The Beast Revelation

[MarcATL]

Thank you, Michael. I am basing my reply off of Matthew 24. I believe Jesus warned us about five times in that one chapter not to be deceived. The rapture teaching has got to be one of the most deceptive teachings inside the church today. While Christians are looking up and believing their redemption draweth nigh - via rapture before the persecution comes - the enemy is emboldening himself for the day he is unleashed to do his worst.

That hour is swiftly approaching and while I hear many Christians say Jesus must be coming anytime now I must disagree. In the book of Acts no one was raptured out of their situation. In China, North Korea, Pakistan & elsewhere Christians are not being raptured out of their tribulations but are being kept in the midst of them. Why are American Christians "special"? Persecution has a purifying effect and God knows American Christians need to be preparing to endure rather than preparing to claim the next cadillac or house. Jesus had no place to lay his head. Has anyone gotten ahold of that one yet? There is no preaching of holiness, repentance or obedience from the pulpits because the messengers have all been compromised along the way.

Jesus is coming back for a spotless bride - not one who has been cavorting with the world and believing mans words over Gods Word. I do not believe there is going to be a rapture. I do not find that teaching in the bible.

PREEACH Jeremiah!

The reason why the rapture belief is so popular and prominent in Christiandom today is because it's so comforting. It's comforting to think that as a Christian, you will never have anything to worry about ever again, because God will take all your problems away and save you from this crazy world by removing you safely to heaven whilst leaving the rest of the sinners and heathens behind to face some serious toublous times.

It's a massive DISTORTION of Scripture, which teaches that as Christians, it's quite the opposite. As Christians we choose a life of servitude. Scripture states that we must each take up our cross and walk, just as Jesus did. Who is our Example.

Yet, many have this comforting view of Christianity, it's based on worldly comfort.

This is no different to the false belief that when we die we go directly to heaven. It's comforting for a person to believe that distortion.

However, like you rightly said, it's not biblical.

Good post.

 

[Moonglow]

Don't you just love eschatology?

 

[Vox]

Don't you just love eschatology?

which part of it?

 

[Vox]

there is not going to be any rapture or any special tribulation in the future.

It has already happened ( Tribulation, I mean). Rapture is a fantasy of the last 180 years and has no connection to the Scripture whatsoever.

 

[theword]

The Beast Revelation

This letter is dedicated to all Christians.

The following letter is a summary of Revelation 13. Its purpose is to show the method used in finding the conclusions which have been stated. Nothing new has been added from my previous letters. It is more of a compilation of them all. This writing is the same material in different words. The Bible uses this same method of explanation. There are four Gospels. In each you see a different view of the same material. This can be beneficial because the meaning becomes more exact. Although, if this is a first time reader, then this will all be news to you. With that in mind, here we go.

The first thing that should be addressed when doing any study of Bible prophecy is what questions do I intend to answer. Some of these questions can seem a little simplistic, but their answers are much more complicated. In my studies there were only a few questions that I saw as needing an answer. My questions were very simple. First, who is this individual who is identified by the number 666? Second, who is the false prophet and how does he make the whole world worship the beast whose number is 666. Another question has to do with these same individuals. Could these two individuals be the same person, or for that matter Satan himself? Where is Satan during all this? That last question is very important. It actually goes straight to the answer of all the questions. Finally, when would someone expect to see these individuals on the Earth? Literally, what time frame should I see them? Those are the questions. The answers are much more involved.

