the attack on saudi oil

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    Nope. It was corruption that killed Venezuela.
     
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    I see planes all the time.

    Low flying missiles , not so much.

    So who had the information & technology to avoid our missile defense systems. Or are you saying our systems don't work.
     
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    1. The vast vast majority of people are not working two jobs. In fact it's barely 5% of the work force at best. And while there may be more people working two jobs, than 80-Hour CEOs in absolute numbers, that is not true as a percentage of CEOs to the percentage of workers. The vast vast majority of CEOs are putting in 50+ hours a week. You specifically said 80-hour, and I wager that's the extreme... but the overwhelming majority of CEOs are putting in more than 50. Easily.

    2. No, they CAN go and find a better job. Look, I'm not saying anything that I myself have not done. Look at me right now.... I have NO DEGREE. I have NO CERTIFICATIONS. I have NO TRADE SKILLS. I have no education whatsoever. I don't know anyone. I have no network of people to get a job from. I have nothing. Nothing at all.

    I have gone and gotten a better job, numerous times. Numerous. I have doubled my wage in the last 5 years.
    It's not hard either. You just have to work well.

    By work well, I mean showing up on time. Not most days, but every day. Work during work time. Don't do this 20 minute long 15-minute breaks, and several smoke breaks between. Get your stuff done. Consistently. Do whatever you are asked to do. Don't say this BS-line "Not my job". And lastly, get along with people. Show up with a smile. Act like you want to be there, even if you don't.

    You do those things, and that alone will move you up the income ladder. And then you have dozens of ways you can educate yourself. Online course you can take at home, instead of watching TV. Get a job at Walmart, and use their tuition reimbursement program to start taking classes. I know lady who did just that. I know a guy that was working for $10/hour, and was taking one class a semester, paid his way through. Yeah, it was several years to get his degree, but he's got it now.

    There are endless ways to advance in this country. Endless. 1-800-GOT-JUNK was started by a guy who saved up $900, and bought a pickup truck. Stop giving me your endless left-wing excuses, and go make your life better. And don't sit here and tell people they can't succeed in life, when I am telling them that they can. That makes YOU the ass. Left-wingers are the real asses in this world, because they keep everyone poor, by convincing them they can't succeed.

    3. Since when in a great economy does the deficit skyrocket & the Fed needs to bail it out to avoid a recession.
    What does this ^^^^^^^^^^ have to do with this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?

    The status of the economy, has NOTHING to do with deficits, debt, or the Fed.

    Michael Jackson made by most estimates, over a Billion dollars in his life.

    At the time of his death, he was almost bankrupt.
    By your logic we should ask

    "Since when did MJ have a great career if he had deficits, debt, and almost bankrupt?"

    Having a great career and income, has NOTHING to do with deficits, debt, and bankruptcy (read bailouts).

    In the 1920s, there was a massive recession. Government income went from $6.6 Billion, down to $3.6 Billion. Government income fell by almost half.
    However, between Harding and Coolidge, government spending was cut. The result was the US government went from a deficit in 1919, to a Billion dollar surplus by 1924. Understand they had an income of $3 Billion, and were banking almost a Billion.

    How much deficits and debt, and the need of a bailout, has nothing to do with the status of the economy. It has to do with spend. Debt and deficits and bailouts are EXCLUSIVELY tied to spending. You have a major recession, and not need a bailout, and have a surplus.

    Ironically, I have lived this out in my own life. About 10 years ago, I got laid off from my job. I found another job that paid less than the job I had. Not only did I not go into debt, but I also paid down some prior debts, and by the end of the year had money left over.

    You just spend less. You CAN spend less. The government's debt and deficits are due to spending. We need to cut entitlements, reduce grants and subsidies, cut green energy programs, and reduce government waste.

    The economy could be doing twice as good as it is now, and we'd still have deficits. Social Security is going to go bust, no matter what the economy does. Medicare is going to go bust, no matter what the economy does.

    We need to fix those things.
     
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    Hmmm... no. It was socialism. Corruption is an excuse by left-wingers to blame anything but their failed ideology.

    Perfect example, the Soviet Union. When Stalin was in power, by nearly every measure he was a true believer, and fully followed his ideals.

    That didn't change the fact that yanking away farm land, eliminating the managers of industry, resulted in a massive crash of the economy under Stalin. This is why even under Stalin, they still had capitalist based farms that the government didn't confiscate, because those capitalist farms were keeping the country alive. The communal farms were epic failures, because shockingly taking land away from wealthy people (who happen to know how to farm which is why they are wealthy and run a farm), and giving it to "the people" who don't know how to farm, results in crop failure.

    Corruption is the result of the economic crash, which is the result of socialism.

    Corruption didn't cause land to end up in the hands of poor people in Venezuela. It was in fact, government adhering to it's ideals of taking from the rich, and giving to the poor. Corruption didn't cause all the companies to shut down and leave the country. It was price controls that made operating there unprofitable.

    Corruption was the result of the people in government, realizing they were losing everything, and decided to get whatever they could, and leave the country with it, while they still had time. They realized things are getting bad, and all their investments were tanking, so they started siphoning money to offshore accounts, because they knew this wasn't going to last.

    Corruption is the result of a tanking economy.
    The tanking economy was the result of socialism. Socialism never works. Never has. Never will.
     
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