The beauty of a carbon tax

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    The Christian Science Monitor – CSMonitor.com / Text

    The beauty of a carbon tax – and its exemption for the poor




    By Paul Boudreaux / January 10, 2013

    ...The policy arguments for a carbon tax are compelling. Economists have convinced the environmental community that market-oriented systems, as opposed to inflexible commands, are the best way to regulate. The simplest and most efficient way to change people’s behavior is to tax them; everyone is then encouraged to look for efficient ways to avoid the taxed activity...
    ...A carbon tax would hit big polluters, most notably electrical power producers. They would be encouraged to eschew carbon-laden coal for relatively cleaner natural gas, or even cleaner sources of energy. But they would not be mandated to do so; each producer would make judgments based on its own criteria and supply structures...
    ...A simple exemption, however, could make the tax burden much lighter for poorer Americans, while at the same time encouraging even greater conservation. The idea is simple: Each household would be exempted from the tax for a modest amount of electricity per month or year; the exemption would be most effective if the system also imposed only minimal usage charges for electricity below the cutoff. The system would recognize almost all households need to use some electricity, but that consumption beyond the minimum would be taxed...[/quote]

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    More assumptions based on terribly flawed computer models. There is nothing beautiful about taxing a harmless trace atmospheric gas.
     
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    Simply, and typically, incorrect once again.
     
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    Not going to happen........100% certainty.

    Redistricting by Republican governors since 2010 makes it virtually impossible for the left to take back the House any time before 2020. Even center left representatives in the House arent going to support slamming constituents with mega-electricity bills.

    Most of the environmental nutters have the political IQ of a small soap dish.
     
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    "mega-electricity bills?"

    what are you muttering to yourself about now?
     
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    Power companies are already eschewing "carbon-laden coal for relatively cleaner natural gas".
     
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    What you cant avoid is the increase in doing business, and thus the passed on cost increase to consumers. Or maybe people can eat in resturants in the dark.
     
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    Democrats love any kind of a tax. They find beauty in taxes.
     
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    Carbon tax would speed and enhance that shift, as well as gradually pushing the shift away from natural gas to renewables and alternatives, whose carbon footprint would drop tremendously as we shift away from using high carbon fuels to manufacture and produce the alternative and renewable generation and distribution systems. Likewise, many, if not most, carbon tax proposals utilize a graduated implementaion system so that the tax amount increases stepwise over a period of time (generally decades). So while a carbon tax may start out at say $50/ton of coal in 2015, in 2025 that would raise to $65/ton, $80/ton in 2035, and end up at $100/ton in 2050. The purpose of pigouvian taxes is not to raise revenue, it is to discourage the purchase of the item or service upon which the tax is levied. Over the life of the tax all revenues generated from the taxes on carbon carbon emissions would be directly returned to the taxed economy through an equivilant reduction in other existing taxes and through direct payments to taxpayers. A portion of these taxes may also be used to buy back and retire national debt or purchase treasury bonds that will be used to reduce future taxes as the impact of the carbon tax results in the reduced tax revenues because people and industries stop using the taxed carbon emitters.
     
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    Utter horsecrap. CO2 is the basic building block of ALL life on this planet. The more the better for plants which means more O2 for those of us who use that, and of course that also helps the base of the food chain. Only an ignorant, anti-science, political hack could look at that and think otherwise.
     
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