CDZ The best strategy, disarming law abiding gun owners, or keeping criminals locked up.

[2aguy]

Locking up and keeping locked up...violent gun offenders is how you actually stop gun crime and gun murder....... not by creating more and more legal traps for normal people who own and carry guns for self defense.....

Again- we lock up 2 million people, and we have the HIGHEST murder rates in the industrialized world.

If guns and locking up people was the answer... we'd be there by now.

Not if you idiots keep letting them out! What part of that doesn't your lying ass understand?

CDZ

 

[JoeB131]

Not if you idiots keep letting them out! What part of that doesn't your lying ass understand?

Who are we letting out?

The Prison-Industrial Complex is at its heart, self-defeating. Once you put someone in jail, for something petty like, "Having a gun when we said you can't have a gun", you've pretty much made him unemployable for the rest of his life.

If we locked up the petty criminals forever, we'd have a prison population of ten million... we can't afford that. We can't really afford what we are doing now.

 

[JoeB131]

They didn't have a murder problem before they banned guns....and now, with changing demographics they now have an increasing murder problem....you don't know what you are talking about...

Right.. they didn't have a murder problem because guns were never really "a thing" in those countries.

Japan, for instance, only the Samurai Class had weapons before the Meiji Restoration. Then to make sure that the reforms held, the Samurai class was disarmed, which is why it is not only illegal to own a gun in Japan but a sword as well.

The result... The have 362 Murders a year compared to our 19,492

And before you start your usual whining about how Japan is a "Police State"....

They only lock up 69,000 people compared to our 2 million...

Their police aren't armed like soldiers and they don't shoot 900 people a year like our cops do. In fact, in Japan, it's considered a bit of a scandal of the police even pull their guns out of their holsters.

 

[2aguy]

Not if you idiots keep letting them out! What part of that doesn't your lying ass understand?

Who are we letting out?

The Prison-Industrial Complex is at its heart, self-defeating. Once you put someone in jail, for something petty like, "Having a gun when we said you can't have a gun", you've pretty much made him unemployable for the rest of his life.

If we locked up the petty criminals forever, we'd have a prison population of ten million... we can't afford that. We can't really afford what we are doing now.

Nope, you are wrong........ when we talk violent killers, they are a tiny number of repeat offenders who do almost all of the killing in this country.......

Roy Exum: How We Stop The Bullets

David Kennedy, a renowned criminal justice professor and co-chair of the National Network for Safe Communities, believes that places like the 1500 block of East 50th Street where Deontrey was killed, or Central Avenue where two other Chattanoogans were shot around the same time, aren’t necessarily bad areas. Good people live in those areas, just as the overwhelming numbers of those who live in our inner city are decent and law-abiding citizens.
No, our new focus isn’t on neighborhoods like Alton Park or East Chattanooga but instead on “hot” places” and “hot” people. In an article entitled, “The Story Behind the Nation’s Falling Body Count,” Kennedy writes, “Research on hot spots shows violence to be concentrated in ‘micro’ places, rather than ‘dangerous neighborhoods,’ as the popular idea goes. Blocks, corners, and buildings representing just five or six percent of an entire city will drive half of its serious crime.”


The same is true about people. “We now know that homicide and gun violence are overwhelmingly concentrated among serious offenders operating in groups: gangs, drug crews, and the like representing under half of one percent of a city's population who commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”
Read it once more: “ … under half of one percent … commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”


It is vitally important for us to realize the recent “worst of the worst” roundup had very little to do with race, yet to the uninformed it clearly appeared that only blacks were targeted.
Try to forget that all were black and focus instead on the far greater fact – there is ample evidence that each is alleged to be a serious criminal.
Kennedy writes, “We also know some reliable predictors of risk: individuals who have a history of violence or a close connection with prior victims are far more likely to be involved in violence themselves.
Hot groups and people are so hot that when their offending is statistically abstracted, their neighborhoods cease to be dangerous. Their communities aren't dangerous; (these criminals) are.”

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Just in Chicago...

Gang Killers In Chicago Used Christmas Gatherings To Target Their Victims

Gang killers, knowing their targets would be home for Christmas, launched a bloody weekend of shootings in Chicago that left 11 dead and another 37 wounded.

"We now know that the majority of these shootings and homicides were targeted attacks by gangs against potential rivals who were at holiday gatherings. This was followed by several acts of retaliatory gun violence," police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement Monday.

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The violence primarily occurred in areas with historical gang conflicts on the South and West Side of Chicago."

"Ninety percent of those fatally wounded had gang affiliations, criminal histories and were pre-identified by the department's strategic subject algorithm as being a potential suspect or victim of gun violence," Guglielmi said.
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Wisconsin.....