This narrative will attempt to show how the answers are figured out. These answers can be seen from events that happen in the nightly news. This leads me to a key, which most of us know, but most of us forget. The Bible is a history book. Some events have happened, while some are waiting to happen. It is the ones that have not happened that we are most concerned with. Here is another key. By the way, these keys I speak of are keys to understanding. The Lord spoke in parables. The reason he gave was that it was for some to know the mysteries of God, while it was for some to know not. In hearing, they do not hear. In seeing, they do not see. I compare it to telling the truth, while hiding it at the same time. Many of the parables that the Lord spoke he immediately gave an answer to. He showed how he used certain symbols and words to describe subjects and then gave their meanings. Now for the punch line. The Lord also spoke in parables that he did not identify. These parables go straight to the hidden meaning of these end times. Another key is word substitution. An example of this is a pretty well-known item from Revelation. This word substitution deals with Revelation 13:1. The beast has seven heads and ten horns. In Revelation 17 those heads and horns are defined. The heads are identified as mountains, while the horns are identified as kings. This changes the whole picture of what the beast is symbolically to what it is literally. Now Rev.13:1 can be read as follows with just the items discussed thus far. And I saw a beast rise up out of the sea having seven mountains and ten kings. That is a simple and easy word substitution. Know that this will happen many times throughout the Bible.

Now, getting back to the questions. The question is, where is Satan? If this question can be answered, you will have eliminated some others. Some prophecy teachers believe that Satan is the beast, or that Satan is the false prophet, which is misleading and puts a stumbling block square in the road to a proper interpretation. I almost always get this question. How can you know who the beast is when he cannot be revealed? 2nd Thess. Chapter 2 states that he cannot be revealed, until something is removed first. Most scholars have this part right. That is a picture of the Rapture. What they have wrong is that Satan and the beast are not the same individual. Satan cannot be revealed until after the rapture, but he is not the beast. Therefore, I can identify the beast and his false prophet. People say prove it. So I did. I told them how to understand using the keys that I have mentioned. Revelation 13 is a parable, but God is not giving the definition, or the explanation. This one is for us to figure out. Ok, so where is Satan? In the book of Job, we get a view of Satan's abilities. In one scene, he is discussing with God about Job. Question, where is God? He is in heaven. Also, in his conversation with God Satan is talking as if he knows and has seen Job. God declares that he can do whatever he wants to Job, but he was not allowed to kill him. Now we know something else about Satan. He also has access to the Earth, and can affect peoples lives. So, it appears that Satan can be everywhere he wants to be, on Earth or in heaven. We know Satan and his angels will be cast out of heaven as per Revelation 12. This would further the idea that he is now in heaven. We also see Satan one other time, when he tempted Christ during his time on Earth. It says that he was taken to the wilderness to be tempted of Satan? Most people, and rightly so, have thought the wilderness to be a place on Earth, but this is a parable I believe. The Lord was in the wilderness and was tempted by Satan, but the wilderness is in heaven. This parable is read in Isaiah 35. It is the wilderness and the solitary place where the redeemed of the Lord walk. So, this last item being the most hard to prove, suffice it to say, that when Rev.12 says Satan will be cast out, he must be there in heaven to be cast out. Alright, now we can answer a couple questions. One, Satan is himself, and he is in heaven. Therefore, he is not the beast or the false prophet. These three work together, but each has his own identity.

Now to dissect Revelation 13. As I have already stated, Revelation 13 is a word substitution parable. The seven heads are seven mountains and the ten horns are ten kings. Ok, we know from this description that the beast as described is a group of possibly ten countries. This brings me to another point. There are three definitions for the beast in Revelation 13. The first is a group of countries rising up out of the sea. The second is in Rev.13:11 and is a beast with two horns (kings). Remember horns are kings as per Rev. 17. Finally, there is a beast who is identified by the number 666. It is this last beast that causes all to recieve a mark and that no man can buy and sell save he who has the mark, his number, or his name. There are three items here. Nowhere does it say that the mark is the number 666. This might have been a good guess 20 yrs. ago , but it is pretty hard to believe. Imagine people running around with a mark of 666 on their right hands. It sounds like a cartoon, but this is what the prophecy teachers want you to believe. Ok, another problem that sounds like a cartoon is the interpretation of the word "all." They want you to believe that no man could buy or sell if they did not worship the beast and take his mark. Interpreting the word "all" to mean everyone in the world. This is not the case. For one, we know that the beast is made up of only possibly ten countries. Everyone in this world lives in roughly 190 countries. I don't think we could possibly mean everyone. How about, all of those people concerned with the mark. Also, how do you cause all people concerned to receive a mark, and why? The most obvious way to mark everyone is at the voting booth. All people, rich and poor, small and great, or free and bond are potential voters. So, Mahmoud Abbas was elected president of the Palestinian Authority, and in the process all voters received an indelible ink mark on their right hands. This mark was to prevent double voting and corruption in the election. Ok, we have a mark. It is not 666. At this point he fits the part, but not completely. Still, there is no ready identification of 666 concerning him. This election was in January 2005.

