The best Russian bomber

[tony.osborne]

The link below provides a collection of photos, including some rare showing planes captured by the Germans with Finnish markings. Do you agree with the statement that the Petlyakov Pe-2 was the best light bomber of World War II? Visit the link, see the photos and give your opinion.


Aviação em Floripa: Petlyakov Pe-2


Best Regards.

 

[Sunni Man]

It looks like a copy of the German bf 110 ........

 

[Picaro]

The link below provides a collection of photos, including some rare showing planes captured by the Germans with Finnish markings. Do you agree with the statement that the Petlyakov Pe-2 was the best light bomber of World War II? Visit the link, see the photos and give your opinion.


Aviação em Floripa: Petlyakov Pe-2


Best Regards.

No way to tell if Russian planes were really any good or not, since the Allied bombing campaigns in Germany caused Hitler to strip the eastern front almost entirely of AA and Luftwaffe, ceding almost total air superiority to the Soviets. They never had any resistance worth mentioning re air power. I would say no under those circumstances. The Soviets could and did even use old biplanes for night bombing runs. One of their most famous female pilots flew one. She died a couple years ago, I believe.

 

[williepete]

Picaro brings up a good point. Each theater of operation required different "tools" to solve different problems.

The Pe-2 was certainly effective but the Iliuchin IL-2 was a better fit to the tactical conditions of the eastern front. So much so that Stalin personally gave the IL-2 production priority over all other Soviet aircraft. This fact alone shows what light bomber the Soviets thought was best for their situation.

The light bomber category covers single and twin engine bomber or what we now call attack aircraft. The "best" should be taken in context of the theater they operated in. On the western front, the P-47 and Typhoons excelled in crippling the German transportation system. In the Pacific, the humble Dauntless dive bomber sent vast tons of shipping to the bottom.

 

[waltky]

The best Russian bomber

Prob'ly was Rasputin...

... did Putin drop the first part...

... of his family's name?

 

[Picaro]

http://www.economist.com/news/obitu...mber-pilot-died-july-8th-aged-91-nadia-popova

Nadezhda (Nadia) Popova, night bomber pilot, died on July 8th, aged 91
Jul 20th 2013 | From the print edition

"This was also the young woman—she was 19 or 20 then—who could turn her aircraft over and dive full-throttle through raking German searchlights, swerving and dancing, acting as a decoy for a second plane that would glide in silently behind her to drop its payload of bombs. That done, the second plane would act as decoy while she glided in to drop bombs herself. She made 852 such sorties in the second world war as a pilot in the 588th Night Bomber Regiment, later named the 46th Guards in honour of its courage. Once, over Poland in 1944, she made 18 sorties in a single night. The aircraft were old two-seater biplanes, PO-2s, originally training planes, made of canvas and plywood with open cockpits. When it rained, water ran over the instruments; when the planes were shot at, shrapnel tore the wings to shreds. There was no radio and, to save weight, she never wore a parachute. If you were hit, that was it.

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Often she flew in pitch dark and freezing air. In an aircraft so frail, the wind could toss her over. Its swishing glide sounded, to the sleepless Germans, like a witch’s broomstick passing: so to them she was one of the Nachthexen, or Night Witches. To the Russian marines trapped on the beach at Malaya Zemlya, to whom she dropped food and medicine late in 1942, she sounded more like an angel. She had to fly so low that she heard their cheers. Later, she found 42 bullet holes in her plane.

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Instead of her beetle brooch she eventually wore on her smart dark suit the medal of a Hero of the Soviet Union, the Order of Friendship, the Order of Lenin and three Orders of the Patriotic War. With enormous pride she sported them, a beaming blonde among the men. She admitted she stood gazing at the night sky sometimes, wondering how she had ever managed to perform such feats up there. Well, came her down-to-earth answer, because you had to; and so you did."

So much for obsolescence; you use what you have; for most soldiers on the front, there was rarely a choice of 'The Best' over what one could get, so it's a moot issue for them most of the time, which is why I generally dislike arguments over what was 'The Best' re anything.

 

[williepete]

Well said Picaro! Bravo.

I've always admired the Night Witches and their PO-2s.

You go to war with what you've got. And what you've got was decided a long time ago before anyone knew what your war would need.

 

[Sunni Man]

Youtube has an 8 part Russian tv series called "Night Swallows" with english subtitles about these women bomber pilots during WWll

It's kinda melodramatic but in a way interesting. .......