As Gun-Related Deaths Increase, Prior Criminal Records Is Common Link Among Shooters, Victims | Wisconsin Public Radio

Almost two-thirds of the fatal shootings in the state have taken place in Milwaukee. The others are scattered around 15 different cities and towns. In almost all cases, however, both victims and alleged perpetrators have criminal records.

Mallory O'Brien, of the Milwaukee Homicide Review Commission, tracks those numbers for the city of Milwaukee.

"(About) 94 percent of our victims have an arrest history and 93 percent of our suspects have an arrest history," O'Brien said.

O'Brien said the same percentage is true for non-fatal shooting incidents. There's been an increase in those numbers as well. By the end of June of last year, there were 204 cases and the count at the six-month mark this year, there have been 248 incidents -- a 21-percent increase. She said there' also been an increase in the number of shooting incidents with multiple victims.

 

[2aguy]

They didn't have a murder problem before they banned guns....and now, with changing demographics they now have an increasing murder problem....you don't know what you are talking about...

Right.. they didn't have a murder problem because guns were never really "a thing" in those countries.

Japan, for instance, only the Samurai Class had weapons before the Meiji Restoration. Then to make sure that the reforms held, the Samurai class was disarmed, which is why it is not only illegal to own a gun in Japan but a sword as well.

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The result... The have 362 Murders a year compared to our 19,492

And before you start your usual whining about how Japan is a "Police State"....

They only lock up 69,000 people compared to our 2 million...

Their police aren't armed like soldiers and they don't shoot 900 people a year like our cops do. In fact, in Japan, it's considered a bit of a scandal of the police even pull their guns out of their holsters.

Japanese culture is based on the individual conforming to the group, and they have a police state where the police and prosecutors have powers you wouldn't be able to live under.....and an over 95% conviction rate for criminals.....

And the only way they stopped the Yakuza from using guns and grenades? Long prison sentences for gun crimes.....before that the Yakuza used guns at will.....and grenades....

https://www.asiatimes.com/2017/12/article/japans-gun-control-laws-strict-yakuza-turn-toy-pistols/



Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

“In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty. The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

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A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”

 

[2aguy]

They didn't have a murder problem before they banned guns....and now, with changing demographics they now have an increasing murder problem....you don't know what you are talking about...

Right.. they didn't have a murder problem because guns were never really "a thing" in those countries.

Japan, for instance, only the Samurai Class had weapons before the Meiji Restoration. Then to make sure that the reforms held, the Samurai class was disarmed, which is why it is not only illegal to own a gun in Japan but a sword as well.

View attachment 285190

The result... The have 362 Murders a year compared to our 19,492

And before you start your usual whining about how Japan is a "Police State"....

They only lock up 69,000 people compared to our 2 million...

Their police aren't armed like soldiers and they don't shoot 900 people a year like our cops do. In fact, in Japan, it's considered a bit of a scandal of the police even pull their guns out of their holsters.

This is why Japan doesn't have high crime rates of any kind...

Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.



Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't. A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates. Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

The police box system contrasts sharply with the practice in America. Here, most departments adopt a policy of "stranger policing." To prevent corruption, police are frequently rotated from one neighborhood to another. But as federal judge Charles Silberman writes, "the cure is worse than the disease, for officers develop no sense of identification with their beats, hence no emotional stake in improving the quality of life there."

Thus, the U.S. citizenry does not develop a supportive relationship with the police. One poll showed that 60% of police officers believe "it is difficult to persuade people to give patrolmen the information they need."

The Japanese police do not spend all their time in the koban boxes. As the Japanese government puts it: "Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police boxes." Making annual visits to each home in their beat, officers keep track of who lives where, and which family member to contact in case of emergency. The police also check on all gun licensees, to make sure no gun has been stolen or misused, that the gun is securely stored, and that the licensees are emotionally stable.

Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope, you are wrong........ when we talk violent killers, they are a tiny number of repeat offenders who do almost all of the killing in this country.......

Half of homicides are domestic violence... only 10% are people killed by strangers.

 

[Blues Man]

Not if you idiots keep letting them out! What part of that doesn't your lying ass understand?

Who are we letting out?

The Prison-Industrial Complex is at its heart, self-defeating. Once you put someone in jail, for something petty like, "Having a gun when we said you can't have a gun", you've pretty much made him unemployable for the rest of his life.

If we locked up the petty criminals forever, we'd have a prison population of ten million... we can't afford that. We can't really afford what we are doing now.

So you whine about guns and now you don't want to lock up people who break gun laws

Just go argue with yourself and stop wasting my time

 

[Blues Man]

Nope, you are wrong........ when we talk violent killers, they are a tiny number of repeat offenders who do almost all of the killing in this country.......

Half of homicides are domestic violence... only 10% are people killed by strangers.