Back to Rev.13. We have seven mountains and ten kings. Prophecy teachers want us to believe that a city with seven mountains is the seat of the antichrist and he rules with ten nations. Their logical conclusion was the Europe Union and the Vatican. This started the revived Roman empire theory. This theory has been around since the reformation. It is hard to believe this charade has gone on so long. Teachers are still preaching the Revived Roman Empire. This theory had some validity before the twentieth century and now has to be eliminated. None of these teachers could have predicted the fall of the Ottoman Empire and its division into so many separate sovereign nations. Back to our word substitution. There is an interesting item here concerning the word mountains in scripture. The word mountains can have two meanings. It can be either a mountain range, or a nation. This is the hardest part of this whole exercise, trying to figure out what mountains are describing. Teachers will have you believe it is a city with seven mountains. In actual fact, mountains here are referring to nations. This also pertains to the head wound. The wound was not a literal head wound at all, but was a nation that was wounded. The beast's head or nation was wounded and was healed. This is the Palestinian Authority after the beginning of the Oslo Accords. The land that Israel possessed was now being given back to the Palestinians and the beast's nation is being healed. Ok, so now I have seven nations and ten kings, Rev.13:1. Why do I have three more kings than nations? It seems I have a king for each nation, but three left over. In Daniel in says the beast subdued three kings. These three kings don't necessarily have to be from different countries. It seems so, but is not expressly mentioned. It is another parable. The three kings who were subdued by the beast were Israeli Prime Ministers. These three Prime Ministers all served during the seven years of the Oslo Accords and were voted out of office because of terror perpetrated during Yasser Arafat's rule. Now, I am down to seven nations. These seven nations will wage war. I can easily see seven nations that will wage war here very soon; Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iran and the Palestinian Authority or Iraq, and there opponent Israel. This is exactly the same beast that is presented in Rev.17:10, just in a slightly different appearance. There are seven kings, five are fallen. This means five kings were defeated in war. Israel is referred to the "one that is," and the one that came later is the Palestinian Authority. This is a description of Israel's war for Independence. Literally, this was the beast being born. The war in 1967 is the beast rising up out of the sea in Rev.13:1. It was the unresolved issues of this conflict that resulted in the Oslo Accords of 1993. This seven year peace treaty was confirmed by Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat.

Now, there is another beast in Rev.13:11. This beast has two horns or kings. This is a picture of the Palestinian Authority after the elections of January 2006. This is when Hamas ran in the elections and won a majority in parliament. Now the P.A. was a country with two kings. Abbas was the President and Ismail Haniyeh was the Prime Minister. Here is where the problem with money came about. Western Nations did not want to donate money to a known terrorist organization so looked for a way they could still fund Abbas's P.A., but not let any money get to Hamas. This is when the number 666 identified an individual. The temporary international mechanism was adopted on June 16, 2006. This program allowed Western Nations to donate funds directly to Abbas, while bypassing Hamas. If you were a member of Fatah, or on Abbas's payroll you got paid. This is how the people were allowed to buy and sell. They received salaries, whereas before the mechanism, they had no way of getting paid from the Govenment. Hamas did not receive salaries. Also, Hamas did not receive the mark of the beast. They boycotted the elections for President in Jan. 2005.
It is more obvious who is being talked about the closer you get to the end.

