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Well, let me ask this: What if an inner city police department said "We are tired of all the gang violence in the area of 1st Street and Main. SO......from now on, every single person who drives or walks in a 4 mile radius of 1st and Main will be stopped and searched for weapons."
That would be a 4th amendment violation. You can't stop every single person and search them based on the notion that past crimes have occurred here, and we know if unchecked future ones likely will also, thus we're stopping everyone.
Thats basically what the gov't is doing with the TSA. And it is indeed a 4th amendment violation.
Disagree? Read 4th amendment case law.
A person is protected against unlawful search or seizure without a warrant, or without probable cause that the individual has committed or is about to commit a crime.
So, Joe Blow plane passenger enters a terminal. No warrant to search him exists. And the TSA agent has absolutely no probable cause that Joe has committed or is about to commit a crime. Thus, the search is a violation of the 4th Amendment.
But Americans aren't fighting very hard for their rights now. So....there you have it.
Well said. Thank you. Yes the Government's power is not limitless. While the Airlines may be private companies,the TSA is not. There are limits on what the Government can do to its Citizens. This stuff will be challenged in court and the Government will lose. I'm very confident of that.
Do the wingnuts have a complaint about the govt that they think doesn't violate the Constitution? Or do they just not realize that something can be both constitutional and foolish?
Well said. Thank you. Yes the Government's power is not limitless. While the Airlines may be private companies,the TSA is not. There are limits on what the Government can do to its Citizens. This stuff will be challenged in court and the Government will lose. I'm very confident of that.
Do the wingnuts have a complaint about the govt that they think doesn't violate the Constitution? Or do they just not realize that something can be both constitutional and foolish?
"Wingnut" is a very very over-used term. You're not necessarily a "Wingnut" if you're against TSA thugs publicly groping children on suspicion of Terrorism. Think about that a bit.
Do the wingnuts have a complaint about the govt that they think doesn't violate the Constitution? Or do they just not realize that something can be both constitutional and foolish?
"Wingnut" is a very very over-used term. You're not necessarily a "Wingnut" if you're against TSA thugs publicly groping children on suspicion of Terrorism. Think about that a bit.
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
Do the wingnuts have a complaint about the govt that they think doesn't violate the Constitution? Or do they just not realize that something can be both constitutional and foolish?
"Wingnut" is a very very over-used term. You're not necessarily a "Wingnut" if you're against TSA thugs publicly groping children on suspicion of Terrorism. Think about that a bit.
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
"Wingnut" is a very very over-used term. You're not necessarily a "Wingnut" if you're against TSA thugs publicly groping children on suspicion of Terrorism. Think about that a bit.
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
What is foolish is to think the world is safe, good thing we did not have a pussy in office.
Thank god we destroyed Saddam, I can think of no other leader in the world who needed to be eliminated as much.
Of course killing Christians in Kosovo is okay, Killing Christian children in a train on a bridge in Serbia is the proper way to win a war.
I wonder when our troops will leave Kosovo.
Only a moron did not support the Iraq attack. Only a fool suggests killing tyrants is foolish.
"Wingnut" is a very very over-used term. You're not necessarily a "Wingnut" if you're against TSA thugs publicly groping children on suspicion of Terrorism. Think about that a bit.
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
So Yea or Nay?
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
So Yea or Nay?
Yea or Nay what?
So Yea or Nay?
Yea or Nay what?
On TSA public gropings?
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
What is foolish is to think the world is safe, good thing we did not have a pussy in office.
Thank god we destroyed Saddam, I can think of no other leader in the world who needed to be eliminated as much.
Of course killing Christians in Kosovo is okay, Killing Christian children in a train on a bridge in Serbia is the proper way to win a war.
I wonder when our troops will leave Kosovo.
Only a moron did not support the Iraq attack. Only a fool suggests killing tyrants is foolish.
IOW, I was right...wingnuts don't realize that something can be both constitutional and foolish
Enjoy your trip to the Gestapo err uh i mean Airport. That's your Government's Holiday gift to you. Enjoy your flight.
Do the wingnuts have a complaint about the govt that they think doesn't violate the Constitution? Or do they just not realize that something can be both constitutional and foolish?
"Wingnut" is a very very over-used term. You're not necessarily a "Wingnut" if you're against TSA thugs publicly groping children on suspicion of Terrorism. Think about that a bit.
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
What is foolish is to think the world is safe, good thing we did not have a pussy in office.
Thank god we destroyed Saddam, I can think of no other leader in the world who needed to be eliminated as much.
Of course killing Christians in Kosovo is okay, Killing Christian children in a train on a bridge in Serbia is the proper way to win a war.
I wonder when our troops will leave Kosovo.
Only a moron did not support the Iraq attack. Only a fool suggests killing tyrants is foolish.
IOW, I was right...wingnuts don't realize that something can be both constitutional and foolish
Your only right if you can prove what you claim.
A wonderful example of a fool, you are.
"Wingnut" is a very very over-used term. You're not necessarily a "Wingnut" if you're against TSA thugs publicly groping children on suspicion of Terrorism. Think about that a bit.
Didn't say I was for or against anything. I said it possible for something to be both allowed by the constitution, and foolish to do. Like the invasion of Iraq. It was constitutional, and a foolish thing to do.
You might want to think about that
And here we have it, the Constitution is foolish, thats right, as the Marxist believe and as the Marxist needs to teach you, its foolish to follow the Constitution.