Yeah just ignore that 50% that the relationship is unknown

 

[2aguy]

Nope, you are wrong........ when we talk violent killers, they are a tiny number of repeat offenders who do almost all of the killing in this country.......

Half of homicides are domestic violence... only 10% are people killed by strangers.

Do you understand that Acquaintance means they simply knew their killer? That means....and this is the CDZ......that the gang members shooting each other from rival gangs simply knew each other....

Do you really not understand that?

 

[JoeB131]

This is why Japan doesn't have high crime rates of any kind...

Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.

Again, when you lock up 2 million people, have cops armed like soldiers, are practicing "Active Shooter Drills" at every work place and all the other security measures, how "Free" are you?

Seems to me that we are at the mercy of criminals in that circumstance...

 

[2aguy]

Nope, you are wrong........ when we talk violent killers, they are a tiny number of repeat offenders who do almost all of the killing in this country.......

Half of homicides are domestic violence... only 10% are people killed by strangers.

And those doing the killing in the home....are not normal people ..... they are still violent criminals with long histories of crime and violence and police interactions........

The Criminology of Firearms


In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong.

The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."

 

[Blues Man]

This is why Japan doesn't have high crime rates of any kind...

Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.

Again, when you lock up 2 million people, have cops armed like soldiers, are practicing "Active Shooter Drills" at every work place and all the other security measures, how "Free" are you?

Seems to me that we are at the mercy of criminals in that circumstance...

Stop with the histrionics

The majority of people in this country have never been involved in an active shooter drill

 

[2aguy]

This is why Japan doesn't have high crime rates of any kind...

Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.

Again, when you lock up 2 million people, have cops armed like soldiers, are practicing "Active Shooter Drills" at every work place and all the other security measures, how "Free" are you?

Seems to me that we are at the mercy of criminals in that circumstance...

Mass public shootings in 2018....

12.

Total killed...

93


Cars killed over 38,000

Mass shooter drills are overhyped for the rarest of rare problems........exploited by anti-gun activists like you to push your agenda.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah just ignore that 50% that the relationship is unknown

because they don't know who killed them...

This is another problem with your "lock em up" strategy. Right now, in Chicago, only 17% of murder cases are cleared. (But the cops did prove Jussie Smollet beat himself up... that's the important thing.)

 

[JoeB131]

Mass public shootings in 2018....

12.

Total killed...

93


Cars killed over 38,000

Here we go... the usual "Pools and dogs are more dangerous" thinking of parsing numbers and calling things what they aren't.

We had 300+ mass shootings in 2018.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah just ignore that 50% that the relationship is unknown

because they don't know who killed them...

This is another problem with your "lock em up" strategy. Right now, in Chicago, only 17% of murder cases are cleared. (But the cops did prove Jussie Smollet beat himself up... that's the important thing.)

The problem in Chicago is democrat judges letting repeat gun offenders out of prison on Bond.....and giving them less than 3 years in prison for repeat violent gun offenses.....

Man fatally shot one victim, wounded another while free on recognizance bond and electronic monitoring, prosecutors say |

It’s been 18 months since Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart warned that he was “alarmed” by the number of accused gun offenders who were being released on their own recognizance, sometimes with electronic monitoring.

“This needs to get fixed quick,” Dart told the Sun-Times in Feb. 2018.

It hasn’t been fixed.

Yesterday, 18-year-old Antwane Lashley was in bond court, accused of shooting a man to death on Aug. 23. Prosecutors say he also shot and seriously wounded a woman at the same time. Lashley has been free on his own recognizance with electronic monitoring since prosecutors charged him with possessing a handgun illegally this spring.

Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle wasted no time criticizing Dart’s concerns last year.

“I believe it is our responsibility to keep these matters in context and not contribute to sensationalizing them,” Preckwinkle told Dart in a letter days later.

As recently as Friday, Preckwinkle called concerns about people committing violent crimes while free on affordable bail, a “fear tactic.” She has also defended easy bail conditions for gun possession. Some people who live in less-safe neighborhoods feel the need to carry guns for their own protection, she says.

A gun, freedom, then a murder
Around 7:30 p.m. on May 20th, cops in Humboldt Park saw Antwane Lashley walking quickly on the 3800 block of West Chicago. He saw police nearby and began running, holding his right pocket as he fled, a police spokesperson said last night.

Lashley took a handgun out of his pocket, threw it, and kept running, the spokesperson said. Officers caught him nearby while other cops retrieved the gun he allegedly threw.

Prosecutors charged Lashley with felony aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. He appeared in court the next afternoon and was set free on his own recognizance with an order to go onto electronic monitoring, according to court records.

Then, last Friday, Neal Sumrell and a woman were sitting in a car on the 4200 block of West Iowa in Humboldt Park. Around 8:15 p.m., someone walked up to their vehicle and opened fire. Sumrell, 34, was shot seven times in the upper body. He died. The woman tried to run away, police said. She was shot three times throughout her body, but managed to survive.