In conclusion, to my three beast definitions. Mahmoud Abbas fits all three definitions. He was a member of the P.A. when it was formed. He took over from Yasser Arafat after his death. He was one of the two kings of the second beast in Rev.13:11. Lastly, he is the one identified by the number 666, which could have been Arafat had he lived.

Now, concerning the the false prophet. The following four verses below all refer to the false prophet, Ismail Haniyeh.

Rev.13:11- and I beheld another beast coming up out of the Earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev.13:12- And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein, to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev.13:13- "And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the Earth in the sight of men".
Rev.13:15- And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast, should be killed.

Hamas exercised all the power of the first beast (Abbas's P.A.) because they were now an equal partner in the Government. Also, the leader of Hamas caused them to worship or honor the first beast because Hamas would not honor the first beast. The first beast was the PA without Hamas as a member. The image of the beast is what the Government of Mahmoud Abbas represented. Verse 12 does not mention the image yet, we are just informed that the false prophet caused them to worship the first beast. Verse 14 and 15 gives the details of how that worshipping or honor was to commence. An image was created of the first beast that he (the false prophet) caused to be honored. This image of the beast is three items; the recognition of Israel, the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements, and a renunciation of terror.

The last question I think that needs addressed is how do you know the timing is right? Meaning, there have been so many translations, how do you know that this one is correct? This is a question I always get asked. The answer, in my mind, is sort of a mix between two different prophecies. The first is the seven day prophecy as recorded in Genesis. It is a similtude between this and the amount of recorded time that has already happened on Earth. In the book of Peter, God says one day to him is as a thousand years. If that idea is applied to the Genesis creation, everyday that God created something one thousand years passed. Finally, on the last day he rested from his work, and his rest was one thousand years or one of God's days. This was one full week or 7000 years. After God's rest he started his work again, and he created Adam. Starting with Adam, it was approximately 4000 years to the time of Christ. Also, we know that Christ was here roughly 2000 years ago. If God was to be consistant with his one week schedule, then we could expect his day of rest to fall somewhere after the year two thousand. 4000 plus 2000 is six days and on the seventh he rested for one thousand years. This is not an exact estimate, but it can put you in the right ballpark when searching for the correct timing of Revelation. This is the estimate. The next item is more exact. Daniel 9:27 says that he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Many in Hebrew is Rab. This was a covenant confirmed with Yitzhak Rabin. It was the beginning of land for peace, or the Oslo Accords. When you see this agreement happen you should be aware that this prophecy will last seven years. There is only one problem with this item. Prior to it happening, everyone thought that the end of the seventh year of the agreement God would return and begin his rest. Well, that did not happen. The reason was a logical misinterpretation. It just mentions that this agreement must occur along with the prophecies mentioned, not that they would all happen and end on the last day of the seventh year. This has thrown everyone watching offtrack for a time. Although, this was not such a terrible mistake if the watcher could see the right answer and get his, or her perspective back. When you have these two items coinciding at the expected time, then you know Revelation can be interpreted with accuracy. The events should start happening, as they have, as I have recorded in this letter.

May God bless all who read this letter.

Michae1

Thank you, Michael. I am basing my reply off of Matthew 24. I believe Jesus warned us about five times in that one chapter not to be deceived. The rapture teaching has got to be one of the most deceptive teachings inside the church today. While Christians are looking up and believing their redemption draweth nigh - via rapture before the persecution comes - the enemy is emboldening himself for the day he is unleashed to do his worst.

That hour is swiftly approaching and while I hear many Christians say Jesus must be coming anytime now I must disagree. In the book of Acts no one was raptured out of their situation. In China, North Korea, Pakistan & elsewhere Christians are not being raptured out of their tribulations but are being kept in the midst of them. Why are American Christians "special"? Persecution has a purifying effect and God knows American Christians need to be preparing to endure rather than preparing to claim the next cadillac or house. Jesus had no place to lay his head. Has anyone gotten ahold of that one yet? There is no preaching of holiness, repentance or obedience from the pulpits because the messengers have all been compromised along the way.

