook. I has some history in it but that is secondary to it's place as a theological work. If a myth or oral history fits the theological narrative then it is kept, if it can be improved it will be altered or added to. Truth is secondary to theology and crowing that Biblical history is confirmed by science will only highlight the times where the Bible is contradicted by science or history."Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
So your response to the archaeological discoveries in the post you've linked to is the usual 'is not, issssssss noooooottttttt!!!'
How.....unusual
“Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate”
A rather grandiose claim. Nothing in this alleged discovery proves a 6,000 year old earth, a 600 year old Noah, a global flood, or corrects any of the other obvious fallacies and breaks with the physical sciences in the Bible.
More science and less Disney is in order.
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The Bible is not a history or science textbook. I has some history in it but that is secondary to it's place as a theological work. If a myth or oral history fits the theological narrative then it is kept, if it can be improved it will be altered or added to. Truth is secondary to theology and crowing that Biblical history is confirmed by science will only highlight the times where the Bible is contradicted by science or history."Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
So your response to the archaeological discoveries in the post you've linked to is the usual 'is not, issssssss noooooottttttt!!!'
How.....unusual
“Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate”
A rather grandiose claim. Nothing in this alleged discovery proves a 6,000 year old earth, a 600 year old Noah, a global flood, or corrects any of the other obvious fallacies and breaks with the physical sciences in the Bible.
More science and less Disney is in order.
Can you quote any claim about this "Nothing in this alleged discovery proves a 6,000 year old earth, a 600 year old Noah, a global flood,..." in the post?
If not, you are simply a self-identified lying fool.
The Bible is not a history or science textbook. I has some history in it but that is secondary to it's place as a theological work. If a myth or oral history fits the theological narrative then it is kept, if it can be improved it will be altered or added to. Truth is secondary to theology and crowing that Biblical history is confirmed by science will only highlight the times where the Bible is contradicted by science or history."Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
So your response to the archaeological discoveries in the post you've linked to is the usual 'is not, issssssss noooooottttttt!!!'
How.....unusual
“Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate”
A rather grandiose claim. Nothing in this alleged discovery proves a 6,000 year old earth, a 600 year old Noah, a global flood, or corrects any of the other obvious fallacies and breaks with the physical sciences in the Bible.
More science and less Disney is in order.
Can you quote any claim about this "Nothing in this alleged discovery proves a 6,000 year old earth, a 600 year old Noah, a global flood,..." in the post?
If not, you are simply a self-identified lying fool.
I understand your feelings are hurt but that’s no reason for another of your saliva-slinging rants.
The article you linked to was titled ““Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate“
Accurate with regard to referencing a city? That’s fine. Of course, there is still no peer review of the data, just a cut and paste article.
Or,....Science: A Witness Attesting To Biblical Accuracy
Science is the collection of correct knowledge. Whether it is 'correct' is determined via empirical data, and the scientific method.
The historical accuracy of the Bible is proven by the science of archaeology....and, the, astounding as it is, the modern views of cosmology, the study of the origin of the universe, also verifies the Bible.
I'll get to that....
No. The historical, or, in your case, the “hysterical” accuracy of the Bible is not proven by the science of archeology. In fact, there is no archeological evidence of a global flood. Let’s be honest here, absent the flood and Noah’s pleasure cruise, an entire central theme and fundamental element of the Bible ceases to exist.
Most scientists believe in God.
No. They dont.
The March for Science Isn’t Anti-Religion. Most Scientists Aren’t Either.
Full disclosure: We did find that scientists at top universities are much less likely to believe in God than the general population in several national contexts. And many of them do believe that science is the only true way of understanding the world. However, few are actively hostile toward religion. The proportion who believe there is no God varied immensely by nation, ranging from a high of 51 percent in France to a low of 6 percent in Turkey. But I could count on two hands the number of atheist scientists we met who are as strongly anti-religious as Dawkins, the outspoken evolutionary biologist.
As I tried to say, there is plenty of truth in the Bible and I have little reason to doubt there was a Jewish King David and he lived in ancient Palestine. I just feel you are doing a disservice to the Bible by holding up scientific backing for the history and geography in it. But, if you live by science you die by science since much of science directly contradicts what is in the Bible. If the Bible is claimed to be scientifically, historically, and geographically accurate it will disappoint. Keep to theology and you'll be fine.The Bible is not a history or science textbook. I has some history in it but that is secondary to it's place as a theological work. If a myth or oral history fits the theological narrative then it is kept, if it can be improved it will be altered or added to. Truth is secondary to theology and crowing that Biblical history is confirmed by science will only highlight the times where the Bible is contradicted by science or history.
So your response to the archaeological discoveries in the post you've linked to is the usual 'is not, issssssss noooooottttttt!!!'
How.....unusual
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"Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
I don't understand the hoopla.
expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building
Historians believe they have uncovered a building
The first line says it proves something.
The second line says they believe it.
Belief is not the same as proof.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. A nice review of Biblical wars.Or,....Science: A Witness Attesting To Biblical Accuracy
Science is the collection of correct knowledge. Whether it is 'correct' is determined via empirical data, and the scientific method.
The historical accuracy of the Bible is proven by the science of archaeology....
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The historical accuracy of the Bible is proven by the science of archaeology....and, the, astounding as it is, the modern views of cosmology, the study of the origin of the universe, also verifies the Bible.
I'll get to that....
That should be good, I always loved the story of Noah's ark, have archeaologists finally found it?
Well, we got all the water still. Most think we won't find it because Noah's family had to use it for survival.
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It was proven that the chicken came before the egg in 2017.
"So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:21
"So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:21
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This is stupid. Hey, guess what....London exists! It's true. But nobody would then say that is proof that the Harry Potter series is accurate."Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Historians believe they have uncovered a building belonging to the settlement linked to the Biblical king
...radiocarbon dating confirmed the city came from around the same time.
According to Breaking Israel News, archaeologists were aided by burrowing mole rats, who bring earth to the surface - which gives them a clue as to what is hiding below.
Professor Faust and Yair Sapir, of Bar-Ilan University, believes the building could be part of the city of Eglon.
The city is mentioned in the Bible as one of the five which fought against the Israelites before being conquered."
Ancient lost city of King David is uncovered near Jerusalem and expert says it proves the Bible is accurate
Well, nobody thinking rationally or honestly, that is .
You all abandoned reason long ago, when it comes to this religious hoo-ha.
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Haha....dang, you religious nutballs say the most adorable things.It was proven that the chicken came before the egg in 2017.
In what the rest of us call "reality", the egg appeared in the fossil record long before chickens. As did birds in general.
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