Lashley—on juvenile probation for aggravated battery causing great bodily harm—was arrested at his home Thursday evening, just one block from the murder scene. Police say he’s the gunman who killed Sumrell and injured the 28-year-old woman who tried to run away.

Prosecutors yesterday charged Lashley with first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder, and aggravated battery by discharging a firearm. Judge Mary Marubio ordered him held without bail.

“Victims deserve better,” said Anthony Guglielmi, the police department’s chief communications officer early Sunday. “We are going to continue to be the voice for those who have been silenced by gun violence.”

Not the first
Lashley is hardly the first person to be accused of killing or trying to kill someone while free on the county's affordable bail program. Among similar cases reported by CWBChicago:

In May 2018, Daryl Williams was charged with fatally shooting a man in the back of the head. He was free on a recognizance bond at the time while awaiting trial for allegedly possessing a stolen firearm the previous November.

In June of last year, Carnell Morris was charged with being an armed habitual criminal after police said they found a gun in his car. He posted a $1,000 bond. Six months later, while awaiting trial for the gun case, Morris was charged with attempted murder after he allegedly shot a 51-year-old man.

Just three months ago, repeat gun offender Antawan Smith was charged with murdering a 15-year-old. He was free on a $6,000 deposit bond while awaiting trial for allegedly being an armed habitual criminal.

Top cop laments violence as 66 shot, 5 fatally, over long Fourth of July weekend


Between last Wednesday and Friday, 42 people were charged with felony gun-related offenses, he said, but only 15 remain in custody.


That lack of accountability for gun offenders has damaged the Police Department’s relationship with the communities most beset by violence, Johnson said, making victims of crimes less likely to cooperate with officers.
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“It’s not about mass incarceration. It’s not about having quotas. But when somebody has a demonstrated track record of being a violent gun offender, that should say something to the judges who are making decisions about bail. They shouldn’t be out on the street,” Lightfoot said. “We can’t keep our communities safe if people just keep cycling through the system because what that says to them is, I can do whatever I want, I can carry whatever I want, I can shoot up a crowd and I’m going to be back on the street. How does that make sense? It doesn’t.”
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/criminal_justice_reform_comes_home_to_roost.html
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CWB Chicago: You Be The Judge: We give you the case details. You try to guess their bail amount.

McKay was sentenced to four years for robbery in 2008; two years for aggravated unlawful use of a weapon (firearm) in 2010; seven years for being a felon in possession of a weapon (firearm) in 2012; and three years for possession of fentanyl in 2016.
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For McKay, who has two gun convictions and a robbery conviction, Willis set bail at….$5,000. McKay will need to put down a 10% deposit of $500 to go free. Willis also ordered him to go on electronic monitoring if he is released.

Some details that Willis did not know:
• McKay’s 2008 robbery conviction involved an armed carjacking. Prosecutors reduced the charge to “ordinary” robbery as part of a plea deal.• In 2012, McKay’s second gun case also included allegations that he fired the weapon. Prosecutors dropped the weapon discharge count and seven other weapons charges in a plea deal.• The 2016 drug possession charge started as allegations of manufacture-delivery of fentanyl, but, again, prosecutors pleaded that down to possession.

 

[JoeB131]

Stop with the histrionics

The majority of people in this country have never been involved in an active shooter drill

I've had them at two past employers...

I also got to watch a "What to do if a crazy person starts shooting up this theater" message after Aurora.

I would say it ruined the movie for me, but it was "Star Trek: Into Darkness" So really, ruining that movie would have been redundant.

 

[2aguy]

Mass public shootings in 2018....

12.

Total killed...

93


Cars killed over 38,000

Here we go... the usual "Pools and dogs are more dangerous" thinking of parsing numbers and calling things what they aren't.

We had 300+ mass shootings in 2018.

There were 12....total 93 killed.

cars killed over 38,000 people.....

But mass public shootings get 24/7 news coverage giving you a chance to stampede gullible Americans into giving you power.

 

[Blues Man]

Yeah just ignore that 50% that the relationship is unknown

because they don't know who killed them...

This is another problem with your "lock em up" strategy. Right now, in Chicago, only 17% of murder cases are cleared. (But the cops did prove Jussie Smollet beat himself up... that's the important thing.)

You have a memory problem.

I have been saying all along we lock up the wrong people

You can't eat your cake and have it too

You want to be tough on guns but you don't want to lock people up for breaking gun laws

Prison space should be reserved for the worst offenders. Public order, petty theft, simple drug possession and other minor nonviolent crimes need to be addressed in a different manner.

But you have nothing to offer as far as suggestions you just argue against yourself