Jesus is coming back for a spotless bride - not one who has been cavorting with the world and believing mans words over Gods Word. I do not believe there is going to be a rapture. I do not find that teaching in the bible.

Our spirit is raptured, not our flesh which is of this earth. We saints come to tell anyone who listens to us that our spirit is in God but our flesh perishes during this age. Every flesh that is still walking on this earth on the "Lord's Day" will perish but man's spirit will go on to the next age to receive new flesh to experience life in.

 

[theword]

Thank you, Michael. I am basing my reply off of Matthew 24. I believe Jesus warned us about five times in that one chapter not to be deceived. The rapture teaching has got to be one of the most deceptive teachings inside the church today. While Christians are looking up and believing their redemption draweth nigh - via rapture before the persecution comes - the enemy is emboldening himself for the day he is unleashed to do his worst.

That hour is swiftly approaching and while I hear many Christians say Jesus must be coming anytime now I must disagree. In the book of Acts no one was raptured out of their situation. In China, North Korea, Pakistan & elsewhere Christians are not being raptured out of their tribulations but are being kept in the midst of them. Why are American Christians "special"? Persecution has a purifying effect and God knows American Christians need to be preparing to endure rather than preparing to claim the next cadillac or house. Jesus had no place to lay his head. Has anyone gotten ahold of that one yet? There is no preaching of holiness, repentance or obedience from the pulpits because the messengers have all been compromised along the way.

Jesus is coming back for a spotless bride - not one who has been cavorting with the world and believing mans words over Gods Word. I do not believe there is going to be a rapture. I do not find that teaching in the bible.

PREEACH Jeremiah!

The reason why the rapture belief is so popular and prominent in Christiandom today is because it's so comforting. It's comforting to think that as a Christian, you will never have anything to worry about ever again, because God will take all your problems away and save you from this crazy world by removing you safely to heaven whilst leaving the rest of the sinners and heathens behind to face some serious toublous times.

It's a massive DISTORTION of Scripture, which teaches that as Christians, it's quite the opposite. As Christians we choose a life of servitude. Scripture states that we must each take up our cross and walk, just as Jesus did. Who is our Example.

Yet, many have this comforting view of Christianity, it's based on worldly comfort.

This is no different to the false belief that when we die we go directly to heaven. It's comforting for a person to believe that distortion.

However, like you rightly said, it's not biblical.

Good post.

We're already in heaven ( spirit of man ), which is our created invisible existence. The things we see ( flesh and the things of this world ) are only illusions that will go away when our flesh perishes. Then we'll awaken in new flesh that will never be used to deceive us again.

 

[kjw47]

there is not going to be any rapture or any special tribulation in the future.

It has already happened ( Tribulation, I mean). Rapture is a fantasy of the last 180 years and has no connection to the Scripture whatsoever.

Your scenario is impossible about the trib occurring already. --Harmageddon comes right after the trib--then Gods kingdom takes control forever-Daniel 12:4--- every kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) of this earth, will be mislead to stand in opposition to God at Harmageddon, by 3 inspired expressions. Rev 16)--- because they are being mislead now as well. Like this--2 Corinthians 11:12-15

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Never ceases to amaze me why people waste time reading 3rd party commentaries on Scripture. Wanna understand Scripture try reading it. Don't read someone else's analysis of it, it's not going to be any better than your's.

 

[Chuckt]

Never ceases to amaze me why people waste time reading 3rd party commentaries on Scripture. Wanna understand Scripture try reading it. Don't read someone else's analysis of it, it's not going to be any better than your's.

Cause maybe God will speak to someone else who is more interested in Him.

Do you have a Bible? How would it look like if you translated it? That is why you need a Biblical education.

 

[Chuckt]

Thank you, Michael. I am basing my reply off of Matthew 24. I believe Jesus warned us about five times in that one chapter not to be deceived. The rapture teaching has got to be one of the most deceptive teachings inside the church today. While Christians are looking up and believing their redemption draweth nigh - via rapture before the persecution comes - the enemy is emboldening himself for the day he is unleashed to do his worst.

That hour is swiftly approaching and while I hear many Christians say Jesus must be coming anytime now I must disagree. In the book of Acts no one was raptured out of their situation. In China, North Korea, Pakistan & elsewhere Christians are not being raptured out of their tribulations but are being kept in the midst of them. Why are American Christians "special"? Persecution has a purifying effect and God knows American Christians need to be preparing to endure rather than preparing to claim the next cadillac or house. Jesus had no place to lay his head. Has anyone gotten ahold of that one yet? There is no preaching of holiness, repentance or obedience from the pulpits because the messengers have all been compromised along the way.

Jesus is coming back for a spotless bride - not one who has been cavorting with the world and believing mans words over Gods Word. I do not believe there is going to be a rapture. I do not find that teaching in the bible.

PREEACH Jeremiah!

The reason why the rapture belief is so popular and prominent in Christiandom today is because it's so comforting. It's comforting to think that as a Christian, you will never have anything to worry about ever again, because God will take all your problems away and save you from this crazy world by removing you safely to heaven whilst leaving the rest of the sinners and heathens behind to face some serious toublous times.

It's a massive DISTORTION of Scripture, which teaches that as Christians, it's quite the opposite. As Christians we choose a life of servitude. Scripture states that we must each take up our cross and walk, just as Jesus did. Who is our Example.

Yet, many have this comforting view of Christianity, it's based on worldly comfort.

This is no different to the false belief that when we die we go directly to heaven. It's comforting for a person to believe that distortion.

However, like you rightly said, it's not biblical.

Good post.

To me, your view doesn't show me you believe.

Genesis 18:23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

Genesis 18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

I believe millions of Muslim children as well as millions of children all over the world will be raptured because they can't tell the difference between right and wrong:

Jonah 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

Children that don't know the difference between their left hand and their right hand can't repent so it is wrong to punish them.

1 Thessalonians 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

You can't turn to God without turning from something. When you believe in God, you have to believe in His nature and turn from your understanding.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

 

[Vox]

there is not going to be any rapture or any special tribulation in the future.

It has already happened ( Tribulation, I mean). Rapture is a fantasy of the last 180 years and has no connection to the Scripture whatsoever.

Your scenario is impossible about the trib occurring already. --Harmageddon comes right after the trib--then Gods kingdom takes control forever-Daniel 12:4--- every kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) of this earth, will be mislead to stand in opposition to God at Harmageddon, by 3 inspired expressions. Rev 16)--- because they are being mislead now as well. Like this--2 Corinthians 11:12-15

Tribulation occurred in the first 2 centuries AD.

oh, and there is not going to be any kingdom before the Second Coming. And the time of Second Coming is not known to anybody but The Lord Almighty Himself.
No millennium

 

[Toro]

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[The Irish Ram]

Michael, Lucifer was highly regarded for some time in Heaven. When he rebelled he was shot out of Heaven so quickly, he looked like a lightening bolt. Until Christ, Lucifer could enter Heaven only with God's permission. And did. They discussed Job for instance.
But when Christ sprinkled His blood on the the mercy seat of God, He cleansed Heaven and Satan no longer has access. In fact when Satan is dealt with it won't be in Heaven, it will be right down here in front of Kings and Nations.

The beast can't be Nero because there are other conditions in conjunction with the anti-christ that have to be fulfilled. One that Israel would no longer be trodden down by Gentiles, and also that the Gospel would be heard worldwide. And he comes in the timeline of a revived Roman empire, not the original one.

Vox, I'm curious about your post. If the Trib has come and gone, what is it that brings Christ back? The trib begins with an Israeli peace treaty. And ends with the battle at Megido. Neither have occurred yet. And we haven't reached the pinnacle that Matthew described:

Matthew 24:21-22
For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

And if there isn't a first resurrection how can there be a second? The first being those who return and rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years and the second at the end of the 1,000 year period.
Who are the first that are resurrected in this scripture?

Revelation 20:6 “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”

Then there is this in Thes.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”

We go up to meet Him in the air before He comes back down here, and we come back with Him and 1,000 years after that the 2nd resurrection takes place. Those souls will be on the docket at The White Throne Judgment.

Some sure fire ways to recognize the anti-Christ:
He will survive a mortal < unsurvivable wound.
And he will be the one that brokers the peace treaty in which Israel gives away God's land.
And he will defile the Jewish Temple that they are preparing to build.

 

[theword]

Does anyone agree with my conclusions?

If you had the Truth, you wouldn't have to ask anyone if they agree with you. You would know for sure you weren't lying as God uses your flesh to testify to His Word.

That's one way of looking at it, just not the way that I look at it. I think if this is what you derive from my question, you have very little intuition.

I have much more than intuition. I have the knowledge to know who you are that you don't know. You think the image that you see in a mirror is your created existence but I know who you really are.

 

[kjw47]

Never ceases to amaze me why people waste time reading 3rd party commentaries on Scripture. Wanna understand Scripture try reading it. Don't read someone else's analysis of it, it's not going to be any better than your's.

Jesus' teachers know truths.
The whole reason there are 32,000 different religions claiming to be Christian is because someone tried to find truths for themselves and failed. So now a disunified mass of confusion has popped up( trinity religions)-- their teachings are false.

there is one group that teaches Jesus' truths--once one learns Jesus' truths its easy to see who they are.

 

[Chuckt]

Never ceases to amaze me why people waste time reading 3rd party commentaries on Scripture. Wanna understand Scripture try reading it. Don't read someone else's analysis of it, it's not going to be any better than your's.

Jesus' teachers know truths.
The whole reason there are 32,000 different religions claiming to be Christian is because someone tried to find truths for themselves and failed. So now a disunified mass of confusion has popped up( trinity religions)-- their teachings are false.

there is one group that teaches Jesus' truths--once one learns Jesus' truths its easy to see who they are.

No, we are all one.

 

[Avatar4321]

Never ceases to amaze me why people waste time reading 3rd party commentaries on Scripture. Wanna understand Scripture try reading it. Don't read someone else's analysis of it, it's not going to be any better than your's.

Jesus' teachers know truths.
The whole reason there are 32,000 different religions claiming to be Christian is because someone tried to find truths for themselves and failed. So now a disunified mass of confusion has popped up( trinity religions)-- their teachings are false.

there is one group that teaches Jesus' truths--once one learns Jesus' truths its easy to see who they are.

No, we are all one.

As much as I wish that was true, it's not.

 

[Flopper]

Does anyone agree with my conclusions?

If you had the Truth, you wouldn't have to ask anyone if they agree with you. You would know for sure you weren't lying as God uses your flesh to testify to His Word.

That's one way of looking at it, just not the way that I look at it. I think if this is what you derive from my question, you have very little intuition.

I read your post. I won't offer an opinion but rather a suggestion. Summarize your post and put a link to the source. Most people will not take the time to read something this long plus each time someone replies, your entire post is repeated.

 

[michael777]

I read your post. I won't offer an opinion but rather a suggestion. Summarize your post and put a link to the source. Most people will not take the time to read something this long plus each time someone replies, your entire post is repeated.

Thanks for taking the time.

 

[Chuckt]

Jesus' teachers know truths.
The whole reason there are 32,000 different religions claiming to be Christian is because someone tried to find truths for themselves and failed. So now a disunified mass of confusion has popped up( trinity religions)-- their teachings are false.

there is one group that teaches Jesus' truths--once one learns Jesus' truths its easy to see who they are.

No, we are all one.

As much as I wish that was true, it's not.

I've been in the Assembly of God church, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Baptist, Non-Denominational, Salvation Army and Calvary Chapel.

Church historian Lightfoot said by the end of the 1st Century there was already Congregational, Episcopal and Presbyterian forms of church government and they heard right from the Apostles.

We are one.